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Post by neilmac on Dec 10, 2023 2:54:15 GMT
Well it was only a matter of time before I did this - these are my favourite stamps. There are only 8 stamps but there are so many variations, not to mention the flimsies themselves. I have a few but am trying my best to build a stronger collection. Any help appreciated!! For those new to Pigeon Post I aim to write a brief history in separate posts over a few weeks complete with as many images as I can. The posts will help me in constructing my exhibition dialogue when I'm ready to show. Thanks for reading and any questions or ideas/thoughts/corrections much appreciated. There must be some folk on here who know a lot more than I.
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Post by neilmac on Dec 10, 2023 3:29:44 GMT
Great Barrier Island: A Very Brief History. Great Barrier Island, known as Aotea in the Māori language, is a remote island located off the north-eastern coast of New Zealand's North Island. It is 107km from the Port of Auckland to Tryphena. Its history is a tapestry of indigenous Māori culture, European exploration and settlement, economic endeavours such as whaling and mining, military significance during World War II, and a modern focus on conservation and sustainable tourism. Great Barrier Island, also referred to as "Aotea" in the Māori language, stands as an enchanting natural haven in New Zealand's Hauraki Gulf. Nestled off the north-eastern coast of the North Island, this island has a rich and diverse history that spans millennia. From the early Māori settlers to European explorers, whalers, gold prospectors, and military strategists, Great Barrier Island has witnessed a multitude of influences that have shaped its cultural and environmental landscape. Great Barrier Island has been inhabited by Māori people for over a thousand years. These indigenous settlers established thriving communities that centred around fishing, farming, and gathering resources from the island's abundant natural environment. The island bears the marks of their presence in the form of archaeological sites and artifacts that serve as a testament to their enduring heritage. European exploration of Great Barrier Island commenced in the late 18th century, with Captain James Cook being one of the notable explorers to visit its shores. Cook named the island "Great Barrier" due to its imposing size and the natural barrier it presented to his ship's passage. European settlement began in earnest in the mid-19th century, and industries such as farming, logging, and mining were established. The town of Tryphena in the south of the island became one of the early European settlements. In 1896 the population was The island's economy was driven by whaling and timber industries, with the kauri tree, a native species, being particularly prized for shipbuilding and construction. Copper was discovered at Miners Head in 1841 and by 1842 workings were established. In the 1890s gold and silver were discovered and Great Barrier Island experienced a brief gold rush, attracting prospectors in search of precious metal. However, the gold deposits were less substantial than anticipated, leading to a short-lived boom. None-the-less it was these economic activities that created the opportunity for improved communications. The timber industry also brought great changes to the island. The native forests were largely intact until the 1840s and the arrival of the Europeans, but were logged with increasing intensity from the mid 19th to the mid 20th century. A few areas of original kauri forest survived, and a large part of the remainder has since regenerated. The remains of the last whaling station to be established in New Zealand can also be seen at Whangaparapara. Whaling began in New Zealand waters in the 1790s. The peak year for whaling was 1839, with 150 American whaling ships and 50 from other nations recorded in and around New Zealand waters. It was these economic activities that created the opportunity for an improved communications structure. In the late 1890s Great Barrier was serviced from Auckland by a weekly steamer that dropped passengers, mail and supplies and uplifted same heading back to Auckland. Outside of the Steamer there was no way of knowing what was happening off the island, or for those in Auckland and beyond, what was happening on the Island.
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Post by neilmac on Dec 10, 2023 4:01:49 GMT
S.S. Wairarapa The lack of communications was emphasised in very unfortunate circumstances. The SS Wairarapa was a vessel of the Union Steam Ship Company of New Zealand. Launched in 1882, it was a prominent ship, known for its regular passenger and cargo service between Sydney, Australia, and New Zealand. The ship played a crucial role in connecting the two countries and transporting passengers, cargo, and mail. On the night of October 28, 1894, the SS Wairarapa was enroute from Sydney to Auckland. The ship carried approximately 230 passengers and crew members, along with a significant cargo. As the ship neared the northern coast of Great Barrier Island, it encountered rough seas, strong currents, and limited visibility due to heavy rain and fog. Despite the challenging conditions, Captain John Francis Morley decided to maintain full speed, hoping to reach Auckland on schedule. It was also noted later that just the previous week the ship had set a new 'record' for the journey (interesting theme with the Titanic?). Tragically, the ship's course was misjudged, and it struck the jagged rocks of Miners Head on the northern tip of Great Barrier Island at around 2:30 a.m. on October 29, 1894. The impact was catastrophic, tearing a massive hole in the hull of the SS Wairarapa. Passengers and crew were thrown into chaos as the ship began to take on water rapidly. In the midst of the confusion, lifeboats were launched, but the rough seas and treacherous conditions made it extremely challenging to evacuate the ship safely. The residents of Great Barrier Island quickly mobilized to aid the survivors. Local Māori, including the Ngāti Rehua tribe, played a pivotal role in rescue efforts, displaying remarkable courage and compassion. Despite their heroic efforts, the disaster resulted in significant loss of life. Of the approximately 230 people on board, it is estimated that over 130 perished in the wreck, including women, children, and crew members. And nobody outside of Great Barrier knew. There was no communication means. Fortunately there was another small steamer in the area, the S.S. Argyle. She was able to collect the survivors and reached Auckland at 3 a.m. on 1 November - three days after the event - and no-one had a clue. The wreck of the SS Wairarapa remains a haunting reminder of the perils of maritime travel in the late 19th century. It prompted inquiries and investigations into ship safety and navigation practices. Additionally, the tragedy served as a catalyst for improvements in coastal navigation and led to the establishment of lighthouses and navigational aids in the region. But the accident had two philatelic legacies. The first was the mail on the S.S. Wairarapa. The S.S. Argyle returned the next week with divers and although difficult, they recovered over 100 bags of mail. Each letter saved from the wreck was stamped "Saved from the Wreck of the Wairarapa in either blue or a violet blue colour. These covers are now very collectible. The second Philatelic legacy of even greater significance was the birth of the Great Barrier Pigeon Service.
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Post by neilmac on Dec 10, 2023 4:33:27 GMT
Pigeon Post - The first message The S.S. Wairarapa was part of the Northern Steamship Company. In January 1896, more than a year after the tragedy, the company hosted a memorial journey to the location of the wreck of the S.S. Wairarapa. Family, friends and dignitaries abounded. This was big news and The New Zealand Herald knew it had to get the story published first. They approached one Walter Fricker, pigeon fancier and racer, and a little bird called 'Ariel was selected for the job, and on 29 January 1896, Ariel was set loose with the five page report attached. What the reporter may not have realised is that this was the precursor for the Great Barrier Pigeon Service.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Dec 10, 2023 5:32:05 GMT
neilmac, I haven't enjoyed my morning coffee so much in a long while. Another TSF thread to be proud of. Londonbus1
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Post by DK on Dec 10, 2023 7:00:45 GMT
I am going to enjoy this Neil. A sad & tragic maritime disaster in New Zealand's history.
I decided to investigate this a little further as although I had some knowledge of the event, thru' philately, I wasn't aware of all the circumstances of the event.
Some snippets from 'Papers Past' for reading over your coffee to follow :
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Post by DK on Dec 10, 2023 7:09:02 GMT
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Post by neilmac on Dec 10, 2023 19:12:15 GMT
I am going to enjoy this Neil. A sad & tragic maritime disaster in New Zealand's history. I decided to investigate this a little further as although I had some knowledge of the event, thru' philately, I wasn't aware of all the circumstances of the event. Some snippets from 'Papers Past' for reading over your coffee to follow : Dave Dave, That is superb. Love your work. I hadn't thought to dig in to the wreck as I was so focused on the philately. Brilliant idea. I will absolutely borrow some of this. Great photos - I couldn't fond such good quality ones. What's your source? Cheers, Neilmac
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Post by DK on Dec 10, 2023 22:45:06 GMT
Dave, That is superb. Love your work. I hadn't thought to dig in to the wreck as I was so focused on the philately. Brilliant idea. I will absolutely borrow some of this. Great photos - I couldn't fond such good quality ones. What's your source? Cheers, Neilmac Hi Neil Just a Bing search on the internet using the keywords "S.S Wairarapa wreck" - gives us this: S.S Wairarapa wreckThen just select "images" from the result. Plenty there to select from :-) Now, back to your story re the origins of the Great Barrier Pigeongram Service by the 2 rival companies ..... I do not have any items related to this, my money has gone mainly into Chalons + I don't know enough about them to be able to confidently purchase genuine examples - which can be a little pricey. But I would love to get a few examples to be able to have a small piece of this history. Looking forward to your showing of your collection. Dave
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Post by neilmac on Dec 11, 2023 7:58:48 GMT
A Formal Pigeon Post ServiceIt is interesting to note that Walter Fricker was - well - no spring chicken . Walter Fricker was born in Somerset, England and came to New Zealand in 1863 and he had raced his pigeons in NZ for over 25 years already. But not only was he racing them, but he was already sending messages by pigeon - something that he had been doing since 1874! The message with the NZ Herald article may have been the first from Great Barrier Island, but it was more than 20 years behind his first known message. Fricker had been sending messages from Waitekauri (Waihi gold fields) to Thames for some time, for mining men and others needing to communicate quickly about developments in the area. The service was informal and irregular, but Great Barrier Island were not the first pigeongrams in NZ by more than two decades. Nonetheless, the message from Barrier to Auckland with the NZ Herald article coincided with increased economic activity on the Island and created a communication channel that inhabitants of the Island desired (the S.S. Wairarapa confirmed the need!), so opportunity knocked. And that opportunity was confirmed by Joseph Smales. A stockbroker and mining investor, Smales negotiated with Fricker to provide a regular communication link between Great Barrier and Auckland. This service opened in February 1897 (although no-one knows the exact date of the first message) and operated from Okupu. Pigeons were sent regularly by the weekly steamer to Fricker’s agent on Great Barrier, a Miss Springall. Messages were 2/- a piece paid in advance. As yet, there were no stamps. Payment was cash up front. The Opposition is bornNo one really knows why, but the relationship between Fricker and Smales was relatively short lived. Many suggest there might have been some financial issues between the two, but no one knows for sure. What is known is the relationship went South, and not by pigeon ;o). Smales however was sold on the idea and so engaged with a Mr. J.E. Parkin, a pigeon fancier and at the time the caretaker of the Auckland Chambers at 31 High Street. But Fricker was also sold on the idea and so continued his service. A competitive environment ensued, and things were about to get interesting. On a fateful day the S.S. Iona was steaming to Great Barrier Island and had as part of its cargo, pigeons from both Pigeon Post services. As the seminal book by Reg Walker (1968) explains, Mr Parkin had asked one of the crew to release his birds as they neared Great Barrier Island for a training run. The crew member however, released the birds owned by Mr Fricker, who then experienced his birds returning with no messages. It gets worse. Mr Parkins birds are mistaken as Mr Fricker's and so forwarded to his agent Miss Sprigall. Miss Springall attached messages to the birds and sent them home - to Mr. Parkin! All hell broke loose. To keep it simple - Fricker thought he'd been set up. He was not happy. Parkin realised what had happened and sent a message to Miss Springall to release the remainder of his birds. Miss Springall now realised what had occurred. We can't be sure but Fricker thought she might be involved and didn't communicate with her again. Parkin jumped at the chance and offered Miss Springall the opportunity to be his agent. With no communication from Fricker - she accepted. The relationship between the two services never seemed to recover - or did it?
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Post by neilmac on Dec 13, 2023 6:10:35 GMT
The Next Chapter - Samuel Holden HowieAs a consequence of the mix up and losing his agent Miss Springall, Fricker moved his agency from Okupu to Oroville in April 1897, 3 miles away over an arduous track. He established an agency with a Mr. McMillan, a Canadian who was a storekeeper in the town. The town was the current head of mining operations and as such Fricker was able to get support from three mining companies to get his business established. Fricker also asked the Government for support, but the Premier and the Post Office weren't happy to support what they saw as a competitive situation. Parkin and the Service also requested support but the government weren't interested. In April 1898 Parkin decided to pull the pin. He had picked up some additional responsibilities and decided his time was best spent doing other things. It may be that the service wasn't paying a dividend. Miss Springall contacted a Samuel Holden Howie, at the time an 18 year old law clerk whose hobby was racing pigeons. Long story short - he jumped at the chance. He quickly upped the ante. In October 1898 a Mr Henry Bolitho, a keen philatelist, approach Howie about producing a stamp. Howie was supportive. In his seminal work, 'The Great Barrier Island 1898-1899 Pigeon Post Stamps' Reg Walker recounts the agreed business proposal: - A 1/- stamp would be more popular than a 1/6 stamp
- So reduce the cost of the stamp to match the face value of the stamp
- Mr Bolitho subsidise Mr Howie 3d for every bird arriving with a message bearing a stamp.
- Mr Bolitho was responsible for producing the stamps.
The First Airmail Stamp of the World
Mr Bolitho worked with the Observer Printing Works in Auckland to develop and produce the first stamps. The first stamps were available in October and the first known use was November 1898. (earlier beliefs of an October stamped flimsy have not been confirmed). Of interest, the bird at the centre of this design is a swallow, not a pigeon! The stamps were printed in sheets of 18 in a three by six format. A single die was created from three impressions, and so the sheet had to be run through the machine six times, thus leading to different alignment of the stamps on different sheets.
The two sheet images above from the Te Papa Museum collection. The only order submitted was for 100 sheets, so 1800 stamps were produced but it is estimated that only 300 stamps were used and the other 1500 sold to collectors and dealers. As an interesting aside, when the stamps first appeared on the market in the UK their genuineness was in doubt and so the editor of the London Philatelist wrote to the NZ Postal Department who replied that the stamps had never been used for any postal purpose! Got o love the bureaucrats! However further research uncovered the story and interest in the stamps grew.
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Post by neilmac on Dec 13, 2023 6:52:00 GMT
VP1 ForgeriesThe interest in the stamps was from more than just collectors. Forgers were very quick to respond. There is an encyclopaedia of detail on the difference between the genuine article and the two known forgeries, but in simple terms: Genuine: - Deep blue to indigo
- Gum distinct brownish tinge
- perfs 12 1/2
- Cross bar of H in SHILLING is straight
- There is a short oblique line before the 'G" of GREAT.
Forgery 1: - The cross bar of H in SHILLING too high
- 'ING' of SHILLING misplaced up on left
- There is no oblique line before G of GREAT
- No stop after POST
- Perfs 12 1/2
- etc.
Forgery 2: - Oblique before G
- ONF bottom of E missing
- Perfs 11 1/2 and clean cut
- White wove paper smoother than original
- Can be found in sheets of four
- Often found with cancellation in violet, but these stamps were cancelled in blue or black!
- etc.
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Post by neilmac on Dec 13, 2023 23:45:33 GMT
VP 1 Types As mentioned the die was used to create three impressions for moulds, and each of these were filed with a stereotype metal. The three were combined to create a printing plate. If the forgeries are somewhat confusing, you can compare your stamp to the three stereos and it should match one of them almost perfectly. If it doesn't then it is a forgery. There were no other printings. Stereo 1 - Key feature is dent near bottom of right frameline Stereo 2 - Key feature is it doesn't have the flaws seen in the other two. Note this example with the BLUE postmark. Any VP1 stamp off piece with a violet stamp is very likely a forgery. There is one on piece that is not but the rest are very suspect. Stereo 3 - Has four breaks in the bottom frameline, especially the one on the farthest right about a sixth of the way a long.
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Post by neilmac on Dec 14, 2023 1:19:55 GMT
VP 1 FlimsiesVP1 flimsies are quite rare. Their current catalogue value is the same as the 'Pigeongram' overprint and the 'Marotiri' overprint. Because the majority of the stamps were let go to collectors, an intentional strategy I believe to repay Mr Bolitho's invested interest, they are quite common in mint. Many keen collectors have a forged used copy and have little idea. I once bought a small collection from Spink & Son which had a used and mint VP1. The used copy was a forgery with the violet stamp, while the mint copy was authentic. I believe that while a violet stamp was used (only one on piece VP1 was ever found with violet) the forgers used only violet on their work. Back to the flimsies - I don't have a VP1 in my collection (yet, but if you have a spare lying around let me know ), they are hard to find. However below are two images. One from the famous Oded Eliashar collection auctioned off by Seigel in 2002 (wish I was there). Click here to go to the pdf version of the auction. api.siegelauctions.com/file/download?ID=2002%2F854%2F854.pdf&FileName=Sale_854_Catalog&Download=false The second image below is unique. It is the first flimsy (with or without a stamp) to be flown in the other direction; Auckland to Great Barrier Island. Reg Walker tells a great story in his book about a pigeon that had arrived at the loft in Auckland from the Barrier, but because it was not seen to straight away it started to peck at the flimsy it was carrying. When the handler finally got to it, the pigeon had ruined the flimsy. The handler took the bird out of the loft and gave it a light slap (bad pidgy!) and threw it into the air. Much to the surprise of the handler when the bird finally came back it had another flimsy from Barrier! It had flown back from whence it had come, and the agent not thinking anything of it, tied another message to its leg and released it again. This set in play the plan to fly both ways, and the flimsy below the first.
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Post by neilmac on Dec 14, 2023 1:47:49 GMT
The return of Parkin and VP2Samuel Holden Howie was a young fella still, and not as resourced as others. He started having trouble with his birds, and he started losing a few too. Hard work this flimsy carrying. He sought assistance from Parkin who had a solid loft of birds. The first batch of stamps were also running low (1500 of the 1800 had been given to collectors and dealers after all). Parkin was temporarily back and a new design was prepared. An engraver by the name of R. Richardson did the work (not to be confused with the printer J. Richardson of Chalon fame!). A lot more elaborate than VP1, although for some reason the Swallow survived on the design. This sheet was printed with six types/stereos and 200 sheets of 24 (6 by 4) were produced giving a total of 4800. Wilson & Horton the printers of the NZ Herald did the job. The paper was gray and a thick soft version and a harder thinner version are known. Neither had a watermark. As all the sheets appeared with no bottom margin there were theories about possible larger sheet sizes, but interestingly it seems its always the bottom margin that is missing - never the top - so bigger sheets seem unlikely but you never know! One of the things I like to do is to reconstruct the sheets from single copies. Reg Walker's book has some great descriptions on how to identify each stamp, with his own approach and the approach of a Mr. Sefi who studied the Pigeon Post stamps in detail from a very early stage. To identify the six types is relatively easy as we have images of the complete sheets with the six types running from left to right across the sheet. Below the six types and Reg Walker's identification process using the bottom centre ornament description. To be fair they can be quite hard to ascertain and in some cases I struggle to tell. A good quality image of the whole sheet is useful so you can compare against the real deal. Nonetheless here they are. Type 1 - Ornament has very small tail and bottom looks like a mountain valley Type 2 - Tail touches the line below it and slants to left; the bottom line looks like two small autos travelling away from each other on a highway! Type 3 - Bulge at bottom; tail slants slightly to left and touches bottom, which appears like a canyon. Type 4 - Very short blunt heavy tail; white spot in centre very small. Type 5 - Tail is very curved slanting to left; end of ornament above it is well rounded. Type 6 - Very short tail, almost like a dot. There are breaks to the right and left.
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Post by neilmac on Dec 14, 2023 2:23:40 GMT
VP2 Flimsies and PostmarksThe first day of issue was reportedly the 1 March 1899. However even if the stamps might have been received 2 March 1899 on the steamer that day, there was no recorded use until 16 March 1899. However none of the earlier flimsies survived (not that anyone knows) and the earliest surviving flimsy with VP2 is 1 April 1899. One of the interesting aspects of VP2 (and beyond) was the different postage cancellations used. There were many and some still being identified. Below one of my own flimsies with postmark '2'. This flimsy dated 7 July is actually written in the hand of Samuel Holden Howie himself. The flimsy below is the earliest date known on actual flimsy. This one resides at Te Papa Museum of New Zealand. This VP2 has a cancellation not recorded in Reg Walker's book. No. 6? This showing the emergence of the Marotiri Mining Syndicate who are about to have a large influence on Howie's business and the stamps themselves. And this cancellation with Howie's name front and centre is also not recorded in the book
Flimsy with Postmark #3
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Post by DK on Dec 14, 2023 2:31:06 GMT
Great work there Neil.
I am going to make a PDF out of this thread eventually. Hopefully by the end of this lesson I will then be confident enough to buy some Pigeongram items produced by the 2 Great Barrier companies.
And not make any 'dud' purchases of forgeries unknowingly :-)
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Post by neilmac on Dec 14, 2023 2:51:21 GMT
Great work there Neil. I am going to make a PDF out of this thread eventually. Hopefully by the end of this lesson I will then be confident enough to buy some Pigeongram items produced by the 2 Great Barrier companies. And not make any 'dud' purchases of forgeries unknowingly :-) Dave Buy a copy of Reg Walker's book. Old but fantastic piece of work - and quite readily available for about $30.
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Post by DK on Dec 14, 2023 3:18:37 GMT
I shall do that Neil. Thanks I see that the book was published in 1968! I have a copy of the book " A History of the Post Office in New Zealand" by Howard Robinson - and on pages 171-172 he mentions the Great Barrier Pigeon Service : Dave
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Post by neilmac on Dec 14, 2023 4:49:40 GMT
The Post and Telegraph Department and the OverprintBoth the 'Service' and the 'Agency' continued to seek financial assistance from the Government. DK's post above is a great segue into this next chapter, because for some reason the Department were not interested in supporting either venture. Both ventures hoped to be the one that the Department would support (and not the other!) but the Department stayed neutral, or maybe avoided any accountability is another way of looking at it . But by staying neutral they also took no steps to close the channel down - yet. But the bureaucrats were disconnected from reality. When approached by philatelists from London seeking confirmation the stamps were legit the Department informed them that the stamps had been produced but that Howie had been asked not to use them and to their best knowledge they had never been used! Given they'd almost run out of VP1 and were now producing VP2 it might be suggested they were mistaken . It was apparently an offence under the Post Office Act and any offender was liable for punishment. The VP1 stamps were at this time selling in London for 3/6, not a bad profit for providing no service but a stamp. Mr Biss was the chief Postmaster in Auckland, and he set out to get to the bottom of it. During his meetings with Fricker, Bolitho and Howie he found out the stamps were being used and that the 'Agency' was also about to produce a stamp using the Auckland Star (the rival paper to the Herald!). Negotiations went into overdrive, with the Pigeon carriers offering to carry Government messages for free, place a national penny stamp on each message so the government would not be deprived of any revenue, and Howie suggesting he could get rid of the word 'POST' from his stamps. Howie promptly sent a copy of the VP2 overprinted and asked for it to be approved. The Department would not approve, and the Premier Gray asked Biss to communicate the message and return the stamps. The stamps were not retained - they were sent put into a Department file briefly, before being added to the G.P.O.'s stamp collection!! The negotiations were to no avail - Howie must withdraw the stamps or his Service would be shut down. Don't forget Howie is only 19 at this stage - and he refused to comply - thank god - otherwise a very rich chapter in NZ philately may have been lost! He dug his heels in and was willing to contest the decision in a court of law. Well, as often happens in the world of Government, court cases were not the best publicity. The Post and Telegraph acquiesced on condition the words SPECIAL POST were removed. Fricker was caught up in all this too - he had a vested interest. He tried to back-door Howie and submitted his design and references from key business investors of Great Barrier Island to the powers in Wellington. The Department gave the same ineffectual response to him. Nonetheless they survived, and Howie produced his third stamp, VP2 overprinted with 'Pigeongram' becoming VP3. It was officially released on 7 July 1899. And below one of my flimsy's. This one is the earliest known use of the VP3 on piece and is dated the day after the first day of issue on 8 July. I don't believe this will ever be superseded (it might be) but my belief lies in the fact that I have two other flimsies dated 7 July 1899 (what a coincidence eh?!) that used the previous stamp, VP2. One of those shown written in the hand of Howie himself in a previous post on this thread. Anyway - enjoy!
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neilmac
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What I collect: NZ - especially FFQ, Pigeongrams and Postage Dues
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Post by neilmac on Dec 15, 2023 3:00:22 GMT
The Agency Stamps and the very confusing identification of Pigeongram stamps catalogue numbers! The relationship between the two Pigeon Post services was still very combative, or maybe competitive is a better word, and I don't use competitive as a constructive term. Fricker was still very active and decided to follow suit with an issue of stamps. But he also decided to up the ante and compete on price. He halved the price of the Great Barrier Island to Auckland to 6d and retained the 1/- cost for Auckland to Great Barrier. For this he developed two stamps accordingly. But these actions must have had a bearing on the profitability of both businesses. One might get more business with the cheaper price, but would make less. The other would have less business but make a little more per transaction. Either way you look at it, not very smart business - but that's what a competitive mindset does - clouds rational thinking. Back to the stamps. Although the Agency stamps were issued as the 4th and 5th stamps respectively they are known as VP7 and VP8. It must have been convenient for stamp collectors to think of the Original Services stamps as one cluster (VP1-6) and the Agencies as another (VP7-8). It must also have compounded the view that the Original Service was in fact, the original. But was it. You could argue that it was as Fricker who had set it up and flown the first flimsies. But when he left the business to establish another, was it the business he left that kept the honour of first or Fricker himself? That he had moved on and the business passed to Parkin and then Howie gave the impression the Agency was second to establish. You could go either way. Nonetheless Howie with Bolitho's assistance had issued the first stamps so they come first in the catalogue. Fricker's stamps though are known as VP7 and VP8 but were actually the 4th and 5th stamps produced and were on sale on 7 July 1899, just four days after the Services overprint (VP3) was issued on 7 July. It gets even more confusing with the catalogue numbers, because the subsequent Marotiri overprint (VP5) was used from the Copper mines the day before the 'Pigeon Gram' stamp (VP4) of the Original Service was issued. The Marotiri red (VP6) was the last to be issued. Whatever. Fricker engaged a well known artist, a Mr. Wrigg of Maori War fame. He had won the New Zealand Cross, our then equivalent of the Victoria Cross (although that is a story in itself - controversy surrounds his award but that's not for us to deal with). He was no doubt a talented artist. He designed the stamps with a pigeon (finally!) flying over buildings). The design had been used before on certificates issued by the Auckland Flying Club of which Parkin had been secretary! Got to love Fricker's sense of humour. Given Richard Pearse* had yet to fly the first powered plane down Canterbury way we can conclude that this club was a pigeon flying club! It was rumoured that Richard Seddon (known as King Dick - a beloved Premier of NZ) had suggested the triangular shape, which were then lithographed by the Brett Publishing Company who published the Auckland Star. They were supposed to be printed at 3/4 their design size as it was thought they were too big - but the instruction was not followed and so we got these beauties below. These bottom two images show full sheets as printed. 20 stamps in the 6d sheet (10,000 stamps in 500 sheets) and 10 stamps in the 1/- sheet (5,000 stamps in 250 sheets). Now that both Pigeongram services had stamps, historic flimsies were abounding! Yay. * Richard William Pearse (3 December 1877 – 29 July 1953) was a New Zealand farmer and inventor who performed pioneering aviation experiments. Witnesses interviewed many years afterward describe observing Pearse flying and landing a powered heavier-than-air machine on 31 March 1903, nine months before the Wright brothers flew. Thought I'd throw that in here for our American mates
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neilmac
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Thanks for having me - glad to be here. Looking forward to learning more in 2024! Cheers!
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What I collect: NZ - especially FFQ, Pigeongrams and Postage Dues
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Post by neilmac on Dec 15, 2023 3:38:52 GMT
The Agency FlimsiesThe Agency flimsies are gorgeous. I know you're not allowed to have favourite children, but Fricker was the man who started it all with that Pigeongram sent by the NZ Herald journalist at the memorial trip to visit the wreck of the S.S. Wairarapa. There is something alluring also about the triangular stamps. And these stamps have a pigeon on them rather than a swallow. Interesting that the 'Services' flimsies are worth more, but that's simply because they are rarer and harder to find. Why? Because they were the first movers on the stamp front and so had to deal with the challenges that brought, but were also willing to experiment and support new initiatives such as Marotiri. So they had to adapt and ended up producing 6 stamps to the Agencies 2. Nonetheless the Agencies stamps and flimsies are just as alluring to me as the far more expensive overprints and Marotiri red. Here's some agency flimsies and part flimsies from my collection.
Note the postmark. It's just a date and it's a 6d stamp as that was the rate from Great Barrier to Auckland. But the postmark is different from any I've seen (I won't call it unique, but...). Any insights from others welcome. Note the specially printed flimsy above with the "Special Service from Government House Grounds in aid of Veterans' Home Funds". Not all government agencies were anti the Pigeon services it would seem. The above stamp is the stamp on the flimsy.
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