Cape of Good Hope: Stamps, Covers & Postal Stationery

I have merged this thread.

Question Would this whole common wealth forum be better merged into the other forums?

My first purchase ever at a stamp show was an envelope of 300 spacefillers for $20, back in the mid-'80s I would guess.  What a fantastic purchase, filled with stuff I'll never see in my collection otherwise.  Even a £2 Roo (with a great big bite missing out of the corner)!

Ryan

Answer: only 10! The majority of these get a major number listing only for the entire sheet of 20 different designs, the stamps themselves get a minor number listing.

That is a very gentle way of pressurising one to collect blocks, Scott does this with listing untouched gum prices as well.
It is OK if you train to get your head around it.
Steiner's pages give spaces for blocks as well, I am happy to mount singletons in their respective positions.
Blocks were rarely used as such on cover, it just temps you to get the aesthetics right when you are mounting.

If you go down the aesthetics path, good luck to you, centreing will be after you next, as will your expense account.

With your Netherlands perhaps list the major number, and jot next to it "block set of 12 diff" etc
to assist when using the want list.

Hey, a place for this King William's Town hooded cancel.



rod, that's a great album page.

Based on the spacing the hood has to include the word "King" but I don't know whether there is (much of) a space between the words. I'd argue that there is a space, barely, between Williams and Town, but they definitely left out the apostrophe.

Nevertheless, when reading historical accounts, the town is definitely three words, with the apostrophe.

I have some duplicates I haven't looked at in ages, but as far as I recall, this is the only hooded cds I have from the Cape. I spotted it in a small lot of used COGH, and was happy to get it.

There is a smudge there, at least, but I don't think it goes all the way to an apostrophe. Thanks for the other KWT examples. Nice to note...

New sub board has been made rod222 only a year later

1909
Cape of Good Hope "Cigarette Duty" Revenue
addressed here
thestampforum.boards.net/post/36692

Yes you will.

Could be from 1875   (The later style (yours) has no outline frame around the frame.
It could be (Gibbons) #28   P14 wmk crown CC   dec 1875
#43 P14 Crown CA  1st sept 1882
#48a (grey-black?)   P14   wmk anchor  jan 1886

Break out the lighter fluid!

If you've tried to puzzle out the strikes, I'd add my guesses...perhaps Villiers on the ORC (second guess would be Hillside). For the CGH, the first guess would be Cape Town, but I can't match that style with what looks to be a 1902 date, and there are lots of other possibilities, to my eyes.

Chris I only have 28 stamps but they shall go in the future as I am getting a lot of Countries off the map in my future specialized collection.......a taker, maybe ?
René

all by PM please

Identifying Cape of Good Hope Definitives
Scott Design Types A3 and A6

OK, Mick, so how about getting a response to your question after only 4-1/2 years of waiting?  Am I too late? 

I have absolutely no special expertise in this area, but I have been working on COGH lately, so thought I would share some basic info about sorting and identifying these "Seated Hope" issues, which are among the most commonly encountered in collecting COGH stamps.  To start, there are two types of designs, one with and one without a frame line around the stamp.  Personally, I did not find the illustration in the Scott Catalogue to be overly helpful, and I had trouble telling the difference without magnification.

COGH Design Types A3 and A6 image from 2008 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue


COGH, Sc 17, 4-pence blue, Design Type A3 "With Frame Line Around Stamp", Watermark Type 1, Crown over CC (left)
COGH, Sc 27, 4-pence blue, Design Type A6 "Without Frame Line Around Stamp", Watermark Type 1, Crown over CC (right)

Hopefully, the above image illustrates the difference in the two design types better than the Scott Catalogue.  So, Mick, looking at your half-penny gray, it is clearly Design Type A6, without the frame line.  So, yes, to further identify, we will need to look at the watermark, but I found these quite easy to see on these COGH stamps.  There are three possibilities:



So, Mick, back to your half-penny gray stamp.  Here are the possible combinations:

COGH, Sc 23, half-penny gray black, Design A6, Wmk 1 Crown over CC
COGH, Sc 33, half-penny gray black, Design A6, Wmk 2 Crown over CA
COGH, Sc 41, half-penny gray black, Design A6, Wmk 16 Cabled Anchor

If you still have the stamp, Mick, take a look on the back and see if you can spot the watermark.  Then you will be able to nail down the ID of your stamp!

I would like to take a moment to thank Jon (blaamand ) for all the COGH stamps he sent, which have really helped me to learn how to identify these correctly.  Thanks, my friend!

Cape of Good Hope, Sc 1-22
Arranged on Hagner Stock Sheet

My early COGH is pretty meager, but I am hoping to improve on that.  Like many collectors, I am fascinated by the triangles, so I will attempt to put a few more nice ones into the collection.  Here is my initial scan of page 1.  I have a better header in preparation, but using this one for the moment.  Scott numbers and best available identification for all stamps follow below the image.


Page 1: Queen Victoria Era, 1853-1876 (although perhaps oddly, QV is not depicted on any regular COGH postage stamps)
Row 1: Header from an old Scott International album, but this will be replaced with a more interesting one.
Row 3: COGH, Sc 4, 4-pence blue on white paper (SG 6, dealer identification) - Printed by Perkins, Bacon & Co.
Row 4: COGH, Sc 13 & 13a(?), 4-pence blue and 4-pence slate blue (color variety not confirmed) - Printed by De La Rue & Co.
Row 6: COGH, Sc 17, 17a, 18, 19, "Seated Hope" definitives with Frame Line Around Stamp, missing Sc 16 1-penny rose/carmine red

Cape of Good Hope, Sc 55-71
Arranged on Hagner Stock Sheet

Final installment of COGH stamps, with full identification to follow.


Page 3: Queen Victoria & King Edward VII Eras, 1891-1904
Row 1: COGH, Sc 55, 55 unlisted variety 'd' with pointed serif, surcharged "Seated Hope" definitives w/o Frame Line Around Stamp, watermarked Fouled Anchor
Row 2: COGH, Sc 56-57, "Seated Hope" definitives, watermarked Fouled Anchor
Row 3: COGH, Sc 58, surcharged "Seated Hope " definitive, watermarked Fouled Anchor
Row 4: COGH, Sc 59-61, "Standing Hope" definitives, watermarked Fouled Anchor
Row 5: COGH, Sc 62, "Table Mountain & Bay with Coat of Arms" definitive, watermarked Fouled Anchor
Row 7: COGH, Sc 63-67, 1/2-penny to 3-pence, KEVII definitives, watermarked Fouled Anchor
Row 8: COGH, Sc 68-71, 4-pence to 5-shilling, KEVII definitives, watermarked Fouled Anchor