Admirals

Just by way of caution DON"T rely only on unitrade while working on this issue.I am no authority on this series but have learned there are many,many things Unitrade the book most Canadian collectors depend on for info is sadly lacking.Almost every value has plate differences that are readily noticed if you only look for them.I site this example ,#120 the fifty cent value also has the re-touched spandrell seen in other values.Now look in Unitrade it is not even listed.They list it in other values but, neglect it here. This is just one example.BEWARE !!!

Frog, just looking through The Admiral Issue of Canada by George C. Marler and I have to say the mystery grows deeper.  In his chapter on coil stamps Marler refers to endwise rolls - perf'd horizontally, and sidewise rolls - perf'd vertically.  When addressing the perforation of coils Marler has this to say;
So Marler has not documented the existence of your perf 12 vert. stamps.  I have been told by many dealers that Marler's book is "the Bible" of the Admiral issue.  With Marler having no acknowledgment of the perf 12 vertical I am seriously starting to wonder where they may have come from.  What denominations/colours are these stamps? I can look them up in the chapters on the individual issues to see if there is any more information or exceptions listed.  Or do you have a scan so we can see these strange and wonderful coils?

Edit: Just had a thumb The Postage Stamps and Postal History of Canada by Boggs. Although the chapter on Admirals is only a few pages, there is also no mention here of a perf 12 vertical format.

The idea of some privately done perf job ran through my mind, but that would mean someone would have to have access to a number of inperforate sheets.  This seems somewhat unlikely to me, but the imperfs do exist, so I suppose it could be possible.

Just as note they were perfed horizontal 12 so just maybe some were run other way and perfed vertical as well.

I have around hundred of these I'll send along a few your way.

You know me I love weird stuff.One day some appraiser is going to scratch blood out his head looking through my stuff.

They are interesting even if they might be fake

Shame they are thought to be faked. You would have had to start with some pretty exceptionally well centered or even jumbo stamps to produce such nice looking coils. Oh well pretty interesting chain of research all the same.

hey Froggie. Could you put aside one of each of those perf 12 coils for me? You know I love fakes, and I think they'd make a fab addition to my admiral collection. Be a shame to let an oddity like that pass into oblivion!

I am caught up for the moment I have three more lots of these on the way, some rather numerous.I may even get a chance to actually work on my straight edge stamps just to see where they're at now.Not really sure how I became so obsessed with this issue I mean it is not a terribly visually appealing stamp.I will say I have learned a bit working on them and will welcome moving on to others soon.If you haven't looked at Cv on this issue for some time (as I did) I would suggest it may be time to do so.MNH is going through the roof rapidly and fought over almost without fail.

I know very little about Canada, but offer these two suggestions.

1. The collector prior to you,  collected them for study.
2. they were passed on and added to, by collectors who decide "straight edge stamps" don't conform to the overall look
of the stamp album page, and prefer perfed stamps to mount.  Hence these tend to accumulate.

Well then Froggie, perhaps your sub-set of all values (circa 200) is not sufficient
to form any opinion other than a random set.

The 50c as I read it was 11M release against a 1c of 1,300MM the rates should somehow follow that trend
given that the lower values would have received more damage, and not retained as a percentage of the 50c.

Orly-Smith the Australian who studied the King George V, for colour variations, began with a sub set of 200,000 x 1 penny stamps
to begin an opinion.

I have received some more lots I won.One lot has over five hundred Admirals guess I'll be sick of this issue by the time I give them all the magnifying bit.Still learning about them though.It has been a fun time and that's all you can ask.

Froggie, to assist your study,  you may wish to Google and download the Bnaps  issue that deals with the Admirals.

It gives advice how the straight edges came about,  and may assist your understanding of  numbers and history.

See Page 14 in
bcphilatelic.org/pdf/BNAPS_1-5.pdf

Can someone with fresh eyes look at the lower left numeral box for me?it looks to me like inner frame disappears into outer frame at angle but smear postmark is blurring a clear look.