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Post by Jen B on Feb 20, 2014 3:26:02 GMT
Have mercy on us lesser mortals, cjd. Which country?  |
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Post by cjd on Feb 20, 2014 4:19:50 GMT
Whether or not my numbers are right, the stamps are Venezuela. The series has a variety of frame designs, and this frame is not pictured in Scott. That jkjblue is cagey. Assuming my i.d. is close, here is one to try:  |
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Post by stoltzpup on Feb 20, 2014 5:21:03 GMT
Albania j32.
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 20, 2014 5:23:45 GMT
 Correct cjd- your greatest triumph yet.  Venezuela American Bank Note Co. 1915 Scott 263 25c ultramarine "Simon Bolivar", & Waterlow & Sons Ltd. 1924 Scott 276 25c ultramarine. The ABNC issue is perf 12, while the Waterlow is perf 12 1/2. Scott states the designs differ in many minor details which are "too minute for illustration and description". But when I was putting the issues into the album last week, I became familiar with them. The design differences are really not that subtle- Scott should illustrate them. Congratulations again to cjd! |
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Post by cjd on Feb 20, 2014 14:13:38 GMT
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 20, 2014 16:35:52 GMT
 What happened?  |
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Post by cjd on Feb 20, 2014 16:37:19 GMT
This one won't be too bad... provided one knows where to look in Scott...  [click to enlarge] And, Go!
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Post by cjd on Feb 20, 2014 16:40:32 GMT
You'll have to type louder, jkjblue. 358 can't hear you; his ears are on backward.
(Sorry to start a new one over the top of yours...we posted around the same time.)
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 20, 2014 19:15:48 GMT
I suspect the stamp artist was imbibing a little too much weinviertel zweigelt while doing the "ears". Austria 1934 Scott 358 6g ultramarine "Lower Austria" Redrawn- 1935 Scott 372. |
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Post by Jen B on Feb 21, 2014 3:05:10 GMT
This one won't be too bad... provided one knows where to look in Scott... [click to enlarge] And, Go!
Either Switzerland 2O31 (grilled gum) or 2O31a (ordinary gum) for the League of Nations? |
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Post by cjd on Feb 21, 2014 14:19:41 GMT
A laurel wreath for Jen B.
These are issues for the League of Nations, precursor to the United Nations.
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 21, 2014 15:36:39 GMT
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Post by cjd on Feb 21, 2014 17:51:24 GMT
This is one of my least favorite of the colonies to purchase, because even the genuine overprints look dodgy. Here is a number 1 to accompany your number 3  (And I don't mean to imply that this one is genuine. I haven't looked at it carefully...not that that necessarily would help.) |
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Post by stoltzpup on Feb 21, 2014 18:30:44 GMT
Scott Classic Specialized (2013) helpfully indexes "A&T overprint." And the #1 they show doesn't look much like yours, but they say there are many types of numbers and letters. While we're on the topic of world-wide use of French stamps, here's a pair that puzzled me a while until jkjblue helped me out a few months ago. What's the difference between the two?  |
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 21, 2014 19:44:52 GMT
cjd-Of course you have it.  1886 Indochina MapAnnam & Tonkin was a French Protectorate, and six stamps were produced in 1888 with black surcharged handstamps on 1881-86 French Colonies issues. They were superseded in 1892 by those of Indochina. The handstamps are very primitive indeed. |
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Post by cjd on Feb 21, 2014 22:52:20 GMT
Here is one with a relatively nice sock on the nose:  |
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 22, 2014 15:19:53 GMT
 ? Here's one for the weekend. Enjoy. |
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Post by cjd on Feb 22, 2014 23:01:11 GMT
One of the notable examples for the dagger-on-stamp topical collector. Anyone?
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Post by rod222 on Feb 23, 2014 0:16:25 GMT
One of the notable examples for the dagger-on-stamp topical collector. Anyone? Dagger on stamps, you say? well it can be only one of two Alwar or Nawanagar |
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 23, 2014 0:49:23 GMT
It is neither one of those. |
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Post by 1840to1940 on Feb 23, 2014 1:10:25 GMT
How about Bundi for the dagger stamp?
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 23, 2014 2:18:38 GMT
You got it 1840 to 1940 ( Bob) ! Bundi 1A I believe. The Dagger goes to you. |
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Post by rod222 on Feb 23, 2014 5:36:19 GMT
It is neither one of those. Wow! I always relate Bundi to the Sacred Cows. I stand corrected  |
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Post by stoltzpup on Feb 24, 2014 2:09:51 GMT
Here's a pair that puzzled me a while until jkjblue helped me out a few months ago. What's the difference between the two? Hummmmm. No guesses? I think the clue lies in the cancellations. |
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 24, 2014 12:52:38 GMT
Stoltzpup- I can't answer because I already gave an opinion.  ? |
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Post by cjd on Feb 24, 2014 14:13:51 GMT
stoltzpup, I missed your post earlier. I'd guess you have French Colonies on the left, and France on the right.
A grille cancel on anything other than the first Ceres issues is worth investigating.
By the time the Ceres Colonies stamps were issued, the grille cancel was long gone.
I'm guessing your stamp on the left has a Saigon cds.
Am I close to what you and jkjblue worked up?
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Post by cjd on Feb 24, 2014 14:34:06 GMT
jkjblue, you've been kind in your selection.
Though these overprints might be daunting, everything someone needs to identify this according to Scott is found in the fifth line.
SG notes that these were printed by Dollard, and that most values have an overprint color variety of greyish-black, including this 1d. SG goes on to say that "these are difficult to distinguish."
No kidding.
Nevertheless, if you have a few of them, it can't hurt to see if any of them look a little different from the rest. A little less "black" I suppose. It is a note at the end of the listings, so no separate number or value are given.
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Post by stoltzpup on Feb 24, 2014 14:36:33 GMT
Am I close to what you and jkjblue worked up? Yep. Same opinion. I've investigated Saigon cancels somewhat, but have not found any comparable before the 1890s. I suppose the stamp could have been used at that late date, but I'd like to see an earlier example. |
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Post by jkjblue on Feb 24, 2014 15:00:45 GMT
You are right again cjd. This is a 1922 February 17 issue Ireland Scott 2 1p scarlet. It has no period after "1922". (unlike this sentence ;-) For those that are trying to sort out these difficult overprints (Myself included!)..... * Careful measurement of the size of the overprint is helpful. * A few distinguishing characteristics - like the lack of a period here- but these distinguishing characteristics are unfortunately in the minority. * Examine the overprint under natural daylight, and note color (gray black, black, blue) and whether dull or glossy. May the luck of the Irish be with you! |
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Post by cjd on Feb 24, 2014 15:46:45 GMT
stoltzpup, I think you'd be most likely to find the CCH lozenge on stamps used for Saigon (Cochin-China) mail up to 1876, and circular date stamps thereafter. I know you'll see cancels with COCHINCHINE in the top arc and SAIGON in the bottom arc, but I feel pretty sure that I have a few older Saigon cancels with SAIGON in the top arc...I'll have to make a point to look for them.
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