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Post by rod222 on Dec 1, 2015 4:48:02 GMT
"Pizza Wheel" Postal Savings Bank Cancels.  |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 4, 2015 6:02:33 GMT
1928 Newspaper Stamps opt "Journaux Dagbladen 1928" Steiner page 57 CV $63 / $30  1929 opt "Journaux Dagbladen" Steiner Pages 58-59 CV $77 / $30   |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 4, 2015 22:42:35 GMT
1939 Belgian Military Parcel Post. Steiner page 55  Postage Dues 1870 Steiner Page 53 "Numerals Redrawn" CV $240 / $100 Very difficult to identify without existing examples. I find looking for the thick outline to the Lion, and the floral device (near the Lion's front foot) touches the "TE BETALEN" Frame, but not on the 1895 issues   |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 5, 2015 0:53:24 GMT
Not often seen. 1945 Sc# Q268 Lovely Lathework on the stamp selvedge. (and a fingerprint) Spoorwegen : English : Spoor = Track of an animal. Spoorwegen = Track Wagon. |
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Post by jaysee on Dec 5, 2015 1:25:00 GMT
Spoorwegen just means Railway(s).
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Post by rod222 on Dec 5, 2015 1:30:18 GMT
Spoorwegen just means Railway(s). I had always thought "Chemins de Fer" related to that? Fer = Ferrous = Iron "Chemins de fer" = Paths of Iron. Spoorwegen I assumed to be the Locomotive. |
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Post by stoltzpup on Dec 5, 2015 1:36:18 GMT
Spoorwegen just means Railway(s). I had always thought "Chemins de Fer" related to that? Fer = Ferrous = Iron "Chemins de fer" = Paths of Iron. Spoorwegen I assumed to be the Locomotive. Dutch spoorwegen = track (spoor) and way (wegen) |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 5, 2015 1:47:03 GMT
Thanks guys and gals, for clearing that up. I have assumed that for so long, it'll be hard to change  I am not one for controversy, I like a peaceful life, but any members interested in Belgium Railway Parcel Stamps : Stamps or Cinderellas ? Form your own opinion here. alphabetilately.org/TOC/Railway-Mail.html#MAAS |
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Post by jaysee on Dec 5, 2015 1:49:42 GMT
In this context the French Chemins de Fer is equivalent to the Dutch Spoorwegen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 3:48:12 GMT
The story behind the stamp
This is from a complete set I sold. On many occasions I posted them and never found what they were (until I spoke to the railway expert at the Belgian Philatelic Society). They used to be in Michel & have been sold on auctions - you can see them here - LINK
They generally sell for 5x or more than the perf issues Can you fill in the blanks? - the answer will be posted in a few days As for being stamps or cinderellas - they have been listed as stamps for a long time and that's good enough for me BTW an interesting venture is to collect stamps from all the routes and stops
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Post by rod222 on Dec 9, 2015 4:39:50 GMT
@falshung Interesting, especially as they have been removed from Michel? (supposedly listed in the "Officiele Catalogus" but I am failing to locate them) What about these? Counterfeits?  FYI Semi Postal Forgeries.  |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 9, 2015 5:08:32 GMT
@falshung Rail Routes? did you paste in error? This is the one I work to. (One needs to download and expand)  |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 10, 2015 9:16:49 GMT
Parcel Post and Railway Stamps 1879  Forgeries (P14x14)    |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 12:43:02 GMT
The story behind the stamp These imperforates are sometimes thought to be reprints, proofs, remainders. Forgeries they are not! According to the Belgian Philatelic Society there are 2 possibilities and the above ones are not viable. 1. The workers at the printing plant were severely overdue on wages and took it upon themselves to print & sell imperforate sheets. This is a low probability explanation 2. The workers abandoned the plant as the Germans advanced (WWI) and the Germans confiscated the printed sheets and sold them to dealers. This appears to be the more plausible explanation.
Edit: for note belowBelgium VIP imperforates are well known and would command a very high premium. These generally pre-date the start of that procedure and sell for much lower values. The Belgian expert on railway issues had researched these stamps and was of the stated opinions The story of the plant abandonment in Antwerp on 1914 is very similar. This resulted in the well known Albert & Merode forgeries
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Post by AirmailEd on Dec 10, 2015 18:26:13 GMT
The story behind the stampThese imperforates are sometimes thought to be reprints, proofs, remainders. Forgeries they are not! According to the Belgian Philatelic Society there are 2 possibilities and the above ones are not viable. 1. The workers at the printing plant were severely overdue on wages and took it upon themselves to print & sell imperforate sheets. This is a low probability explanation 2. The workers abandoned the plant as the Germans advanced (WWI) and the Germans confiscated the printed sheets and sold them to dealers. This appears to be the more plausible explanation. I don't know a thing about railway stamps. However, imperforate varieties of early Belgian airmails exist. Here's a likely explanation I found online: "Belgium has provided the philatelic world with some of the most seldom seen specialized material. For most 20th century issues and almost all from 1930, imperforates have been prepared in the original colours and distributed only to high government officials. Stamps up to 1950 were sold gummed or ungummed, as issued, sometimes with a script Specimen overprint. After 1950, all Belgium imperforates were issued ungummed with an individual number printed on the reverse of each stamp. Each of these imperforates is then unique. The Belgian post issued only 300 imperforates as gifts to VIP's. The Belgian King receives a block of 10, high-ranking ministers a block of 4 and the rest a single stamp. Philatelic magazines and catalogues highlight the rarity of these stamps." The imperforate airmails are noted by footnotes in Scott. I assume Scott views them as a special printing, not for postal purposes. Sanabria lists the imperforates, but does not say how they came to be. I could not find the imperforate railway stamps in Scott. Could they have been special issues for VIPs? Edit: Oops! I see Steve posted something very similar in September 2014. |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 10, 2015 22:15:11 GMT
Parcel Post and Railways Stamps 1895 Steiner Page 61 CV $360 / $22  1902 Page CV $7  1902 Used (seems the 15c value tablet is hard to come by CV : 20c ) Page CV $5  |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 10, 2015 23:37:11 GMT
1938 Semi-Postal. Steiner Page 43 CV$13 ea Copied from Scott Catalogue (applies to both sheets) "The sheet normally has pin holes and a cancellation-like marking in the margin. These are considered unused and the condition valued here."  1938 Steiner Page 45  |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 15, 2015 0:48:17 GMT
1941 Semi Postal Steiner page 23 Orval Abbey Anyone aware of what the 2 blocks attached by a string /rope may be? Per Crucem =Through the cross..  |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 19, 2015 1:04:07 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Jan 1, 2016 5:49:33 GMT
If any members would have information on this type of postmark, I would be delighted. Sc#455 1958 I wonder would it be a variation on the Postal Savings Bank, "Pizza Wheels" ?  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 2, 2016 3:51:09 GMT
If any members would have information on this type of postmark, I would be delighted. Sc#455 1958 I wonder would it be a variation on the Postal Savings Bank, "Pizza Wheels" ? Author "Jorge" with appreciation. That postmark is called "Diamant Ambulant" Used to cancel stamps that arrived at the post office (transit or final destination) not cancelled at origin English Translation = Travelling Diamond The French use the term for ordinary cancels it seems www.ebay.com.au/itm/1872-France-cover-from-St-Quentin-Station-P-LIL-dotted-diamond-Ambulant-cancel-/391256576167 |
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Post by cjd on Jan 2, 2016 5:34:45 GMT
Too new for me, I think, but are these TPO marks, then?
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Post by rod222 on Jan 2, 2016 5:44:25 GMT
Too new for me, I think, but are these TPO marks, then? I don't think so Collin, I can ask if you want. I think it is a translation oddity, just a "relief" pmk to handle missed cancellations. Like the "W1" of Austria, and another recently, which I cannot recall. Australia uses the "Marker Monkey" felt or Biro scribbles, which are promoted by Australia Post in their directive. |
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Post by cjd on Jan 2, 2016 6:04:56 GMT
The "ambulant" threw me, then...
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Post by rod222 on Jan 2, 2016 6:08:00 GMT
The "ambulant" threw me, then... Well, now you have me wondering. I'll have to get Jorge to expand. |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 2, 2016 12:53:47 GMT
1941 Semi Postal Steiner page 23 Orval Abbey Anyone aware of what the 2 blocks attached by a string /rope may be? Solved Author : SWH The device is used to determine whether something stands straight, not askew. The square part is put against a - say - wall, the round part dangles down on the rope. If the round part also touches the wall, the wall is straight, if not it is askew. Makes sense as an architects or builders tool. Nowadays people would use what I think in English is called a bubble level. |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 2, 2016 13:25:37 GMT
As a journeyman to an elder Polish carpenter I heard " whiskey stick".The bubble is formed by oil and alcohol was my explanation. Most just yell for the level.I use the level quite often laying pipe although we now have a laser transit which can be set with slope.The down side to that is "sticking" every pipe. When your already kneeling over the pipe setting the whiskey stick on it seems easier.
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Post by rod222 on Jan 2, 2016 13:45:58 GMT
As a journeyman to an elder Polish carpenter I heard " whiskey stick".The bubble is formed by oil and alcohol was my explanation. Most just yell for the level.I use the level quite often laying pipe although we now have a laser transit which can be set with slope.The down side to that is "sticking" every pipe. When your already kneeling over the pipe setting the whiskey stick on it seems easier. Installing roof gutters, I used to employ 30 foot of clear small bore, flexible poly tubing, filled with water. I could get a 1 inch fall over the length of the gutter. I expect they used a similar water device systems at the Pyramids. |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 3, 2016 0:13:41 GMT
Diamant Ambulant Author : Jorge. Ambulant takes on a differing nuance. "In Transit"  |
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Post by cjd on Jan 3, 2016 1:42:35 GMT
Good stuff.
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