rod222
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Post by rod222 on Nov 10, 2014 21:20:28 GMT
Library How to detect damaged, altered and repaired Stamps. P W Schmid (out of print) Fully perforated stamps that can be trimmed to resemble imperforate.  |
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Post by stampgeezer on Nov 10, 2014 22:33:47 GMT
Thanks Rod, always good to know. Theron
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Post by I.L.S. on Nov 12, 2014 14:39:16 GMT
That's a nice chart to have and a little unnerving too! Thank you!
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Dec 10, 2014 0:31:04 GMT
Would our American collectors, care to offer opinions on this stamp from my $3 grunge bag. ? Sc#64 Manuscript cancel (presumed) Looks washed out My main interest is the correct catalogue number. Thanks in advance Be as disparaging as warranted   |
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Post by stampgeezer on Dec 10, 2014 0:58:58 GMT
Perf 12? Reperf on the bottom? If there is a grill I can't see it. Probably Scott 64 or 65. Looks like faded pink to me, but I am generally wrong on colors. Here is a link on the 64/65 colors. www.jamesdire.net/ID/64-65.htmlgood luck, Theron. |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 10, 2014 1:21:17 GMT
Perf 12? Reperf on the bottom? If there is a grill I can't see it. Probably Scott 64 or 65. Looks like faded pink to me, but I am generally wrong on colors. Here is a link on the 64/65 colors. www.jamesdire.net/ID/64-65.htmlgood luck, Theron. Thanks Stampgeezer ! I only have 1 stamp, so colour will remain as opinion. I revise my "washed out" , the colour matches your examples. Guage : Perf 12 Math : Perf 12.31 top and bottom Maybe a reperf, but I don't think so, I can make out dents made from blunt perforation pins. Definitely no Grill, can see indents from the engraved die of the design. Thanks for your help. |
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 10, 2014 1:56:39 GMT
Were the stamp mine, and absent a certificate, I'd call it a 65. I also think that the bottom perfs are original. The Philatelic Foundation database has several thousand examples of the 64/65 if you're interested in trying to come to grips with the color. |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Dec 10, 2014 2:11:47 GMT
Right, #65 it is ...$3 That makes so much sense.
Very difficult for an ex Stanley Gibbons collector to reconcile Rose as that colour,
we are more used to more carmine in the mix.
Thanks for the suggestion and the link.
Noted : Scissor cut across bottom perfs.
The clerk possibly had experience with the blunt perfs, of others in the sheet ripping at the wrong spot.
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Post by stampgeezer on Dec 10, 2014 4:29:45 GMT
Well, I have always been pretty good at identifying US stamps, except for perfs, color, watermarks, and gum!  Theron. |
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Post by mdroth on Dec 12, 2014 13:57:52 GMT
I'll second (3rd?!) the consensus - it's a #65. Interesting copy - jumbo margins on left & top. Color looks normal - one of the many thousand shades on this stamp. Especially if someone tried to clean off the cancel - it would also affect the color.
Almost impossible to tell grills from the front...would need to see a pix of the back...
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Dec 13, 2014 2:56:06 GMT
I'll second (3rd?!) the consensus - it's a #65. Interesting copy - jumbo margins on left & top. Color looks normal - one of the many thousand shades on this stamp. Especially if someone tried to clean off the cancel - it would also affect the color. Almost impossible to tell grills from the front...would need to see a pix of the back... Thanks for your input, appreciated. Definitely no grill, I like to think I know my grills, but I shall post a scan when I find it, it went into envelope full of US, which I have not begun to mount yet Quadzillions of them. |
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Post by rod222 on May 10, 2015 3:51:53 GMT
Investing in Stamps. Anyone care to work $1,000 to $28,000 in 39 years ? Annual Interest rate? 8.5% ? Australian Stamp News 1976 "General Custer of the Bighorn" cover Circa $1,000  2015 Stamp Auction network $28,000  |
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Post by zipper on May 10, 2015 8:18:09 GMT
Wow! very cool.
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Post by AirmailEd on May 10, 2015 20:35:55 GMT
Investing in Stamps. Anyone care to work $1,000 to $28,000 in 39 years ? Annual Interest rate? 8.5% ? Australian Stamp News 1976 "General Custer of the Bighorn" cover Circa $1,000 Rod That's 8.9 percent, according to my calculator. Not enough to retire on, but not bad. |
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Post by rod222 on May 10, 2015 20:48:36 GMT
Thanks Ed !
8.9% that's nothing to sneeze at.
In my younger days, I invested in rental flats, that brought with it, damage repair, lost rental, upkeep, rates and taxes,
travelling, accountants....etc & etc ad nauseum.
If I had my time over, I would invest in Philately.
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Post by Admin on May 10, 2015 21:10:07 GMT
Thanks Ed ! 8.9% that's nothing to sneeze at. In my younger days, I invested in rental flats, that brought with it, damage repair, lost rental, upkeep, rates and taxes, travelling, accountants....etc & etc ad nauseum. If I had my time over, I would invest in Philately. Rod if only you knew back then that if you invested a weeks wages on Dennison Hinges or the cost of one rental unit imagine the life style you would have. |
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Post by rod222 on May 10, 2015 22:11:34 GMT
Not so sure about Dennison, Admin certainly some £1 Kangaroos. I am at ease with not having a great deal, so being wealthy was not the motive, I certainly could have saved a whole lot of grief. Being a landlord is gruelling. What one needed, was a good mentor, and a Bank safety deposit box The young are nomadic, and stamps fragile. |
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Post by AirmailEd on May 11, 2015 19:54:45 GMT
Thanks Ed ! 8.9% that's nothing to sneeze at. In my younger days, I invested in rental flats, that brought with it, damage repair, lost rental, upkeep, rates and taxes, travelling, accountants....etc & etc ad nauseum. If I had my time over, I would invest in Philately. Rod if only you knew back then that if you invested a weeks wages on Dennison Hinges or the cost of one rental unit imagine the life style you would have. LOL. |
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Post by jimbooregon on Jul 22, 2015 16:49:33 GMT
Interesting discussion all
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Post by Ryan on Sept 24, 2015 5:46:13 GMT
Here's a stamp from the 1898 Trans-Mississippi Exposition issue. Perhaps the only stamp that would fit in the topical "beating a dead horse" .... I found it in one of my random piles of stuff and was very surprised, stuff in that catalogue value range is almost never seen in the random piles. I realized that the straight edge would reduce value (by how much?) but I didn't even notice the tiny scissors cut in the margin until after I scanned the stamp. Oh well, I keep the spacefillers and it's unlikely I'll come across a better example unless I specifically target that particular stamp.  Ryan |
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Post by jamesw on Nov 13, 2015 21:30:02 GMT
Not much on offer at our club auction last night. Managed to fill a couple of Newfie holes (hmmmm) and got some MNH classic US including this pretty decently centred 6¢ Washington. It's perf 12 but can't quite discern the watermark so hard to tell if it's 336 or 379.  |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 18, 2015 4:30:18 GMT
US Classic Scott #63 1c Benjamin Franklin "Z Grill" est $3,000,000 TV Program "Auction Kings" Customer brings in what she thinks is a Z Grill Proprietor calls in expert Mr. Randy Shoemaker, (He authenticated the only known Z grill in circulation) Mr. Shoemaker uses Lighter Fluid to test a possible $3,000,000 stamp Result: No Grill at all. Note: Expert uses "long nose" pointy tongs / tweezers, fabulous when mastered.    |
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Post by rod222 on Feb 6, 2016 18:08:52 GMT
lisag Postmarks Negative Cork Cancels Negative K cancel. Examples from Google Normally the Alpha Numeric would be in positive (receive the ink) Negative, the design is cut in relief. 
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Post by lisag on Feb 6, 2016 20:04:05 GMT
That's interesting. Was there a reason towns, cities, businesses, etc. chose to make cancels that are reliefs as opposed to the traditional "ink on the symbol" format?
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Post by jamesw on Mar 26, 2016 19:59:20 GMT
Picked this up today at a stamp show in North Toronto. US #214 large bureau. Perfs on the top are a bit hinky, but the vermillion colour is brilliant! Don't know if you can tell from the scan  |
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Post by jamesw on Apr 20, 2016 2:54:35 GMT
I see the 'recent acquisition' thread is locked, so I'll post these here. Some classic US that I'm in the process of purchasing from a club member. I may pull a few more out of the book before I'm done.
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Post by smauggie on Apr 20, 2016 13:54:39 GMT
I have always liked that 7 cent banknote guy with the long beard.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Mar 31, 2018 12:10:31 GMT
I recently received an amazing packet from bobby1948 as part of a Donation Auction for a Cancer Charity. Now, when it comes to USA stamps I am an (almost) complete dummy ! So much so that I doubt I have ever posted a picture in the entire USA section of our fabulous Forum. That I will be today is almost, but not entirely down to the generosity of the aforementioned member, so many thanks to him. Since the packet arrived 10 days or so ago, my Scott Specialized has been permanently on my desk while I have been marveling at the contents. So then, back to the Dummy bit. I have been reading through some posts here and one from Ryan offered up this question: Ryan showed a 10c used example from the 1898 Trans-Mississippi issue and suggested it had a lesser value because of the straight edge (right). Yet in my packet I received something similar (albeit an airmail) with TWO straight edges (mint) which the catalogue stated was of greater value ! So my question is this......Is there a difference between Mint & Used ? And/Or is there a difference between Regular issues and airmails ? Or has Ryan erred in his assumption (unlikely) ? Here are the Trans-Mississippi stamps I received from the Auction.  |
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Post by tomiseksj on Mar 31, 2018 12:26:07 GMT
... Ryan showed a 10c used example from the 1898 Trans-Mississippi issue and suggested it had a lesser value because of the straight edge (right). Yet in my packet I received something similar (albeit an airmail) with TWO straight edges (mint) which the catalogue stated was of greater value ! So my question is this......Is there a difference between Mint & Used ? And/Or is there a difference between Regular issues and airmails ? Or has Ryan erred in his assumption (unlikely) ?... The short answers are: yes, yes, and no. I think the primary reason that collectors place a lesser value on sheet stamps with straight edges is that they lack the symmetry of a stamp with perforations all around. This, of course does not apply to coils or booklet stamps. Without knowing which airmail stamp you're referring to it isn't possible to offer an opinion. |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Mar 31, 2018 13:20:51 GMT
I was referring to the C11 which I posted in the BoB section. It has similar lines to the one Ryan posted so I assumed it was from the edge of the pane.
But I know nothing about USA stamps, hence my query.
All good fun though for a lazy saturday !
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