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Post by tallanent on Apr 26, 2018 18:16:00 GMT
A little spare time and I have now reached 18,380 British marks listed and with some of the gaps also filled I have also reached the target of 87 percent illustrated
The task will continue ... but first I have to take my granddaughter for a walk ...
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Post by tallanent on Apr 27, 2018 22:24:58 GMT
Work has continued on this project ... [Moderator edit - image links are broken and irretrievable] The image above filled a gap in the listing that did not have a scan ...   ... and these two latest entries expand the types used at this office As always as I go through the scans I have on file, there are a number of updates to date ranges, codes etc - as well as new entries The British marks now have over 18,400 listed .... Not GB related - but in the database ... a number of blank entries for Australia have been added and a few USA items - so both those areas are slowly expanding Another area that has been slowly expanding is censor marks and these are all under the 'Special Postmarks' section - search box at top right on the main page Some of these were used at specific locations and will often aid in identification of a location for a given cover  Above is the latest addition to censor marks - used at Banff - 9 June 1944 I hope all this information comes in useful at some stage with members collections .... Allan |
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Post by tallanent on May 5, 2018 18:52:12 GMT
Everything to this point now listed in the database
With thanks ... Allan
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Post by Bas S Warwick on May 10, 2018 7:34:04 GMT
Hatfield Herts 11AM DE 21 1903 duplex 343 Hatfield and the north - thats a road sign I have seen too many times.  |
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Post by feebletodix on May 10, 2018 7:37:13 GMT
Hatfield Herts 11AM DE 21 1903 duplex 343 Hatfield and the north - thats a road sign I have seen too many times. Hatfield was just outside my stomping groung when I was working for POCL in the district office in Oxford, I got Luton and Hemel Hemsptead to look after. |
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Post by Bas S Warwick on May 10, 2018 7:37:55 GMT
...........some of these bringing back lots of memories, even though I left the UK 24 years ago.
Waiting for me home town to appear.
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Post by tallanent on May 11, 2018 20:17:38 GMT
Western District Office Revenue Out Letter Office W1P 1AA 15 NOV 1971 The text on this (top centre) is REVENUE DUTY
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Post by feebletodix on May 12, 2018 6:36:12 GMT
Thanks, it is amazing how the brain sees what it wants and not what is there sometimes.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 12, 2018 7:29:26 GMT
Walton on Thames D AU 3 1906 First of all, my compliments to Gavin ( feebletodix ) on your excellent collection of British postmarks--very impressive, and clearly there are still more to come! I think you may have found your way to becoming the fastest to get to 100 posts of any member on TSF, so well done to you! I also want to compliment Allan ( tallanent ) on your postmark website--I paid a couple of short visits there, and it is a treasure trove of information. Thank you so much for doing it, and making it readily available to everyone's benefit. Well done to you, too! As I know that these posts by Gavin are going into Allan's database, I did want to point out one thing that I noticed about the above post: I think that the town location may be misidentified in this case. To me, it looks like Walton-on-(the)-Naze rather than Walton-on-Thames. I also did a quick check and confirmed that there is, indeed, a Walton-on-the-Naze in Essex, so I just wanted to mention this for the sake of accuracy on the GB postmark database. Now if I can just get my own GB postmarks organized, I might be able to make a contribution or two myself.... |
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Post by tallanent on May 12, 2018 20:12:07 GMT
Beryllium Guy - thanks for the comments
I did spot the postmark Walton On Naze and this is indeed in the correct place in the database - always good to have another pair of eyes checking things as these can be easily missed
Everything to this stage is now listed in the database
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Post by tallanent on May 12, 2018 23:15:18 GMT
The database now contains 18,460 British postmarks with over 16,000 illustrated.
As well as a good number of new entries from the above, there has also been a lot of revisions to dates and codes used etc ...
The addition of duplex marks (as shown on this thread) now adds to the ability to search numbers as far more of these are now listed - a great number of these with various types shown ..
As I mentioned earlier, there are also a growing number of censor marks and forwarding agents cachets in the special marks section and as this expands, I hope this will allow greater research to be carried out on covers that appear on the market or in collections ...
My thanks again to everyone who has helped with this project, either on this thread or by email. Some of those sent by email are still waiting to be added, but I will get to these as I get time
Regards .. Allan
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Post by feebletodix on May 13, 2018 8:19:55 GMT
Thank you for the correction, it drives me nuts when I realise I have published incorrect information. Yet again I saw what was familiar rather than reading the text.
It has been a rare treat for me to be able to make a reasonable contribution to a project rather than just sit at the back learning.
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on May 13, 2018 15:42:20 GMT
I use something called Crossword Nexus to help me with puzzles like this one. They have a page which allows you to use what are known in the computer programming world as regular expressions to search the title of every Wikipedia article. Since virtually every British settlement has its own article on Wikipedia, you can almost always find what you're looking for. Regular expressions can be very powerful, although writing them is something like learning a new language. At their simplest, just use a "*" as a wildcard which allows for any number of unknown characters to be replaced. In your example, I searched for "*amerham*" (the wildcard at the end of the search means it would also find potential Wiki articles such as "Hamerham, Hampshire" or whatever might be lurking in Wikipedia). In your case, the complete town name was Damerham. Population is now just over 500 people, so not such a common postmark, I'm sure.  Ryan |
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Post by tallanent on May 13, 2018 16:54:45 GMT
I use something called Crossword Nexus to help me with puzzles like this one. They have a page which allows you to use what are known in the computer programming world as regular expressions to search the title of every Wikipedia article. Since virtually every British settlement has its own article on Wikipedia, you can almost always find what you're looking for. Regular expressions can be very powerful, although writing them is something like learning a new language. At their simplest, just use a "*" as a wildcard which allows for any number of unknown characters to be replaced. In your example, I searched for "*amerham*" (the wildcard at the end of the search means it would also find potential Wiki articles such as "Hamerham, Hampshire" or whatever might be lurking in Wikipedia). In your case, the complete town name was Damerham. Population is now just over 500 people, so not such a common postmark, I'm sure. Ryan I just typed the letters into the database and found a match .... |
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Post by tallanent on May 14, 2018 9:41:52 GMT
Blackburn Aberdeen 9 JA 73 Bucksburn Aberdeen |
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Post by Bas S Warwick on May 14, 2018 9:56:53 GMT
Spent a day a week in the Bethnal Green area of London....
Bicker, Boston - now you are getting close.
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on May 14, 2018 14:12:49 GMT
I just typed the letters into the database and found a match .... I had tried that before looking at Crossword Nexus but at that time, your site didn't bring up anything for me. Now when I type "amerham" into the first input box on your search index page ("To search the database for place names use this option ") I do get the new Damerham entry (your ref code #18095) but no other matches. Is there a different input box you used to get the match? I typically use your site before trying Crossword Nexus so I'd like to make sure I'm using it correctly. Ryan |
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Post by tallanent on May 14, 2018 15:59:13 GMT
I just typed the letters into the database and found a match .... I had tried that before looking at Crossword Nexus but at that time, your site didn't bring up anything for me. Now when I type "amerham" into the first input box on your search index page ("To search the database for place names use this option ") I do get the new Damerham entry (your ref code #18095) but no other matches. Is there a different input box you used to get the match? I typically use your site before trying Crossword Nexus so I'd like to make sure I'm using it correctly. Ryan Ryan
No that is the correct search box - entry type just not sure why there were no entries shown when you first tried as that was added some time ago - as seen by the ref number 18095 (now at over 21400)
Whilst I am here ... I have also been working through some of the additional scans stored on my drive. This has resulted in a few new entries but in most cases a number of updates to those already in place. All this should aid in identification whilst at the same time making the information freely available to collectors
I am still getting a number of emails regarding prices for various postmarks - something I have avoided up to now
Do members here think this should be added to the database ? Would it be a useful addition ?
It would take some time to adapt the code on the page to deal with this ... but I would be happy to do so if it would help. I would need to spend some time thinking it through and how to set it up .... but I will wait to see what the general feeling is before spending the time on it
Allan
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Post by tallanent on May 14, 2018 21:21:24 GMT
As well as all the updates that have been made (as mentioned above), with yet more additions the database now has 18,490 British entries and over 87 percent of these are illustrated
Naturally every addition made in recent years has been on the basis of items seen, thus all thes new entries will have a picture / scan added with the details
A few oddments from Canada / USA and Australia have also been added - but those sections are still very small compared to the British marks
I hope that all this is useful to collectors and I will hopefully get some more added in over the next few days
Allan
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Post by tallanent on May 16, 2018 0:14:18 GMT
All to this stage now added to the database
We now stand at just over 18,500 marks listed ....
As normal - more updates also made to get as much data as possible in the hands of collectors
Allan
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Post by tallanent on May 16, 2018 9:31:04 GMT
Chapel End Stockport Cheshire 23 NO 77 Chapel en le Frith Stockport Cheshire |
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Post by tallanent on May 17, 2018 18:16:38 GMT
Clarkstown Glasgow 7 JAN 64 Clarkston Glasgow |
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Post by tallanent on May 18, 2018 8:41:47 GMT
All the above are now listed in the database There is now 18,550 British marks listed A number of gaps have been filled and more updates to details made / added in ...
The latest entry to the database is a duplex for Ruthin number 665
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Post by tallanent on May 18, 2018 9:25:19 GMT
Another interesting addition to the database ... [Moderator edit - image link is broken and irretrievable]375 - used at Holywell The 4-2-2-4 bar type was issued in 1844 Later (1857) a 3-2-2-3 bar type is known in use Details for the office ... By 1784 - POST TOWN
1 October 1792 - Money Order Office
16 October 1861 - Savings Bank
1870 - Telegraph Office. Code used = HKU
11 January 1958 - Changed from HO to Salaried Sub Office When first seen, this was just discarded as a fake - but I do not believe this to be the case ... It is possible that this was in use at the office in 1855 - 1856 The cancellation shows all the signs of being the earlier 1844 type (later use) with the device with having dirt / dried ink clogging up the hand-stamp, and this causing the side arcs to be filled in, the numeral to be touching the arcs and the apparent "border" at the top The picture is made from two scans (of the same stamp) laid together to show the full mark as far as possible ... There are still a great number of variations to be found for the postmark collector - so keep your eyes open for the strange and odd items that appear from time to time Allan
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Post by tallanent on May 19, 2018 7:39:57 GMT
Everything to this stage is now listed in the database ....
I will be leaving in about an hour and will be away for about a week - so with no access to a PC, there will be no updates during this time
On my return I will naturally play catch up and get things sorted as quickly as I can
Have fun everyone - play nicely and I will speak again in a weeks time
Allan
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Post by Bombadil on May 24, 2018 15:13:50 GMT
Birmingham
I couldn't figure out the date, but using this very useful website link i was able to track down the Registered envelope from where the cut-out came from.
I think it is from a 1891-2, Size F Registered envelope .
"Registered envelopes were issued as early as the reign of Queen Victoria. Various sizes were issued and they were allocated a distinguishing letter. The smallest was 'F' — 3.25 inch x 5.25 inch, then 'G' and 'G2' — 3.75 inch x 6 inch, 'H' and Forces 'H2' up to mid 1967 — 5 inch x 8 inch (subsequently 4.75 inch x 8 inch) 'H2' — 4 inch x 9 inch, 'I' — 7 inch x 10 inch and the largest 'K' and 'K2' — 6 inch x 11.5 inch".link
feebletodix can you confirm the above pls ? and maybe decipher the date ?
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Post by feebletodix on May 24, 2018 15:34:47 GMT
Hello,
I cannot cofirm the quote without looking it up, however the year is 1893, the left vertical of the month is visible along with the angle which suggests M or N The counter duty is C so Warstone Lane Birmingham Duty C 22 xx 1893. Any pencil marks on the back?
Regards
Gavin
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Post by Bombadil on May 24, 2018 15:43:30 GMT
Hello, I cannot cofirm the quote without looking it up, however the year is 1893, the left vertical of the month is visible along with the angle which suggests M or N The counter duty is C so Warstone Lane Birmingham Duty C 22 xx 1893. Any pencil marks on the back? Regards Gavin Thank you for your quick analysis Gavin . No pencil marks on back .
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Post by feebletodix on May 25, 2018 8:19:01 GMT
Any time. Just a shame it was so badly clipped. Nice acquisition.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 26, 2018 20:55:27 GMT
Farnborough, Hants (Hampshire) on 15 March 1890 I hope this one wasn't already posted, but there are just too many in the thread to check them all now! I wanted to contribute a little something, anyway....  |
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