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Post by daniel on Aug 5, 2023 20:30:41 GMT
Mixed Postmarks Received today, a cover with 2 different postmarks. It was posted in Martock Post office in Somerset who handstamped one of the stamps but not the other. When it was received at Exeter Mailing Centre, Devon the other stamp was postmarked with their handstamp. Quite unusual. On 2D barcoded Machins.
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sudbury12000
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Post by sudbury12000 on Sept 6, 2023 14:36:11 GMT
£20 of postage on this Boston(?) Grantham Linconshire CDS. I think I am correct in this mark, but I am not familiar with all GB post offices. Regardless, that is a lot of postage!
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Post by sudbury12000 on Sept 7, 2023 13:04:39 GMT
this appears to be B11, Devoran, Cornwall. The dealer had it noted as "BILL" and I am not sure that is correct. It is inverted I think, but comments are welcome.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 5, 2023 5:45:12 GMT
Devoran Cornwall, B11 1874-1906, Under Truro 1844-1859 Railway Sub Office 1859-1905, Independent sub office 1859-1860
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Post by rod222 on Oct 5, 2023 5:53:59 GMT
Would welcome any feedback on a dead link, "The Philatelic Web" Webmaster Allan Oliver "Tallanent" One of the best, if not THE best GB Postmark links that existed, sadly gone missing. Thanks
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Post by Ryan on Oct 5, 2023 7:58:49 GMT
Would welcome any feedback on a dead link, "The Philatelic Web" Webmaster Allan Oliver "Tallanent" Hello Sir Rodney! Allan hasn't been signed in to his TSF account since July 2020, and his latest public posting on his Facebook account was around Xmas 2020. But his account summary on Stampboards says he was last signed in there just a couple of days ago, Oct. 2. I've never signed up there and as a non-member I don't think there's a way for me to look at his latest posts there - maybe somebody who is more willing to tolerate The Sheriff than I am can find out if he has posted there recently (his account name there is tallanent, same as it is here on TSF). For what it's worth, not only the Philatelic Web postmarks site is gone, but also his stamp sales site, "Shropshire Stamp Man", which used the same domain root address. Ryan
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 5, 2023 8:17:03 GMT
Cheers Ryan, I think I recall he was not well, during correspondence around 2020 It just seems strange that such a tour de force of a Philatelic resource should just disappear. Very sadly missed by this Postmark collector.
I took a screenshot of his Twitter page April 2023, but latest tweet was june 2018 (18,670 British Postmarks listed) (circa 16,000 images)
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 5, 2023 10:20:12 GMT
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 5, 2023 10:39:19 GMT
I took a screenshot of his Twitter page April 2023, but latest tweet was june 2018 (18,670 British Postmarks listed) (circa 16,000 images) He was still active on Facebook in June. Also, I seem to recall a post from him around that time on one of the many Stamp groups.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 5, 2023 14:53:34 GMT
Thanks a bunch Londonbus, shall chase those links up.
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Post by carolusf on Dec 2, 2023 14:02:26 GMT
Hello fellow Postal History enthusiasts! I am posting begging for your help, I've been trying to identify this postmark without success, and I am frustrated! It was applied on the reverse of a letter sent from Mexico City to Belfast, it is dated 1827. Does anyone know something about it? Thanks in advance!
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Post by rod222 on Dec 2, 2023 15:46:44 GMT
carolusf May we have an full image of the front and rear of the item. It all assists identification. Looks similar to The General Post 1661 -1840 Whitney Type 5, double rim 1791-1828 in designLondon time, or date stamp maybe.
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Post by daniel on Dec 2, 2023 16:49:34 GMT
Hello fellow Postal History enthusiasts! I am posting begging for your help, I've been trying to identify this postmark without success, and I am frustrated! It was applied on the reverse of a letter sent from Mexico City to Belfast, it is dated 1827. Does anyone know something about it? Thanks in advance! Hi carolusf, it is difficult with GB postmarks since there are so many variations. However, from Stanley Gibbons Collect British Postmarks, we can see that this is listed under The General Post to 1839. Letters for Ireland would have been sorted in London and then sent on to Ireland. See 1/8 illustrated below and in the listing 1/9 states "As above, but year in 3 or 4 figures, 1800-39". The date your letter was received in London, then, is 9th October 1827. Daniel
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Post by daniel on Dec 2, 2023 17:21:34 GMT
carolusf, further information is given in "The History of the Early Postmarks of the British Isles" by John G Hendy. In which, he relates the terrible tale of a sorter in the London Chief Office in 1794 who was accused of stealing a letter. The Post Office admitted that it wasn't possible to determine precisely when a letter received its postmark. Nevertheless, the sorter was found guilty and hanged. After that a distinction was made between morning and afternoon handstamps with the double ring indicating the afternoon. The letter code, H in your example, indicated the table or division in the Inland branch where the letter was sorted. Daniel
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Post by carolusf on Dec 2, 2023 21:42:54 GMT
Thank you so much Daniel!! You have been incredibly helpful.
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Post by rod222 on Dec 29, 2023 1:26:43 GMT
Great Britain : CDS Circular Date Stamps, the smallest and the largest ?
Smallest Manchester 1896 CDS 15mm Largest LIMAVADY (Nthn Ireland) 2003 46mm
Any GB specialists aware of when the first CDS included the postcode?
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Post by daniel on Dec 29, 2023 2:09:46 GMT
rod222 , Postal Districts were introduced in 1857. See this extract from 'The History of the Postmarks of the British Isles from !849 to 1876' by John G Hendy published by Stanley Gibbons in 1909 and available online here. Here is an extract from the copy that I have:
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Post by rod222 on Dec 29, 2023 3:52:59 GMT
rod222 , Postal Districts were introduced in 1857. See this extract from 'The History of the Postmarks of the British Isles from !849 to 1876' by John G Hendy published by Stanley Gibbons in 1909 and available online here. Here is an extract from the copy that I have: daniel Thanks Daniel, for a moment there, I couldn't understand your reply ? Then the penny dropped, postcodes postal districts, you caught me out ! I had not considered those.
My intentions were the modern postcodes, sorry not being more precise.
I have Slough 1995 but wondered if SLO-9 was a postcode? Otherwise 2003 LIMAVADY postcode I do not recall seeing any others in my travels.
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Post by daniel on Dec 29, 2023 13:37:18 GMT
rod222 , okay, postcodes seem to be seldom used on postmarks. Here is one for Windsor Castle (from Stanley Gibbons Collect British Postmarks).
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Post by rod222 on Mar 17, 2024 17:55:35 GMT
I do not believe this is a British Postmark ?STRAD anybody?
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Post by franoise on Mar 17, 2024 18:12:03 GMT
..strad or ..stead ? With 2PM it would most likely be British.
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Post by rod222 on Mar 17, 2024 18:26:09 GMT
..strad or ..stead ? With 2PM it would most likely be British. Well done! Completely missed that One of possible 3 Berkhampstead East Grinstead Felstead Halstead Hemel Hampstead Moreton Hampstead Stacksteads Worstead
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Post by rod222 on Mar 17, 2024 23:04:46 GMT
..strad or ..stead ? With 2PM it would most likely be British. Looks like FELSTEAD A village in England (Essex) Exists in a single ring Pmk without County ID at bottom ring
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Post by daniel on Mar 18, 2024 2:47:01 GMT
..strad or ..stead ? With 2PM it would most likely be British. Well done! Completely missed that One of possible 3 Berkhampstead East Grinstead Felstead Halstead Hemel Hampstead Moreton Hampstead Stacksteads Worstead Or Hampstead but here's a Halstead of the same type:
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Post by rod222 on Mar 18, 2024 3:06:16 GMT
daniel Nice research ! HAMPSTEAD is too long for the upper Arc I believe. Felstead (But without time at top !)
Felsted (aka Felstead) is recorded in the Domesday Book of 1086 as Felesteda, Felstede and Phensteda in the Hundred of Hinckford, where it was held by Earl Ælfgar as feu in the time of King Edward. In 1086, Felstead was part of the land of La Trinité of Caen, who held four hides. The fifth hide was no longer in this manor as King William gave three virgates to Roger God-save-the-ladies and the fourth to Geoffrey fitzSalomon. A hide = 120 acres approx Virgate = quarter Hide
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Post by daniel on Mar 31, 2024 19:08:22 GMT
Martock I had previously shown a modern post office mark here. Shown in the postcard thread, here is one from 1908.
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Post by daniel on Mar 31, 2024 19:16:20 GMT
A nice Bridlington Station Office postmark for 26th August 1914.
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Post by rod222 on Apr 1, 2024 1:48:58 GMT
Martock I had previously shown a modern post office mark here. Shown in the postcard thread, here is one from 1908. MARTOCK That's my country, 7 miles from where I was born, beautiful Somerset. So the card was acceptance of a party, the next day at Long Sutton (4 miles away) Knowle Farm aka Knole Farm ? (Has a registered Waterwheel, cast at Martock) While I was researching, I found the shop in Yeovil, where as a 6yo I would go buy 3 pennies worth of "broken biscuits" and "two woodbines" (Cigarettes) for my Mummy. The Martock Postmark with "coiled rope"? has been a curiosity of mine since 1996 Not sure why or how that design came about. (usage 1996 to 2003 according to my scans)
UPDATE: found a response from Mr Chris Doran (2009) The "Intertwined rope" canceller was steel, and used for anything handed over the counter including parcels, special delivery (registered articles) etc
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