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Post by Mick on May 27, 2014 4:52:05 GMT
It seems to be an automatic reaction with me to relate whatever postmark appears here to the local football team, and today is no exception. I'm a long time Newcastle United FC supporter, as my family comes from Tyne and Wear. This year they finished tenth in the Premier League, after a horrible end to the season. 1974 was a better year for them, as they got to the final of the FA Cup, losing to Liverpool.
Cambridge United won promotion back into the Football League this year after a long absence. Good luck to them for next year.
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Post by alanl on May 27, 2014 22:50:41 GMT
Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland on May 27th.
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on May 28, 2014 14:49:28 GMT
May 28The 3c gray black, perf. 11x10.5 stamps adorning these first day covers are from the Four Chaplains issue of 1948 (Scott 956). George L. Fox, Clark V. Poling, John P. Washington, and Alexander D. Goode were four chaplains who sacrificed their lives so that others might live in the sinking of the S.S. Dorchester by the German U223 on February 3, 1943. For those who might be interested, this hour-long video tells more of the story.
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Post by alanl on May 28, 2014 22:56:41 GMT
May 28th in Glasgow, Scotland and Lancashire, England.
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vasia
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Post by vasia on May 29, 2014 9:29:14 GMT
May 29th, 1899
Local registered letter from Vitebsk. Franked correctly at 10k: 3k for local letter rate + 7k for registration. Russia introduced registration labels in 1899. During this first year, registration labels had a non-standard character, i.e bearing no "R" or its Russian equivalent. Most of them were of the type exhibited above for Vitebsk: on a white piece of paper, with the city name and registration number and often a black border around them.
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Post by I.L.S. on May 30, 2014 10:00:45 GMT
May 30th. 1859 New York, NY. to Mount Vernon, Ohio Scott #24's Type V. My great friend and one of the smartest guy's I know about these designs -Ray. mac said:
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Post by alanl on May 30, 2014 23:01:59 GMT
Degernes, Norway and Perth, Dundee-Angus, Scotland on May 30th. And Port Coquitlam, British Columbia.
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Post by I.L.S. on May 31, 2014 8:52:27 GMT
May 31st. Lebanon, Pa. to Delaware, Ohio. 185? - Scott #11
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on May 31, 2014 9:33:33 GMT
May 31st. Lebanon, Pa. to Delaware, Ohio. 185? - Scott #11 Hmm - I've spent enough time in Ohio that the first thing I thought of was Lebanon, Ohio, not PA. A quick look at Wikipedia suggests that they were similar in size around that time - 1850 population was 2,088 for the city in Ohio and 2,184 for the one in Pennsylvania. Delaware is in central Ohio near Columbus, so the Ohio town would have been closer geographically, for what that's worth. I've also been in Lebanon, OR, near the state capitol of Salem, but Salem was just a tiny place when it was named territory capitol in 1851 and I don't know if Lebanon even existed yet then. Ryan
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on May 31, 2014 11:32:11 GMT
Cover from Кам’ан. Подільськ Округ. к-ра звязку (Kamenets Podolsk okrug communications office) locally addressed. Franked at the 14k local registered letter rate with pair of 7k “small heads” with sheet line margin. The registration label in the Ukrainian language is perfed, with black border and printed pre-printed city name and registration number.
Just throwing a few thoughts around. The "sheet line margin" looks to me like an "interpanneau gutter" with, what English collectors refer to as a Jubilee Line, I always thought these lines were used to a) prevent use of blank watermarked paper for forgers, or b) as plate reinforcement during the print process. Jubilee lines are discussed here thephilatelist.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/jubilee-lines-corner-embellishments-and-the-like/Interpanneau block of 4 with "pillars" (to take up space between a forme of plates) Pillars in a GB plate, each pillar corresponds to a colour printed used in the stamp design.
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Post by tomiseksj on May 31, 2014 12:30:13 GMT
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This 6c green, blue, black and gray, perf. 12 stamp depicting an aerial view of the UN Headquarters was designed by Olav S. Mathiesen and printed by Aspioti Elka-Chrome Mines, Ltd., Athens (Scott 187). The cachet on the cover is associated with the "Art at the UN" series stamps issued on March 1, 1968 (Scott 183 and 184).
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vasia
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Post by vasia on May 31, 2014 15:45:37 GMT
Rod, interesting information, but I think the situation is different in these Soviet issues. My understanding is that they were printed in sheets of 100, consisting of 4 panes of 25. I do not think there are any lines in the cross-gutter space. The lines, such as the one on my cover, are placed at the left and right edges of the sheet. Here is the relevant illustration (together with the remaining sheet edge control inscription details) from the Zagorskiy catalogue - you can see the 7k value at lower left:
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Post by I.L.S. on May 31, 2014 15:46:56 GMT
May 31st. Lebanon, Pa. to Delaware, Ohio. 185? - Scott #11 Hmm - I've spent enough time in Ohio that the first thing I thought of was Lebanon, Ohio, not PA. A quick look at Wikipedia suggests that they were similar in size around that time - 1850 population was 2,088 for the city in Ohio and 2,184 for the one in Pennsylvania. Delaware is in central Ohio near Columbus, so the Ohio town would have been closer geographically, for what that's worth. I've also been in Lebanon, OR, near the state capitol of Salem, but Salem was just a tiny place when it was named territory capitol in 1851 and I don't know if Lebanon even existed yet then. Ryan Thank you Ryan. That may be very useful decoding the genealogy of the recipient. -Jeff
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Post by rod222 on May 31, 2014 20:09:11 GMT
Wow! Thanks Vasia, super stuff. You were spot on. Looks like a fabulous catalogue for information. Appreciated. Update: I revisited your scan, and like to throw in a curve ball, If , as you say it is a sheet line margin, how do you explain the perforations on the other side of the margin? You have a real curly one there Vasia. Hope I don't appear argumentative, but I tend to go back to my original thought, interpanneau gutter line. The catalogue page seems to be focusing on sheet line margins, without images of any markings (if any) between plates. If nothing else, a delicious piece of curiosity.
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Post by alanl on May 31, 2014 22:54:45 GMT
It`s May 31st in Penticton, British Columbia and Liverpool, England.
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Post by vasia on Jun 1, 2014 4:51:48 GMT
Update: I revisited your scan, and like to throw in a curve ball, If , as you say it is a sheet line margin, how do you explain the perforations on the other side of the margin? You have a real curly one there Vasia. Hope I don't appear argumentative, but I tend to go back to my original thought, interpanneau gutter line. The catalogue page seems to be focusing on sheet line margins, without images of any markings (if any) between plates. If nothing else, a delicious piece of curiosity. Rod, thank you for the reply. I am not sure I understand what you mean by "the perforations on the other side of the margin". Here is an enlarged version of the 7k strip of 4 from the catalogue illustration: We are dealing here with the upper right corner of the sheet of 100 (and, therefore, the right portion of the upper right pane of 25) and the printer's "control inscriptions" on the sheet's margin. Unfortunately, I have not been able so far to trace an illustration of an entire sheet for demonstration, but I am pretty confident that there are no "color lines" in the cross-gutter space of these sheets.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 1, 2014 5:06:09 GMT
Hi Vasia, this is what I mean, regarding the perforations. This suggests to me an interpanneau gutter, otherwise the line/edge would be straight, no? We shall agree to disagree, and I'll be most happy to stand corrected. we shall wait until a full pane / sheet emerges.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 1, 2014 5:25:07 GMT
This may suggest where I am coming from. This (I presume) is from a "Pane" of 100 stamps, as coming off the printing press (4 x blocks of 25 stamps) The large dark line may be expressed as a "Sheet Margin", but I read it as an "Interpanneau gutter line" I have no idea if I am correct, just as I perceive it.
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Post by vasia on Jun 1, 2014 6:36:50 GMT
Well, Rod, I have to admit I hadn't noticed that row of perforations on my own cover! I'll have to keep looking into this matter, but I can see your point and the 2R half-sheet seems to point to such a direction. Maybe the lines exist in both locations. Edit - addition. It seems that your theory is correct, at least for some of the values, including the 7k, as the following selection of vertical gutter blocks shows:
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Post by rod222 on Jun 1, 2014 8:08:19 GMT
Well, Rod, I have to admit I hadn't noticed that row of perforations on my own cover! I'll have to keep looking into this matter, but I can see your point and the 2R half-sheet seems to point to such a direction. Maybe the lines exist in both locations. Nicely put, Vasia, was worried it turn out a "I'm right" no "I'm right" I just find it interesting to nut out these points, that's why I like Philately, I couldn't care less if I am wrong. I was incorrect, as you pointed out, the entire page of stamps is the "sheet" and each block a "pane" so why do collectors call them "sheet margins" hahaha I have not come across any sheets of 7K so multiples must be rare, but one day something shall pop up. Love your posts.
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Post by vasia on Jun 1, 2014 8:12:13 GMT
Rod, it seems we were posting at the same time. Please see my edit of the previous post, where I added a gutter block that proves the truth of your theory.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 1, 2014 8:13:55 GMT
PS. some may think "what does it matter?" sheet pane? Interpanneau?
Well sometimes with engraved stamps, a piece of selvedge attached to a stamp, with either, can assist philatelists to locate the correct position of the stamp in the pane, when "plating" an issue. The difference then becomes important.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 1, 2014 8:15:08 GMT
Rod, it seems we were posting at the same time. Please see my edit of the previous post, where I added a gutter block that proves the truth of your theory. Yay! we solved it on "The Stamp Forum" well done Vasia !
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Post by tomiseksj on Jun 1, 2014 12:09:08 GMT
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From Denver, Colorado to Lebanon, Pennsylvania in 1890. The stamp paying the 1 ounce, "all parts" domestic rate is the 2c lake, perf. 12 Washington issued February 22, 1890 (Scott 219D).
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Post by vasia on Jun 1, 2014 14:44:48 GMT
June 1st, 1927
Cover from ПРОЛЕТАРСКОЕ Юго-Восток to Sofia, Bulgaria (faint receiver cds) addressed to the Credit Bank. Franked correctly at 28k with perf.12 definitives. The non-standard (provisional) registration label is perfed on 3 sides, and is quite minimal bearing a pre-printed registration #, no placename, just a п.т.к notation.
There are a number of localities with this name in the "southeast" - "Юго-Восток" (in Krasnodar, in Rostov oblast, in Dagestan, in Donetsk, in Dnipropetrovsk, etc). Judging by the "southeast" notation, it is probably the one in Donetsk.
In Moscow the envelope received a “damaged” marking in French: “Recu a Moscou aves les soupapes mal collees” spelling error ("received in Moscow with the backflaps badly glued, spelling error: "aves" instead of "avec"). The backflap is sealed with a perfed label with ornamental design (edge of revenue sheet?). Some researchers think that these markings are a sign a of secret censorship.
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Post by Philatarium on Jun 1, 2014 19:02:23 GMT
June 1, 1964 (50 years ago today) For years (and it really has been years), I've been intending to go through a box of Japanese first day covers I bought as a collection probably 15-20 years ago. I knew I didn't really have anything valuable in there, and it was mostly issues from the 1960's or so, which was not, in my opinion, the heyday for Japanese stamp design (nor for most other countries, either -- again, imo). So, last night, I finally took down and that box and started going through, thinking that I might post a cancel in the Postmark Calendar every now and then. I was looking for June cancels. As it turns out, I found 4 different first day covers commemorating a stamp issued exactly 50 years ago to the day today! So, I tossed some coal into the boiler of the ol' scanner and fired 'er up:
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