therealwesty
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Post by therealwesty on Mar 16, 2014 12:56:11 GMT
Lets make a showcase for our Canadian Postal History collections. I want to see your Classic Stamps on cover, anything between 1851 and 1951. Bonus points for single/proper usage and interesting cancels! I'll start with my latest acquisition; Here's a F-VF #15 5¢ Beaver with a PETERBORO C.W Berri duplex. The broken circle is a type A6 dated DE 19 65. This is my oldest hometown cover with an adhesive postage stamp on it. Single usage of the stamp is prepaying the domestic rate at the time. Here's a better look at the stamp and cancel; All in all this turned out be an interesting little piece The cross writing over the address seems to be in context with the cover as well. The letter had been addressed to the firm of Messrs. Smith & Wood, Barristers in Toronto. The cross writing appears to start with a name and date, which is close to the postmark date, then proceeds with a list of legal sounding items. Here's my best take on the old cursive so far; G.F. O?de 16/20 Deb/65 (1./ Capels vs Hilton (2./ ??re atwood Saturday Aug DKV (I am guessing at an abbreviation for Saturday) Fee 87 ---------- So lets see what you have!
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 16, 2014 19:19:17 GMT
I have parted company with my covers.Others here can show them,now.There was no way to display or care for them so they went up for adoption.
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Post by I.L.S. on Mar 17, 2014 10:01:26 GMT
I have parted company with my covers.Others here can show them,now.There was no way to display or care for them so they went up for adoption. GASP! Where was I when all this happened??
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 17, 2014 14:12:36 GMT
It started with a #17 on cover and went from there Jeff.I'm a bit glad as I now have room for newer interests.Every one was included in donation auctions so they served the cause well.I only retained three or four that have unusual varieties like the plate # regiment block or "red eyed" bison.
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Post by rogo on Mar 23, 2014 21:12:50 GMT
I have parted company with my covers.Others here can show them,now.There was no way to display or care for them so they went up for adoption. GASP! Where was I when all this happened?? NO KIDDING !!!
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therealwesty
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Post by therealwesty on Mar 26, 2014 13:10:02 GMT
Here's another sample from my collection of Peterborough postal history. This example shows a simple cross styled fancy cancel obliterating a 3¢ Small Queen, probably a #41. The CDS is a bit smudged, but we see a type D1 broken circle. The cover is back-stamped received in Toronto dated March 18, 1878. Picked up this cover more for the fancy cancel than the date stamp. Frog, just as a note, my covers are stored and displayed in Vario pages and in a Lighthouse Vario-F sized binder. I use the standard black sheets typically in the 2 or 3 row configuration giving me 4-6 covers per sheet. Some covers warrant displaying the reverse, so then I use the 2 or 3 row clear pages, but obviously only getting 2-3 covers per page. All in all the system works well, the binder lays flat for easy viewing and study and allows easy insertion of pages so I don't have to reorganize everything to accommodate new pieces. The down side is the Vario pages aren't cheap, but it doesn't seem any method of storing this stuff is anyway.
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Post by jimjung on Jun 1, 2015 1:40:21 GMT
I can try to revive this thread for you as I have a great interest in Early Canada Postal History and Worldwide covers in general. This is an interesting cover sent from Clifton CW dated NOV 16 1868 to Synden. Now Synden is not a real town so the MISSENT - TO hs was applied and Try Lynden was written on the cover. Aside from the handstruck, you may notice that the date is well into the Large Queen period so the 5c Beaver was used out of period. The Large Queens were issued on April 1, 1868.
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Post by Admin on Nov 15, 2015 18:54:43 GMT
King Edward VII Unitrade 89 & 91 registered letter. I came across this while sorting some items to auction on eBay. I thought it was rather interesting with the Train Cancel. It has the train number would this be a RPO Cancel? Winnipeg to Toronto Then Berlin (now Kitchener)
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Nov 15, 2015 22:10:14 GMT
It has the train number would this be a RPO Cancel? That cancellation is listed in Shaw's catalogue for RPO postmarks as # O-225, with a rarity factor of 50. Ryan
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Post by Admin on Nov 15, 2015 22:23:25 GMT
It has the train number would this be a RPO Cancel? That cancellation is listed in Shaw's catalogue for RPO postmarks as # O-225, with a rarity factor of 50. Ryan Is a factor of 50 uncommon?
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Nov 16, 2015 0:40:32 GMT
It means that a stamp (or cover, I suppose) cancelled with a complete and readable cancellation is worth 50 times as much as just the stamp (or cover) with a normal cancellation. In relative terms, it's in the middle - real common RPO cancellations might only have a rarity factor of 5 - rare ones are 150 or more.
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Post by Admin on Nov 16, 2015 0:48:19 GMT
Thanks Ryan. I would keep the cover but its just to dam big. I will let someone else be the caretaker for it.
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Post by jimjung on Nov 16, 2015 11:28:13 GMT
Here are a couple of big covers from my collection that I like. #14: 1¢ Rose, seven single copies of the 1c Decimal Issue (one copy missing) tied by oval grids to each other and to a large piece (possibly a newspaper wrapper) to Fredericton, N.B. Almost complete and very rare INSUFFICIENTLY PREPAID handstamp. In the top row, there are three different shades of the 1c from pale to dark Rose.
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Post by jimjung on Nov 16, 2015 11:31:36 GMT
Another large cover from the Large Queen period. #24,v: 2¢ green strip of five and single, all tied by targets to each other and multiply franked large REGISTERED cover from Berwick MR 8 1872 to Lindsay with PORT-HOPE transit dated MR 12 72 and LINDSAY receiver dated MR 12 72 on back, the second stamp from the right edge is the MAJOR RE-ENTRY at plate position 7, some toning around stamp perfs and cover edges plus the usual cover faults found on such large letters, a VERY RARE USAGE of the VARIETY on cover. The largest recorded multiple of the 2c on cover is a Block of Six (Duckworth’s Page 84) A closeup of the re-entry on the 2c at position 7 - most noticeable in the D of CANADA.
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Post by jamesw on Apr 4, 2016 2:36:42 GMT
Picked up a pile of Canada and US covers at Toronto's semi annual Old Book and Paper Show today. No major discoveries but a few nice pieces to show off over the next couple of days. I'll add these covers here and hopefully revive this thread. 1¢ small Queen (SC#35) on a circular sent from the Provincial Secretary's Office in December 1877. No CDS but a nice grill obliterator. This little cross border cover uses six 1/2¢ Small Queens to cover the 3¢ postage rate to Maine in 1893. There are back cancels from Augusta Maine (transit) and Manchester Maine (receiver).
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Post by BC on Apr 5, 2016 4:48:33 GMT
James, the 1/2c x 6 is a real nice cover.
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Post by jimjung on Apr 5, 2016 10:00:12 GMT
jamesw, both nice. I like to look for re-entries in the 1/2c SQ as there are many. Note that the 1c has a earlier killer cancel but the 1890's brought in the use of the dated cancel to postmark the stamps. Prior to the 1890's, the instruction was not to use a dated cancel on the stamps.
The 1c Printed Matter rate was scarce, not as much in the SQ's as the LQ's and before but still scarce. Collectors like to collect them for the item rather than the stamp or usage. And that one looks like a nice document rather than just a Prices Current so it would have more value than the other cover.
From what I could find, Harton Walker was a Philatelist and Joseph Augustin Labadie was a Notary Clerk.
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Post by jamesw on May 10, 2016 2:47:18 GMT
Just rediscovered this thread. Thats where I put that cover with the six 1/2¢ small queens! I just posted on it's own thread that cover and it's new home/album page. My discovery of Mr Walker was that he was a real estate agent and developer in Toronto. Saw no mention of him as a philatelist. Very interesting bit of additional info.
edit - Jinkies, jimjung! He wasn't just a philatelist, he was American Philatelic Association (later Society) members (shareholder) #820, as well as Vice President of the Toronto Philatelic Club. Guess I'll be needing to revise the album page. That's too cool to leave out.
edit again - And, following your lead, I discover Mr J.W. Sampson, the recipient, was a frequent contributor to the American Philatelist and a later Trustee of the Association.
Just when you think you're done.
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Post by brightonpete on Jul 14, 2018 15:59:50 GMT
I was going to post this in postmark of the day thread, but think it is more pertinent here. It is a 1st flight cover posted on September 15th, 1932 with a block of 8 x 1¢ (Scott/Unitrade #162). A commemorative rubber stamp was made up for this flight from Pascalis to Siscoe, Quebec. The flight was quite possibly from a fishing camp on Lac (Lake) Endormi to Siscoe (Ile Siscoe?) on Lac De Montigny, adjacent to Val D'or. It was all of about 35 or so kilometres, so it wouldn't have taken long to fly, or drive for that matter! On checking records, the Pascalis Post Office also opened the same day - first flight, first day of ops. It was possibly located in a town called Louvicourt. There is no town of Pascalis in Quebec now, at least that I can find.. The post office then closed 3 years later due to lack of usefulness, then re-opened again in '39 to '44, when it was permanently closed. It would be interesting to see if there are any other Pascalis cancellations or first flight covers out there. There has to be!
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renden
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Post by renden on Jul 14, 2018 16:50:54 GMT
This is a nice cover (since I like it !) JA 21 1883 Winnipeg to New Brunswick.......duplex cancel René
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Post by renden on Jul 14, 2018 17:00:04 GMT
Another Canadian cover dated Fe 21 '91, Ottawa to Toronto, Ontario. Note the Ottawa Duplex cancel with "1" in middle of bars. Also this 3 cent small Queen has undergone some changeling (color). René
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Post by renden on Jul 14, 2018 18:18:19 GMT
Another cover from New Brunswick. From St. John, N.B., dated SP 20 78 to Carleton County, N.B.(Received in Woodstock, N.B. SP 21 78 as stamped on back cover (not scanned) Note the Fancy cancel on this one. René
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Post by renden on Jul 14, 2018 18:29:41 GMT
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Post by renden on Jul 14, 2018 18:41:05 GMT
My final Canada cover for the day Duplex cancel from this JU 30 1873 mailed from Halifax NS to Cape Breton NS with a 3 c Sc 37B stamp (SQ)
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Post by jamesw on Jul 14, 2018 21:51:32 GMT
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Post by jimjung on Jul 15, 2018 12:15:46 GMT
This one is just nice because it has the extra "1" rate handstamp for the Printed Matter rate.
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Post by jimjung on Jul 15, 2018 12:33:52 GMT
This one is a spectacular cover. It is a triple rate Registered domestic cover paying the 15c in stamps and the 2c Registration fee in cash. The stamp at the left is the "Log in Waterfall" variety and is centered Very Fine. Then a little history on the backstamp of ST. VINCENT. This is the original name of the MEAFORD Post Office and this handstamp predates the renaming of the Post Office to Meaford in 1865.
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Post by watermark on Aug 2, 2018 18:48:39 GMT
Here is a nice cover from 1863 with #17 from position 97. The lower right corner has a retouch that was later repaired and is only found on the first state of the plate.
Here is a good look at the stamp:
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Post by renden on Aug 2, 2018 20:48:35 GMT
Very nice indeed !! watermark
René
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Post by renden on Aug 7, 2018 16:30:54 GMT
CANADA 15 5c vermillion on cover from NIAGARA tied by moderate target with "NIAGARA JY 25/64 C.W." split ring cancel. "TORONTO JY 25/64 C.W. split ring backstamp. René btw.....not as nice as jimjung's !!!
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