firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 18, 2018 1:37:21 GMT
Let me check Friday I have that little job to knock out tomorrow(just a short culvert run).Of course it's going to be the first day of cold not expected to hit 40 and windy to boot.I will hit the post office Friday and mail Brightonpete's stuff.I just may have a second copy,been known to harbor extras.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 18, 2018 1:50:43 GMT
One of my pet peeves is the skipping of #121 !! Come on it was a known fact there were no others in the set. Why in the name of heavens would a logical person skip a number in the middle of a set? And we thought logic left with the millennials? No it left long ago.
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Post by brightonpete on Oct 18, 2018 13:42:34 GMT
Here are my two 122's. 122 is M almost never hinged. |
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Post by renden on Oct 18, 2018 13:55:37 GMT
brightonpete beautiful examples of dry and wet printings - thanks René
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 19, 2018 18:56:56 GMT
renden I checked my extras of #122 I do have two extra copies both hinged but f-vf if you would like one of them I'll send it to you.That's why I hang on to the extras.
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Post by renden on Oct 19, 2018 22:36:15 GMT
renden I checked my extras of #122 I do have two extra copies both hinged but f-vf if you would like one of them I'll send it to you.That's why I hang on to the extras. Thanks firstfrog2015.....better than what I have - your offer ?? René will pm my coordinates....... |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 19, 2018 23:12:00 GMT
As usual to our members here NO CHARGE renden.Glad to help.
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Post by renden on Oct 20, 2018 1:40:04 GMT
As usual to our members here NO CHARGE renden.Glad to help. Thanks firstfrog2013  René |
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Post by renden on Jan 29, 2021 19:39:39 GMT
Redoing my Admirals today I found a particular Postmark. This is a Petit Sault (Little Falls), New Brunswick, dated Au 18 1931 on a 3¢ Admiral Carmine. The particular is not the Die type or any shade which would be different. The name Petit Sault applied to my Town, Edmundston, and was the name of our City until its change of name and name of Post Office. In Campbell's book, Canada Post Offices, page 91, one sees Little Falls (or Petit Sault in French) with a change of name in 1850 to Edmundston. Now who cancelled this stamp in 1931 (3¢ Admiral was issued in 1923) with an old cancel bearing the name of Petit-Sault. Have not found the answer, unusual however that it would be used in 1931 !! No other such name appears in Canada's Post Offices, to my knowledge.   |
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Post by stanley64 on Jan 29, 2021 20:29:16 GMT
Hmmm, according to the Library and Archives of Canada René ( renden ), there was Post Office named "Petit Sault" that was later changed to Edmundston, Date of Change: '1938-05-16'
The plot thickens...
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Post by renden on Jan 30, 2021 1:18:29 GMT
Hmmm, according to the Library and Archives of Canada René ( renden ), there was Post Office named "Petit Sault" that was later changed to Edmundston, Date of Change: '1938-05-16'
The plot thickens...
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Very interesting, Vince - This P.O. does not exist presently. Now what and when, I do not know as the Edmundston P.O. had its main building corner of Church and Canada Road. It could have been a branch, but I am impressed they had their own "cancel" (Petit Sault was not in use as the name of the City then) - More research...... and thanks for your interest !!! René |
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Post by WERT on Jan 30, 2021 1:40:28 GMT
stanley64..Rene is correct about "petit Sault" Robert
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Post by stanley64 on Jan 30, 2021 11:09:44 GMT
Wait, but what?
From your cut & paste Robert ( WERT ) of item n.º 25376 it is unclear, what is René ( renden ) correct about? Please do share...
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Post by WERT on Jan 30, 2021 13:35:51 GMT
Rene is saying the P.O. changed from Restigouche district to City of Edmunston 1938-5-16 and was located on the corner of Victoria Street and Power Road in 1930-05-16.
Robert
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Post by renden on Feb 18, 2021 20:07:24 GMT
 Redoing my Admirals today (that was Jan 29) I found a particular Postmark. This is a Petit Sault (Little Falls), New Brunswick, dated Au 18 1931 on a 3¢ Admiral Carmine. The particular is not the Die type or any shade which would be different. The name Petit Sault applied to my Town, Edmundston, and was the name of our City until its change of name and name of Post Office. In Campbell's book, Canada Post Offices, page 91, one sees Little Falls (or Petit Sault in French) with a change of name in 1850 to Edmundston. Government of Canada Post Offices/Postmasters Archives were again researched -Little Falls (Petit Sault) was established in 1849 and changed to Edmundston in 1851. Going through various names of Post Offices since 1851, I did find one named Petit-Sault, in 1930, as a Sub. PostMaster at a different location in the City of Edmundston. This P.O. branch was situated in the Eastern Edmundston and was closed after 15 years of existence. Now who cancelled this stamp in 1931 (3¢ Admiral was issued in 1923) with an old cancel bearing the name of Petit-Sault ? This morning I checked at the local P.O. and one of clerk remembers the office in question - More research will follow on the "cancel" Petit-Sault used in 1931 by that particular P.O. in Edmundston I know we will never find the "cancel" itself but it is highly probable that the P.O. in question had its own Petit Sault cancel at the time- used on this stamp.
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Post by renden on Feb 18, 2021 21:11:37 GMT
Rene is saying the P.O. changed from Restigouche district to City of Edmunston 1938-5-16 and was located on the corner of Victoria Street and Power Road in 1930-05-16. Robert You are correct, Robert ( WERT) - That branch P.O. was Petit Sault and I do not know why - Archives Canada does not explain but at least it is here for a few years with the cancel Petit Sault other cancels in Edmundston:   and I am trying to get them delete their ugly cancel and replace it with a decent one - my project !! Thanks |
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Post by jamesw on Nov 18, 2021 8:37:23 GMT
Revisiting this Admiral thread. Recently won a couple of lots of mint Canadian. A bunch of it will become postage, but some of the classics will fill holes and help to upgrade some of my Canadian mint collection. This mint NH 50¢ SC#120 was certainly the hi-light of the group. With a redrawn spandrel, I believe it to be a 1925 dry printing (there's no shrinkage)  |
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Post by jamesw on Nov 18, 2021 8:48:03 GMT
Another Admiral from the recently won auction lot. This 2¢ carmine unused NG puzzled me with its three straight edges.  I wondered why anyone would trim the edges so carefully. But I checked my Marler's Admiral Issue of Canada book (the bible mentioned earlier in this thread) and found this paragraph. "The author found several stamps with the top imperforate, and concluded that in making up the rolls from this plate the printed sheets were trimmed close to the top row subjects, so that the pasteups could be over the bottom margin of the sheet in which there was no inscription." So my conclusion, based on this passage, is that this little stamp was destined to be part of coil a pasteup, but probably never made it. The entire stamp is very clean. The back is un-gummed but shows no sign of ever being hinged or pasted. There is some horizontal shrinkage, so I believe this to be a wet printing, which possibly was never gummed after printing. Conjecture I know, but it's an interesting little piece of paper. |
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Post by JeffS on Nov 18, 2021 13:29:17 GMT
jamesw that 50c Admiral is indeed an admirable example,
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Post by brightonpete on Mar 20, 2022 13:04:32 GMT
The things I don't think of until...
Scanning my album pages, I came up to the Admirals. As I scanned them, I thought "I should put these in Stamp Analyzer and see if I was right about wet or dry printings." So of course the first one is wet only, but it does a great job of analyzing the stamp. I just wish it could output a text report vice print. Print is the only option!
Excellent analyzer...
 But really! This is the only report available? Good Grief!
(black frame added to show the page) 
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Post by brightonpete on Mar 20, 2022 15:00:03 GMT
Not long before I found an error: the 2¢ green I called dry is actually wet. Oh well, now to find where I put all the duplicates to see if I have one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 12:13:12 GMT
I recently acquired these Canadian "Admirals".  Due to their format how were such stamps sold over-the-counter at the post office ? Paperchase
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Post by renden on Apr 30, 2022 13:09:02 GMT
I recently acquired these Canadian "Admirals".Due to their format how were such stamps sold over-the-counter at the post office ? Paperchase Will consult the reference and let you know - René  |
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Post by vikingeck on Apr 30, 2022 13:20:00 GMT
@paperchase , I have very little knowledge of the “Admirals”, but were they not engraved stamps?
Your images do not look engraved and so look very odd to my eyes . I am puzzled, Can the Canadians confirm they are actual stamps?
could they be printer samples ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 13:46:46 GMT
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Post by renden on Apr 30, 2022 14:50:05 GMT
I recently acquired these Canadian "Admirals". The ONE CENT Yellow and TWO CENTS Green Admirals appear, based on "Marler" book (The Admiral Issue of Canada) - to come from the roll stamps in sheet form. Two issues of the one cent yellow exist (damp and dry processes) The block shown by the author has Type B lathework. Date of issue is 1924 author) Two issues also exist for the two cents green. The author fixed the date of issue as 1924. AS for the Imperforate stamps shown, the One cent was issued Oct 6th, 1924 and 50,00 were received by the Manufacturers. As for he two cents Imperforate stamps, same date of issue and also 50,000 placed on sale. They were printed by the wet process only. They were available in Post Office. With over 550 pages - Marler's book is much detailed and it is not my intention to go further in details - You need to have this reference to appreciate his knowledge !! Many re-entries exist ! The Admirals were "engraved"
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canadianphilately.blogspot.com/2016/02/the-1911-1928-admiral-issue-overview.htmlis excellent !! René   |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 15:33:11 GMT
Bonjour René, thank you for your prompt reply, when you say roll stamps, I presume that you mean coil stamps, I can't understand why coil stamps were sold over the counter ln sheet form unless there was no dispenser at that particular post office, in which case that post office should not have been issued with coil stamps in the first place but stamps printed in the normal sheet format ! (most confusing) !
And why sell imperforated stamps at the post office when perforated stamps were available, the date was 1924 not 1840 ?
Please explain........ Paperchase
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Post by renden on Apr 30, 2022 15:51:58 GMT
Bonjour René, thank you for your prompt reply, when you say roll stamps, I presume that you mean coil stamps, I can't understand why coil stamps were sold over the counter ln sheet form unless there was no dispenser at that particular post office, in which case that post office should not have been issued with coil stamps in the first place but stamps printed in the normal sheet format ! (most confusing) ! And why sell imperforated stamps at the post office when perforated stamps were available, the date was 1924 not 1840 ? Please explain........ Paperchase Have only cited a bit of info from one authority, Marler Here is what Canada's Unitrade Specialized catalogue provides - at a glance EDIT: the ONE, TWO, THREE cents were issued in imperforate (500,500,1000 sheets) but never sold in Post-offices in Canada, though available at the Ottawa Philatelic Agency (ref: Marler, page 64, The Imperforates) - Any other imperforates (FOUR cents and higher) were unavailable, even at the Philatelic Agency.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 16:14:48 GMT
Thank you for the list covering the different admirals issued René, but that is not the answer to my question relating to sales of these particular stamps that was either completely or partially imperforate.
I can now see that the imperforated stamps we're only sold at the philatelic bureau.
Was this the same for the coil stamps sold in sheet format ?
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