Australian States: Victoria: Stamps

brightonpete   SURE!!!!  I like gadgets!!

It was supposed to rain today.... it didn't..... I played 36 holes of golf!   and when I'm on the links I'm offline!

brightonpete - Pete, am happy you send the smelly stuff to California 

René

Very nice and appreciated - keep hem coming !!

René

A 1 minute Google search for Victoria numerical cancels and question answered in this link: www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17108 

thanks also to hdm1950  -  wonderful information  -  will read and sounds very helpful  - much appreciated.  

many thanks for the reply vikingeck. You could well be correct about the left hand No., it really is difficult to decide whether an 8 or a 3. Agree with you, I've misread the right hand No. but the 48 does look rather central, so perhaps it is just 48 - so that makes it Melbourne then?, which of course is in the state of Victoria. Perhaps there's a book for these things:-)

Multi tasking here looking through my Australian States collection while watching sports. I had shown photos of my Victoria pages last year and noted the earliest items had condition issues. This 2 pence ‘Hall Length’ is the oldest I have. It is just a space filler (cut poorly at the top as well as a hole just above Victoria’s head) but what I am never sure of is if it could be a Scott 5 Lilac or if it is a Brown Lilac Scott 6,7 or 16. 

partly due possibly to the poor centring also likely due to  the v.  heavy barred numeral cancellation, this two shilling Victoria issue appears to have been overlooked by others, though not sure whether it's from 1857 or possibly 1859  -  possibly SG 56 or 82 -  some of these issues were repeated at various times, so not easy to  be sure as to which this one is.     In the top left corner - partly obscured - the word ONE should appear, and the word FLORIN can just be made out in the top right, though the words TWO SHILLINGS has almost been severed  at the bottom of the stamp.
The  barred numerals superseded the earlier barred oval cancels - this No. 1 is almost certainly for the town of Melbourne.

Would  appreciate  confirmation if this is one of Samuel Calvert's wood engravings (typographed from woodblocks), and that the separation looks to be by roulette.    thanks. 

P.S.    Just to add a  little info.  here ...............   it seems  that Sam. Calvert was personally responsible for  engraving these designs  onto 'deliberately hardened Turkish boxwood plates'  -  real  wood,  and it's boxwood that all  the best engravers have used down the centuries.          The fact that the plates were wood and not  metal of some sort  accounts  for the slightly 'naive/rustic' appearance of the images of the four issues that he was responsible for in  the early 1850s, in Melbourne.
Originally, these four designs were issued imperf. but a year or two later he obtained some  form of rouletting  machine, and  the issuing of imperfs. for  said  values ceased.    
However, seems our Sam. was involved in some less  than honest activity shortly  after,  and he was summarily dismissed from his official role in the post service. 

thanks for your informative reply michael, appreciated. I did wonder as to perfs. but edges here look somewhat ragged and difficult to be sure as to number. You're right of course about condition, which is rather poor, but for me it's useful to have an example even if less than good condition, and interesting to have the No. 1 for Melbourne.
Can we say with certainty that SG 82 stamps were still being printed from the original boxwood plates which Calvert engraved for the first imperf. issues in 1854, do you know?

ah, thanks michael - in fact I do have that one and had been looking there (2020 edition) for some of my information already posted - need to look again obviously. Perhaps you might like to amend to 1854 ;-);-)

rod222 ,

If one can believe Wikipedia, you won't find the town on the map because Crimea wasn't a town. Melbourne's Kooyong Road post office was renamed Crimea in 1946.

I haven't been able to pin down where the PO was located but I'm guessing somewhere near Crimea street.

paul1

VICTORIA  AUSTRALIA  TIME CODE 1861-1899

(Non specialist, requires confirmation)

Example MELBOURNE Duplex Hammer Number 4 Time Code "Y" (Y = 4.30pm to 5:30pm)






MELBOURNE NUMBER 4 DUPLEX hammers, with differing codes

I found this set of 1880-1905 Victoria stamps inside a glassine envelope yesterday; I'm not sure if my dad was planning to sell these or add them to his own collection. The backs of some of the stamps have the perf recorded, and there is sequential numbering on a part of the set (I arranged them using those numbers except for the bottom row). Other numbers may be SG catalogue numbers; nothing matched the Scott catalog numbers that I came up with. If my identifications are correct, the Scott #141 (1p green) and 224 (5p chocolate, watermark present) have CVs of $30 and $11, respectively. But what might the several "V" and "A" marks mean?