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Post by mark on Jul 11, 2014 17:10:10 GMT
Things have been slow for the past week. Then this 2 cent Nebraska came along. Yes, its an unofficial FDC from Beatrice Neb but its a rather well known one. Frank Herget covers are well known in this era. What I particularly like about this one is that the postage rate is correct and that it actually went through the mails. Only this and one with 2 one cent stamps would have proper postage for regular mail.
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Post by mark on Jul 11, 2014 17:28:53 GMT
The EBAY seller is only asking $19.99 for this cover. He hypes it in his ad by noting that similar covers online go for as high as $100, For my collection, this cover has nothing going for it. The postage is wrong, the origin is out of state and so is the destination (so I didn't buy it). I recently checked my Scott Specialized catalog and noticed that the Airmail rates are listed in the front section just following the regular mail rates. Back on July 6, 1932 the rate was raised from 5 cents to 8 cents for 1 ounce and 13 cents for each additional ounce. While this is late for the Kans - Neb issue (the Wash. bicents. had taken over as regular issues), finding a K-N cover with 8 cents or 21 cents postage would be quite rare. I'm not sure why the rates went up so much but I suspect the Great Depression had something to do with it. They came back down to 6 cents per oz. on July 1, 1934. Anyone know why?
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Post by Zuzu on Jul 12, 2014 4:25:26 GMT
Yes, its an unofficial FDC from Beatrice Neb... Ahh, Beatrice. Pronounced "be- AT-triss" with all emphasis on the second syllable. Unless you're a member of my family, in which case it's "BEET-rice" (also used as an affectionately teasing nickname a'la "goofball").
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Post by I.L.S. on Jul 12, 2014 8:15:16 GMT
WOW! You have some beautiful material in your collection Mark! I hope my collection will be half as nice as yours someday! Thank you so very much for your time and effort in showing this stuff to us! Sincerely- Jeff
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Post by mark on Jul 13, 2014 22:22:12 GMT
In the southeast corner of Nebraska, about halfway between Beatrice and the Missouri border, lies the town of Tecumseh. Long before the interstate highway system was built, people in Tecumseh relied on transportation other than automobiles to get around. North of Tecumseh is the capitol city of Lincoln. To the south is Atchison and Topeka in Kansas and quite a ways to the southwest is Santa Fe, New Mexico. Popularized in a song by Judy Garland (before my time), these towns were all accessible to the folks in Tecumseh via a railway system that crossed the Nation. Mails were moved by rail starting way back in 1830. Mobile post offices were installed in railroad cars to connect towns via the mails and to process the mails in route. Today I've added the following Railway Post Office, or RPO, cover to the collection. A receiving mark on the back indicates it arrived at Grand Central Station in NYC on Aug 20, 1930. Three days travel across half the country. It was only $3.75 on EBAY, including shipping
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Post by Zuzu on Jul 14, 2014 2:55:43 GMT
That's an awesome cover!
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Post by I.L.S. on Jul 14, 2014 11:22:53 GMT
Yeah it is!...more more!!!
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Post by mark on Jul 16, 2014 16:44:59 GMT
This cover has Kansas written all over it. Six times, in fact. (Try to find them all if you want. I'll give the locations tomorrow.) I already have several covers with Scott 660 but the seller on Ebay was named likeitbuyit and, for only $5, I liked it so I bought it. I decided to look up the Kansas Federation of Women's Clubs on the internet, now known as the Greater Federation of Women's Clubs of Kansas. Formed in 1881, this organization has been involved in building libraries, educating children through scholarship programs, promoting the arts, helping returning veterans of foreign wars, and fighting disease and poverty. In researching 1847 issue covers (my other Postal History passion) I am saddened about how difficult it is to find out about the lives of women. Books, written in the late 1800s, cover the history of most towns and cities in the United States, making it easy to research the professional and political lives of men but telling very little about women, except who they married and how many children they had. By the 1920's women were organizing and participating in the building of America to the benefit of us all. These women were true American heroes and it's great to have a reminder of this in the collection.
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Post by mark on Jul 17, 2014 17:59:55 GMT
Kansas appears 6 times on the illustrated cover: 1. Return address - "Kansas" Federation of Women's Clibs 2. Return address - Wilson, "Kansas" 3. Address - Fourth district, "K(ansas)" F(ederation of) W(omen's) C(lubs) 4. Address - Peabody, "Kansas" 5. Postmark - Wilson, "Hansas" (faint) 6. And, of course, the overprint on the stamp. I haven't decided whether to buy the next cover It is kind of pricy; about $30 including shipping. but it has some nice things going for it. First of all, the postage is not an overpayment. First class mail increased from 2c to 3c on July 6, 1932 with the promise that it would go back down on July 1, 1834. The decrease did not happen and the rate stayed at 3 cents into the 1950s. Second, the April 1933 usage is rather late for this series. The flag cancel is also very nicely applied. Finally, Burwell is a very small town in central Nebraska with a 2010 population around 1200. The hotel corner advertisement does make sense because ever year since 1921 Burwell has had hundreds of visitors in late July when the town hosts its annual rodeo, billed as Nebraska's BIG Rodeo. The promise of running water in the dusty summer in central Nebraska was probably worth the extra $1, even in the economically tough days of the Great Depression (The process of doing the write-up convinced me to add this cover to the collection but it may turn out to be far more costly than I imagined. When I showed it to my wife and explained a bit about the town, her response was "Rodeo? Let's go!")
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Post by Zuzu on Jul 18, 2014 3:00:00 GMT
GI, my home town! Here's the house to which that cover was sent:
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Post by mark on Jul 18, 2014 5:21:01 GMT
Zuzu, It's clear that the thread has touched you in a very personal way. This is what stamp collecting should do more often. Receiving letters, especially back before computers and instant messaging, was a very personal way of hearing from friends and loved ones. One can only imagine what the letter said. Perhaps "Dear Mom, Dad and I are having a great time at the Rodeo ..." Collecting Postal History certainly brings the human element back into the hobby. I can almost see the woman at the door receiving the letter from the carrier. Nice screen shot from the street view of Google Earth (I assume)!
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Post by mark on Jul 18, 2014 16:55:26 GMT
Today I found this cover on EBAY for only $6, including shipping. Yet another Scott 660 2c letter from Kansas. This one was sent from Salina, a town I did not yet have. What makes this cover so nice is the auxiliary marking "Return to Writer." The rubber stamped marking is a bit hard to read so I may have to do a little research to identify the cause for the undelivered mail. The Auxiliary Markings Club does this kind or research and issues a quarterly newsletter but back issues are available online for members only. I should be able to track it down during my next visit to the American Philatelic Research Library. One can only speculate what happened to Mr. Scott. 1930 was a hard year for Americans with many people getting thrown out of work and losing their homes. Kansas was, and is, a strong farming state so the Great Depression would have had a lesser toll on its citizens. As the illustration in the lower left hand corner states, "Kansas grows the best wheat in the world." For many reasons, this is a nice cover to add to the collection.
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Post by rod222 on Jul 18, 2014 23:38:25 GMT
The rubber stamped marking is a bit hard to read so I may have to do a little research to identify the cause for the undelivered mail. The Auxiliary Markings Club does this kind or research and issues a quarterly newsletter but back issues are available online for members only. I should be able to track it down during my next visit to the American Philatelic Research Library. One can only speculate what happened to Mr. Scott. 1930 was a hard year for Americans with many people getting thrown out of work and losing their homes. Kansas was, and is, a strong farming state so the Great Depression would have had a lesser toll on its citizens. As the illustration in the lower left hand corner states, "Kansas grows the best wheat in the world." For many reasons, this is a nice cover to add to the collection. The cause was "Unclaimed"
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Post by Jen B on Jul 19, 2014 2:21:52 GMT
One can only speculate what happened to Mr. Scott. 1930 was a hard year for Americans with many people getting thrown out of work and losing their homes. Kansas was, and is, a strong farming state so the Great Depression would have had a lesser toll on its citizens. As the illustration in the lower left hand corner states, "Kansas grows the best wheat in the world." For many reasons, this is a nice cover to add to the collection. Unfortunately, if Mr. Scott was a farmer in Kansas during the 30s, he probably wasn't growing too much of anything other than dust. My mom grew up on a farm on the Great Plains during the "dirty 30s" (or the dustbowl). To hear her tell it, all of their crops failed and they had to survive on government shipments of food. And, if a dust storm blew up while the food was being put on the table, they had to eat it anyway. Dust and all.
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Post by mark on Jul 19, 2014 3:34:03 GMT
Hi Jen, 1930 was a bit early for the dust bowl. The 1920's were unusually wet and farming greatly expanded in Kansas, particularly as the state was settled by returning veterans from WWI and the Homestead Act was modified to increase the size of free land farms. The droughts got underway in 1931 and, by 1934, the dust bowl was destroying farms in the Plains.
I found a reference to a Fred Scott in 1931, as the 71 year old publisher of the Argonia Argosy, a small newspaper. Argonia is southeast of Hoisington in central Kansas. On today's roads, which predominantly run NS and EW, the distance between them is 137 miles but by horseback, oxen or mule, a more direct route across the Plains would have been around 100 miles. Still much too far for a daily commute. If it's the same Fred Scott that the letter was addressed to, he simply moved away from Hoisington.
Rod222, Thanks for interpreting the handstamp. I should have realized it was held at the Post Office since there was no street address on the cover. Hoisington started Rural Free Delivery in 1904 so, presumably, Mr. Scott lived and worked in town rather than on a farm. That would support the idea that he was a newspaper publisher but it may prove very difficult to follow this up. Perhaps the original letter is still with the envelope. If so, I will report its contents when it arrives from the EBAY seller. More likely, the lawyer would have destroyed the contents when the letter was returned. (Still, he kept the envelope, so who knows?)
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Post by mark on Jul 21, 2014 2:22:10 GMT
On an earlier cover (on page 3) I posted a (not bought) 6c Garfield Kans overprint on an out of state cover paying the 5c Airmail rate. I mentioned that finding a Kansas or Nebraska stamp on an 8 cent air mail cover mailed after July 5, 1932 would be rare because the stamps, printed for a 1 year supply, would have been in circulation for over 3 years and the series was pretty much put out of use by the Washington Bicentennials issued on Jan. 1, 1932. Then this cover came up for sale on EBAY. For $5.98, including shipping, it's a great add to the collection. The 1 cent stamp (658) is nicely socked-on-the-nose so this would be a great stamp off cover, too. Frank Specialty Company in Milwaukee was a wholesaler in dry goods. I found one of their promotional items on EBAY - a 1947 set of 6 blotters with a calendar on the cover. I had no luck yet finding anything about T. F. Porter & Co. except that Thomas F. Porter, Class of 1899, was a Trustee of Kansas Wesleyan University in Salina in 1930.
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Post by mark on Jul 30, 2014 5:28:05 GMT
Not much happening this week. I found a few very nice covers that really got me going until I realized that they were all out-of-state- usages. One was a registration cover with 2 four cent Martha Washington from Kansas (#662), an 8 cent from the 1902 series and a 1 cent Franklin w/o overprint to make up the 17 cent registration rate. Unfortunately it was mailed from Pennsylvania. The second cover had 2 8c Grants (#666), a 2 cent red and a 1 cent Franklin (#658) on a registration cover from Connecticut. Finally, tonight, were 2 8 cent airmail covers from 1934! The one with the Kans stamp (#666) was mailed from Wyoming. The 8 cent Nebr stamp (#677)was mailed from Louisiana. None of these are going to be added to the collection. Here is the Kansas overprint 8c airmail cover. A real shame to have to let this one go by.
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Post by mark on Jul 30, 2014 5:34:20 GMT
I did pick up a nice 658 usage on a postcard mailed from Lawrence Kansas. $7 on EBAY using Buy it Now. The picture postcard features the entrance gate at the stadium at Haskell College in Lawrence. The card was mailed from Lawrence to someone in Scranton, Kansas. A very nice completely Kansas usage.
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Post by mark on Sept 17, 2014 16:49:42 GMT
I ran across some make up rate covers that I'd like to share. The 1st class postage rate changed from 2c to 3c on July 1, 1932. By this time the 4th Bureau stamps, and overprints, had been replaced by the Washington Bicentennials and some 2c commemorative stamps, known collective as the 2 cent reds. So, as today, the lower value stamps were used to make up the new rate. This led to some interesting mixed franking covers. This one is quite interesting. The one cent postal stationary cover was revalued to 1 1/2 cents and then a 1 1/2 cent Nebr was added to make up the 3 cent rate. The cover was mailed from Bradshaw, Nebraska to Pennsylvania in 1933.
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Post by mark on Sept 17, 2014 16:56:28 GMT
Here's a second example; this time from Kansas. The cover was mailed on 9/23/1932 and received a day later. Very fast delivery.
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Post by mark on Sept 28, 2014 5:21:07 GMT
Here's a third example using postal stationary. In this case a registered letter was mailed from Elkhart, Kansas to Dodge City, Kansas. The backstamps indicate the letter was mailed on July 14, 1930 and received on July 16th. The postage was made up with two copies of 667, the 9c Jefferson overprint stamp. I am now up to 14 of the 22 different stamps.
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Post by mark on Sept 29, 2014 22:00:15 GMT
The rate change from 2 cents to 3 cents occurred on July 1, 1932. This was about 10 weeks after the release of the Washington Bicentennials so mixed covers should be fairly commmon. Here is one from Medicine Lodge, Kansas.
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Post by mark on Sept 29, 2014 22:17:09 GMT
Here is another with a mixed franking mailed in 1933 using the Winter Olympics 2 cent red honoring the games in Lake Placid, NY. Notice the return address on this cover and the addressee on the previous one. There was a clear relationship between the senders of the two covers. Given the number of covers I have seen mailed to Mr conkey, I suspect a group of men were mailing each other covers showing various stamp usages, postmarks, etc. Kind of like texting or emailing today. I hope they didn't get into trouble. During the Great Depression would have been a tough time to lose your job playing with your hobby on company time (or, at least using company office supplies for personal use.
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Post by rod222 on Sept 29, 2014 23:32:04 GMT
Here is another with a mixed franking mailed in 1933 using the Winter Olympics 2 cent red honoring the games in Lake Placid, NY. Notice the return address on this cover and the addressee on the previous one. There was a clear relationship between the senders of the two covers. Given the number of covers I have seen mailed to Mr conkey, I suspect a group of men were mailing each other covers showing various stamp usages, postmarks, etc. Kind of like texting or emailing today. I hope they didn't get into trouble. During the Great Depression would have been a tough time to lose your job playing with your hobby on company time (or, at least using company office supplies for personal use. One party, being an attorney, personally I would well imagine the covers used genuinely and professionally. The covers do not look philatelically inspired to me.
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Post by rod222 on Nov 12, 2014 0:04:07 GMT
I probably need to worry about fake overprints, too since another site claimed that about 60% of the used stamps are fakes. Do you have tips on how to spot used fakes? Mint stamps are easy to figure out by counting the gum breaker ridges on the back, but what do you do for used stamps? I can probably spot typewriter fakes, but beyond that I wouldn't have much of an idea. Ryan This may assist. Ran across this on the web.
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Post by JeffS on Sept 11, 2023 20:45:31 GMT
One of my favorite closet collections is the subject of Business Reply Mail (BRM). And I was more than happy to acquire this cover which I noticed was franked in part with a 1-cent Fourth Bureau Nebr. overprint which went unnoticed by the seller.
The postage on this cover accounts for 2-cents postage due for a first class letter plus 1-cent for the BRM fee,
Although the stamps went on sale at the Philatelic Sales Agency in Washington on May 1, 1929, known use in Kansas and Nebraska occurred as early as April 15.
The cover is posted from Alvo Nebraska to Crete Nebraska, June 18 1930.
I suspect the Crete postmaster was trying to use up his Nebr. overprinted stamps as I understand accounting for them in post office inventories required extra effort, and this was nearing the end of this overprint experiment.
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