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Post by rod222 on Aug 1, 2015 1:59:16 GMT
As promised, a nice old cover from London to Aberdeen dated Jan 2 1813. Rated at 1/3 ms at lower left. Clear postmark on the front and back but there is a nice rectangular mark at the back that is not clear. I'd love to know what this says. You would think it said ABERDEEN but it looks like there's too many letters and not the right letters to spell Aberdeen. Any ideas? I think it may be a London Receiving House Street postmark. The last bit at the end looks like S t so it could be ???NVILLE. GRANVILLE St ? What leaves you to believe it originated in London? My interpretation would be Edinburgh to Aberdeen Edinburgh circular type with full year on front (in red) (1801-1857) backstamped Aberdeen (ADE) The, what looks like NB manuscript worries me on the front . North Britain. Oops 1/3d (Edinburgh to Aberdeen = 127 miles for the mileage postal rate philatelists) |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 1, 2015 2:50:37 GMT
Great Britain Postmarks.
Some examples Past and present.........
World's End
Ugley
Lovely Lane
Barking
Yelling
Clatter, Knock, and Tooting.
acknowledgement : "Collect British Postmarks" J.T. Whitney
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Post by jimjung on Aug 1, 2015 14:38:03 GMT
As promised, a nice old cover from London to Aberdeen dated Jan 2 1813. Rated at 1/3 ms at lower left. Clear postmark on the front and back but there is a nice rectangular mark at the back that is not clear. I'd love to know what this says. You would think it said ABERDEEN but it looks like there's too many letters and not the right letters to spell Aberdeen. Any ideas? I think it may be a London Receiving House Street postmark. The last bit at the end looks like S t so it could be ???NVILLE. GRANVILLE St ? What leaves you to believe it originated in London? My interpretation would be Edinburgh to Aberdeen Edinburgh circular type with full year on front (in red) (1801-1857) backstamped Aberdeen (ADE) The, what looks like NB manuscript worries me on the front . North Britain. Oops 1/3d (Edinburgh to Aberdeen = 127 miles for the mileage postal rate philatelists) London to Aberdeen = 528 miles. Effective July 9, 1812 the postage rate was 1/3. Interesting to note that there looks to be a previous rate ms at the upper right that was crossed out. Not sure why this is. |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Aug 2, 2015 0:29:08 GMT
Collecting British Squared Circle Postmarks  |
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Post by zipper on Aug 3, 2015 19:02:06 GMT
Hyde Park Corners, Leeds Squared Circle  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 4, 2015 1:53:45 GMT
Hyde Park Corners, Leeds Squared Circle Lovely squared Circle ! Zipper. My Auntie lives in Northumberland (The Lake District) Here is a pic of Lumbylaw PS: Not listed (The squared Circle) in the Philatelic database, another new one from the Zipper! Alas, Alan appears to still be away, poorly. (Sennen still not added)  |
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Post by Ryan on Aug 7, 2015 7:42:24 GMT
Here's a modern British stamp with a cancellation that caught my eye - British Forces Post Office Hong Kong. tallanent's website for British Postmarks shows a couple of different versions of this, with the difference being a code number at the bottom of the rings. Unfortunately, that portion of the cancellation is missing from this stamp - oh well.  Ryan |
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Post by zipper on Aug 18, 2015 4:10:04 GMT
Bradford Yorks  Oldbury  Higham Ferrers  Waterloo Liverpool  |
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Post by zipper on Aug 18, 2015 4:13:23 GMT
Horndean  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2015 4:47:09 GMT
zipper Nice Bradford Squared Circle Zipper. Unusual Hammer Code = 8 CH = Hammer #8, and the letter posted using the Code CH = 3:40pm Super! (These Code letters were used >1887 )  Yours is a Type 1, 3 arc, squared circle, (no index) with triangles in each corner. Some other Bradford types / styles /covers Source : "The Squared Circle Postmarks of Yorkshire " Don C Walton May 1973 Price 75p + Postage  The middle cover you can see the "index" 9 , in the arcs 
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Post by zipper on Aug 18, 2015 4:52:43 GMT
Thanks, Rod.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2015 4:58:13 GMT
No. Thank you  I have waited 12 years, to see a Bradford Squared Circle, where I could use the time code. Never seen one before. It was a Joy. |
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Post by zipper on Aug 18, 2015 23:15:57 GMT
Yo, Rod. Was looking to buy a copy of Collecting British Squared Circle Postmarks and saw there are many editions. Do I need them all?
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2015 23:43:14 GMT
Yo, Rod. Was looking to buy a copy of Collecting British Squared Circle Postmarks and saw there are many editions. Do I need them all? Hi Zipper, Impossible for me to advise, I am a general "collector", not a Philatelist. You are about to grasp the Dragon's tail. For the expense of buying Literature, then the stamps, would be out of my spectrum, for dedicated study. you may have to decide you want to go that dedicated route. My suggestion, as with all thematics, is to find a club or organisation, you can swap information, buy literature, swap stamps etc a lot cheaper than ebay. Squared Circles have a huge following, lots of collectors love them. I'd suggest any collection you build, would maintain its value This is the "Bible" apparently If you find the genre "fun" then certainly, pursue it.  |
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Post by zipper on Aug 19, 2015 8:25:23 GMT
Mulready Sheet with maltese cross cancel. I normally post only new purchases, but decided to add this. I also use it as my avatar here.  |
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Post by zipper on Aug 19, 2015 8:33:34 GMT
Oh, dear… Someone else has discovered my source for squared circle cancels and has outbid me on all but one. Guess my collection ends for awhile.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 19, 2015 9:18:56 GMT
Oh, dear… Someone else has discovered my source for squared circle cancels and has outbid me on all but one. Guess my collection ends for awhile. Yes, that can happen, my overseas dealer, seems to have found new clients, and I have lost a large portion of the "good buys" he prev had. You just kinda have to keep fishing around for new grounds. Still do not use ebay, it seems vastly overpriced for me, $2-$5 for a stamp plus shipping, plus exchange rate. Who is paying these amounts? I click on "watch the item" and very few sell. I just don't get it. Good on you for sticking within a budget. There always will be "more stamps" one just has to be patient. |
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Post by jamesw on Aug 20, 2015 3:11:42 GMT
Another note from Ron and Eunice regarding the triangle in the cancel on the previous page.
'There was another response on the GBPS forum yesterday.
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I disagree with Hendy on two counts: I believe the datestamp was steel; and the symbol was a stamper's code (or at least an identifying code of some kind), the right-hand letter indicating the time of day. According to Alcock & Holland and Mackay, most (but not all) of the letters of the alphabet were used, as well as asterisks, daggers and triangles
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Hendy is the name of the editor of a catalogue.'
Thanks to Ron and Eunice, if you're reading this, and to our Rod for pointing us to them!
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Post by zipper on Aug 21, 2015 0:12:22 GMT
Exbourne  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 21, 2015 7:33:02 GMT
You've done it again Zipper No Exbourne in the Philatelic Database, remarkable. I note a new Post Office was opened there in 2012 I am from that region, never heard of Exbourne before now, Another nice Squared Circle |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 21, 2015 7:43:59 GMT
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Post by zipper on Sept 2, 2015 2:24:13 GMT
Stockport Squared Circle Postmark  Waterfoot Squared Circle Postmark  |
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Post by zipper on Sept 2, 2015 2:26:34 GMT
Anyone know where I can get a list of all the GB squared circle postmarks? I've search Google and found some lists, but they're incomplete. Can't find books either that have a complete list.
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Post by cjd on Sept 2, 2015 2:44:08 GMT
I can't say that Cohen's Collecting British Squared Circle Postmarks is complete, but I don't know that it is not...have you checked into that one yet?
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Post by zipper on Sept 2, 2015 2:58:41 GMT
Can't find it for less than 50-some dollars.
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Post by cjd on Sept 2, 2015 3:11:40 GMT
Well, you didn't say it couldn't be expensive...  |
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Post by zipper on Sept 2, 2015 3:14:40 GMT
Haven't given up looking. Would like to keep it at $25 or less.
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Post by cjd on Sept 2, 2015 3:30:19 GMT
Make sure what you buy includes both London and provincial offices. 1987 is one volume; 2006 is two volumes. This website might be of interest to someone with a passing interest in squared circles of the world: thesquaredcirclepostmarksworldwide.ca/doc.html |
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Post by zipper on Sept 2, 2015 5:26:59 GMT
Just found one on AbeBooks! From GB, with shipping: $44.08 U.S.
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Post by Admin on Sept 2, 2015 5:56:33 GMT
The cost of referance material zipper. I slowly building a referance library . Very costly but often you will find a PDF for free. |
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