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Post by rod222 on Apr 2, 2015 18:41:14 GMT
Rod,you seem to find some unusual things is there a secret you care to share?? Not really, Froggie. Yes, I am a collector, not a Philatelist. I have endured sniggers at auctions, years ago when I was buying Cinderellas and junk. (motto from the barefoot investor : "Tread your own path") to be honest, that's all I could afford in those days. Ajman, Sharjah Dune stamps, all that stuff. More recently, I have been very fortunate to receive fabulous gifts from Members of Forums, RYAN here, has been so generous with his unwanted Cindy stuff. Admin has sent me stuff, and others, sorry if I missed you I like this stuff, the big payoff, is to see it listed in a book, like Cindycan That gives me great pleasure. Collectors will still be referencing that book /catalogue 100 years hence. Sold Out !
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Post by cindycan2 on Apr 2, 2015 21:21:54 GMT
Thanks for the images Rod, and the reminder about the "Little Guide". Little no more, I'm afraid. I've had to increase the size to 8.5 x 11 inches, as there's now over 12,000 Canadian cinderellas catalogued, twice as many as in the 1st edition. From the scans, here are the ones that stand out: Voyageons avec Verdon: new one for me. It very closely resembles some "Timbre missionnaire" stamps designed and published in 1949 by Montreal artist Armand Barbeau. I would be surprised if this stamp was not also one of his creations. He produced a series of 144 designs for these "Timbres missionnaires" stamps, so I expect there will also be a bunch in the "Voyageons avec Verdon" series. I did some quick Google searches for who Verdon could be, but really didn't get any solid hits. I would have expected he was some type of priest or explorer, but more research will be required. Incidentally, I suspect Barbeau also had a hand in designing the Soeurs Grises stamps. Specifically, the Soeurs grises #5 in blue was also in the series of 144 Timbres missionnaires (#40 in green). QUEBEX: new to me. I think this was from a mail and public auction held in October 1979. Quebec conservation block: nice one, see cc4700 in the Field Guide. Ste Anne de Beaupre blue: cc4780.2 (ca. 1946). Societe St Jean Baptist: several examples, see cc3835. Xmas seals: several examples, see cc4120. Air mail labels: indeed they are Canadian, issued by the Post Office Department in 1939, in both English and French versions. Interestingly, they were supposed to be affixed to the letter (not the envelope) to remind the reader to reply by air mail. I’ve added a chapter for air mail etiquettes to the 2nd edition. KF shield stamps: these were from the Sister Kenney Foundation, a US charity. Notre Dame du Cap: see cc4610. Canada 82: will be added. There’s also a smaller label I’ve seen. Canada 84: see cc1345. Points-echange Cemoi: this is from Grenoble, France. Macdonald & Tilley: Maxwell house coffee promo from 1972 Wildlife stamps for Christmas: sheet from 1981 PEI horseshoe stamp: see cc3015 from 1909 Douane C1: I suspect this is from France, Canadian customs label were bilingual.
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Post by jamesw on Apr 2, 2015 22:27:06 GMT
Hey Cindycan. If I have anything that you can use for your new edition, let me know. I'd be happy to provide images.
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Post by cindycan2 on Apr 3, 2015 2:33:31 GMT
Hi James. Any Canadian cinderellas that are not already in the Field Guide (1st edition) and that haven't been showcased in this forum would be welcome. Just upload some images.
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Post by jamesw on Apr 3, 2015 3:45:41 GMT
Sadly I don't have a copy of your book to check against, and now, I'll certainly wait until the new edition is out. I've uploaded a number already, but I'll go through tomorrow and see if there are any others I've missed. I can think of a few already.
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Post by jamesw on Apr 3, 2015 15:02:24 GMT
Good morning all Cindycan, as suggested, here are some scans of Canadian labels which, to me, seem obscure, but you may have seen before. Again, I don't have a copy of your catalogue. A couple have been posted here previously, but these are better scans. Feel free to use any if you can. The last scan, the 6 labels from Regina, I think is a partial set. I think there's another half dozen and I've seen them in blue as well. May I also point out this Jozef Tiso label I posted on another thread, which was produced in Hamilton. I did post it but it received no comments. I am still curious about it.
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Post by cindycan2 on Apr 4, 2015 15:17:12 GMT
Thanks for the scans James. Indeed the Regina was a set of 12. The other ones I've seen have a green frame. They are already in the Filed Guide (cc3055). I'll include the Bureau of engraving stamp in the updated listing; can you provide the size (either perf to perf or design)? From what I could gather from the Vernon City of London directories, it was a printing shop operated by Edward Mitchell in London, Ontario. It was initially located at 436½ Richmond Rd around 1916, and later moved to 380 Richmond Rd. around 1922. The flag stamp was also included in the Field Guide (cc3860.3): It was proposed in 1947 by Adélard Godbout (Premier of Quebec in 1936 and from 1939 to 1944) and was the flag of the League of the Canadian Flag. Issued in sheets of 100 (10 x 10). Trade Fair (cc0395.5). I've now seen 7 different labels for these Toronto trade fairs, which were held annually from 1948-1955. Ottawa rover crew: this scouting stamp from the 2nd Ottawa Rover crew will be included in the 2nd edition. It features St George and the Dragon and was designed by Orville J. O’Brian, Rover Leader. Issued in 1970 in a sheet of 4 stamps (2 x 2, 100 x 116 mm). A total of 500 perforated and 500 imperforate sheets were printed by Mosbaugh Printing Co. of Joplin, Missouri. There's also a proof of this stamp printed in black on ungummed paper and lacking the scout symbol in upper right corner, but I've haven't seen that yet. Something to look for... Joseph Tiso: an interesting stamp that I'll include in the Field Guide 2nd edition. Can you provide the size? In the 2nd edition I'm including many stamps and labels that were produced by exiled groups living in Canada, including the General Goppers funds stamps (Latvian boy scouts in exile), Latvian propaganda stamps (Latvian Philatelic Society), Ukrainian boy scout stamps, and a few others.
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Post by jamesw on Apr 4, 2015 19:15:01 GMT
Glad to be able to contribute! The Bureau of Engraving sramp image area is 54 x 35 mm. Joseph Tiso image area is 59 x 34mm.
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Post by rod222 on Apr 5, 2015 2:49:28 GMT
Guess: Selection du readers digest Timbre D'Epargne de selection deux dollars $2 Reader's Digest Promotional Labels Canada Pegasus in various forms are the Logo of Reader's Digest.
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Post by rod222 on Apr 5, 2015 3:11:15 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Apr 5, 2015 3:28:10 GMT
1958 Soo Line Railroad Unlisted in the Field Guide I had this one under US Cinderellas But see it has been addressed under "Soo Line ca. 1962" cc2690 Tip to tip 37mm wide 45mm tall. Light yellow gum
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Post by jamesw on Apr 5, 2015 16:56:37 GMT
Supplemental to Rods Reader's Digest post, its English language $1 counterpart.
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Post by cjd on Apr 5, 2015 18:12:14 GMT
rod, that is a great Soo Line label. The corporate history of U.S. railroads is ridiculously murky, but the railroad known as the Soo Line, in 1958, was the Minneapolis, St. Paul and Sault Ste. Marie Railroad. Although it was a subsidiary of the Canadian Pacific, it was definitely a U.S. road, so without knowing the background on the genesis of your label, I would tend to treat that piece as a U.S. cinderella, circa 1958.
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Post by rod222 on Apr 5, 2015 18:21:05 GMT
rod, that is a great Soo Line label. The corporate history of U.S. railroads is ridiculously murky, but the railroad known as the Soo Line, in 1958, was the Minneapolis, St. Paul and Sault Ste. Marie Railroad. Although it was a subsidiary of the Canadian Pacific, it was definitely a U.S. road, so without knowing the background on the genesis of your label, I would tend to treat that piece as a U.S. cinderella, circa 1958. I heartily agree Collin, but I also understand why Ron included them in his Catalogue, Kind of a Grey Area, and why not include them for a broader knowledge of the discipline, it definitely has links to Canada through CPR CPR may have in fact, been the ones having the celebration. I always support too much info, than not enough. The Michel Catalogue is a standard bearer in that regard. It's hard to imagine that bit of paper is going on for 60 years old, it looks and feels mint.
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Post by rod222 on Apr 5, 2015 18:27:01 GMT
A supplement to James' supplement. Mine is a Booklet Stamp, whereas James' is a coil (Also a differing font) PS: Thanks James, that image actually "proves" my original stamp is from Reader's Digest, and having French text, would suggest strongly Canada.
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Post by rod222 on Apr 5, 2015 18:39:41 GMT
Just a quick "Did you Know?" Reader's Digest, Australia, bought out "Seven Seas Stamps" one of Australia's largest and major Stamp companies. From what I gather, they did not do very well, and sold it on, at a great loss.
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Post by cindycan2 on Apr 6, 2015 16:12:16 GMT
Thanks again for the images. I agree Soo Line was an American operation. I included the Soo Line sheets in the Field Guide as many of them highlight all the nice scenery in the Canadian Rockies. They actually date to about 1914-1915, not 1962 (that whole description is re-written for the 2nd edition). I should have known better because some of the Soo Line stamps refer to the Panama-Pacific Exposition (held in 1915)! As for Reader's Digest, those shown above will be included. Here are some which I have it on good authority are definitely Canadian.
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Post by cindycan2 on Apr 11, 2015 22:22:32 GMT
As members of this forum know, I'm working on a 2nd edition of the Field Guide to the Cinderella Stamps of Canada. If all goes as planned, I should have some printed books available for the ORAPEX meeting in Ottawa (May 2-3). In the mean time, here's what the front cover looks like. Thought this might be of interest. Try to count how many maple leafs are in there!
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Post by Admin on Apr 11, 2015 23:17:33 GMT
As members of this forum know, I'm working on a 2nd edition of the Field Guide to the Cinderella Stamps of Canada. If all goes as planned, I should have some printed books available for the ORAPEX meeting in Ottawa (May 2-3). In the mean time, here's what the front cover looks like. Thought this might be of interest. Try to count how many maple leafs are in there!
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Apr 20, 2015 16:48:11 GMT
1950's Imperial sheet.Picked up at bargain price (in my eyes) $25.
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Post by rod222 on Apr 23, 2015 5:05:46 GMT
Canada Zeppelin (Incorrect term, just used for search facility) FQP QFP Airship Dirigible R-100 Montreal visit 1930 1980 Federation Quebecoise de Philatelie Field Guide #1310 (Imperforate not listed) Rarely seen. Tete Beche Pair (Sheet of 4 possibly cut in half)
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Post by Londonbus1 on Apr 23, 2015 14:15:10 GMT
Canada Zeppelin (Incorrect term, just used for search facility) FQP QFP Airship Dirigible R-100 Montreal visit 1930 1980 Federation Quebecoise de Philatelie Field Guide #1310 (Imperforate not listed) Rarely seen. Tete Beche Pair (Sheet of 4 possibly cut in half) Rod, I take it this is half a sheet ?
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Post by cindycan2 on Apr 23, 2015 16:47:57 GMT
Yes it looks like a cut up sheet, with only 2 vignettes. Since it appears to be scissor-cut on the left, right, and bottom, I suspect it is a cut up proof sheet (type 1), but printed onto regular paper. The Type 1 imperforate proof sheets I have seen are actually printed on thick leather-grained cardboard.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Apr 24, 2015 7:50:31 GMT
1950's Imperial sheet.Picked up at bargain price (in my eyes) $25. frog, I have just been looking around and came across a few of these labels and I was stunned at the prices I saw !! Your $25 does seem like a real bargain after this morning journey !!
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Post by rod222 on Apr 30, 2015 11:21:19 GMT
I labelled this scan as "Great Britain" then saw "Printed in Canada" on the Bulldog label. What about the other cachets? GB or Canada,or ? Thanks The "tank" cachet, is on a mutilated window envelope, would this perhaps be part of a Slogan Postmark?
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Post by cindycan2 on Apr 30, 2015 15:22:56 GMT
It has been suggested that most of the "There'll Always be an England" WWII die-cut labels/stickers were of Canadian origin. There were certainly other Canadian patriotic cinderellas promoting War Savings Certificates and War Savings Stamps, so I would suspect that the two cutouts are also of Canadian origin.
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Post by rod222 on May 1, 2015 1:11:46 GMT
There'll always be an England. British Bulldog. Postal Stationery cachet. Ebay
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Post by jamesw on May 6, 2015 3:04:33 GMT
Hey Rod! With regards to your Inter-University Transit System stamps you posted a while back. The Vincent Greene Foundation in Toronto has established a study group looking into these items and are looking for material and information. I've got a post card from them I picked up a while ago requesting items. It says that if you have any relevant items to contact the VGF at: library@greenefoundation.ca subject: IUTS Here's a scan of the message on the back of the card. Thought you'd like to know.
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Post by rod222 on May 6, 2015 7:21:17 GMT
Thanks James ! I'll email them, and offer this link thestampforum.boards.net/post/18278They can read the Thread for other posts, and search the forum for IUTS No doubt, Ron would be the "go to" person, he will no doubt read this. Well done you.
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Post by rod222 on May 7, 2015 2:08:12 GMT
Searching Google for posts: iuts site:thestampforum.boards.net
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