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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 23, 2014 14:16:16 GMT
August 23Stampless folded letter with 30mm black "WRENTHAM/Ms." CDS and manuscript "5" rate marking sent from Massachusetts to New Hampshire in 1852. 
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Post by alanl on Aug 23, 2014 22:45:36 GMT
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 24, 2014 8:12:34 GMT
August 24th 1915, Curwensville, Pa. Devoe Paint maker advert cover.
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 24, 2014 8:55:59 GMT
August 18 1846 folded letter/stampless (which is odd since stamps was certainly around in 1866?) 5 cents was due upon it's arrival by the recipient. Jeff, have you ascertained when the Post Office opened at Jersey Shore? YES, FINALLY!! Quoted and paraphrased from a book called "Jersey Shore" by Wayne O. Welshans-
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 24, 2014 12:16:41 GMT
Jeff, in that same text the author also cites April 1, 1805 as the date that the post office opened...click on the link in this post. Adding to the confusion, however, the USPS website indicates the Waynesburg post office opened on September 20, 1800 but it doesn't give an established date for Jersey Shore. I guess you had to be there to know for sure! |
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 24, 2014 12:23:05 GMT
August 24
Post card mailed from Curacao in 1936.  And from Washington, DC in 1943. 
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 24, 2014 13:42:34 GMT
Jeff, if the date on the stampless letter is 1846 then it isn't at all odd that there is no stamp (the first U.S. stamp was issued July 1, 1847 and I'm not sure why/how the 1866 date came about in your post).
Rod, according to this reference, the first Jersey Shore (or Waynesburg) Post Office opened on April 1, 1805. Thank you for the heads up on that! Or I suppose one could find a dated folded letter. Huh, I didn't know about that conflicting information? The text I quoted was from page 8 in the actual book I'm not sure which page on pdf file though? edit: It was written on the "Introduction" page near top of file. |
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 24, 2014 14:57:13 GMT
This reference cites Post Office Department records related to postmaster appointments and supports an April 1, 1806 date so the mention of the year 1805 in Welshans' book is likely a proofreading error.
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Post by alanl on Aug 24, 2014 22:50:01 GMT
It`s August the 24th in Enns, Austria and Llandudno, Conwy,Wales.  |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 25, 2014 8:41:12 GMT
August 25th ??, Kansas 1884 - Addressed to Williamsport Pa. (Near my hometown of Jersey Shore, Pa.) -Postal stationery.  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 25, 2014 12:23:26 GMT
August 25th ??, Kansas 1884 - Addressed to Williamsport Pa. (Near my hometown of Jersey Shore, Pa.) -Postal stationery. Jeff, can you tell us how the cork cancel was used please? Was the cork cancel part of the CDS? or a receiving mark? If part of the CDS, then a "proving" cork shape for that Post Office? Thanks. |
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Post by vasia on Aug 25, 2014 14:48:04 GMT
August 25th, 1923
Folded letter sheet (converted into an envelope and containing a dried flower) from Barnaul (southern Siberia) to Budapest, Hungary. Franked at 10R. However, on August 20th the international letter rate had increased to 15R, so postage-due of "20" is raised and indicated by the oval "Doplatit" mark of Barnaul at right (partly hidden). There is an additional indication of the postage-due by the manuscript “T 34c” at upper right. However, the postage-due does not appear to have been collected. The letter was apparently censored in Hungary and resealed by the use of four copies of a resealing tape, reading "Az 1912 - 63 t.-c. / alapjan felbontva", i.e "Opened on the basis of 1912 law no. 63 t.-c.”, a 1912 law on "Exceptional Measures in the Event of War".
As per information provided by the Society for Hungarian Philately: “Hungarian postal censorship, both domestic and foreign, was sporadic in the years after World War 1. Sometimes incoming, sometimes outgoing mail was censored, as well as mail internal to Hungary up to 1925-26 with no regularity. The thickness of the envelope, the possibility of questionable enclosures may have prompted opening. More possibly, Soviet Russia was looked upon with skepticism, not just because it was a former enemy, but because of its bolshevik government”.
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Post by alanl on Aug 25, 2014 22:42:04 GMT
Bromley, Kent and Sheffield, Yorkshire on August the 25th.  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 26, 2014 0:17:47 GMT
August 25th, 1923
Folded letter sheet (converted into an envelope and containing a dried flower) from Barnaul (southern Siberia) to Budapest, Hungary. Franked at 10R. However, on August 20th the international letter rate had increased to 15R, so postage-due of "20" is raised and indicated by the oval "Doplatit" mark of Barnaul at right (partly hidden). There is an additional indication of the postage-due by the manuscript “T 34c” at upper right. However, the postage-due does not appear to have been collected. The letter was apparently censored in Hungary and resealed by the use of four copies of a resealing tape, reading "Az 1912 - 63 t.-c. / alapjan felbontva", i.e "Opened on the basis of 1912 law no. 63 t.-c.”, a 1912 law on "Exceptional Measures in the Event of War".
As per information provided by the Society for Hungarian Philately: “Hungarian postal censorship, both domestic and foreign, was sporadic in the years after World War 1. Sometimes incoming, sometimes outgoing mail was censored, as well as mail internal to Hungary up to 1925-26 with no regularity. The thickness of the envelope, the possibility of questionable enclosures may have prompted opening. More possibly, Soviet Russia was looked upon with skepticism, not just because it was a former enemy, but because of its bolshevik government”.
Looks like a Lily ? Symbolism : Chastity and Virtue. |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 26, 2014 10:04:53 GMT
August 25th ??, Kansas 1884 - Addressed to Williamsport Pa. (Near my hometown of Jersey Shore, Pa.) -Postal stationery. Jeff, can you tell us how the cork cancel was used please? Was the cork cancel part of the CDS? or a receiving mark? If part of the CDS, then a "proving" cork shape for that Post Office? Thanks. Well I'm not sure if it was part of a Duplex or not? I'm almost positive that it was struck at the post office it was mailed from. I think it says Abilene but I'll have to check if there is/was an Abilene in Kansas and if so when? No receiving mark that I saw. I'll have to look closely at the ink offset on the central part of the cover to see if the distance between the dial and cork are consistant and if the orientation matches. OK I need coffee, just woke up and it's the day after chemo. |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 26, 2014 11:22:27 GMT
That's cool, take your time  The cork would not be a "duplex" per se, however, as you suggest, used to cancel the stamp as a killer, and the CDS preserved for information. (if both used in the despatch office) Looks like a "proving" cork shape. |
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Post by vasia on Aug 26, 2014 11:41:25 GMT
August 26th, 1914
Small envelope from Moscow to Newcastle. Early violet rectangle of military censor ("Dozvoleno Tsenzuroy"= permitted by censor)- this was the first month of World War I. Addressed to the Imperial Russian Consulate! Does anyone have an idea what in Newcastle of the time justified a Russian consul?
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Post by rod222 on Aug 26, 2014 13:24:34 GMT
August 26th, 1914
Small envelope from Moscow to Newcastle. Early violet rectangle of military censor ("Dozvoleno Tsenzuroy"= permitted by censor)- this was the first month of World War I. Addressed to the Imperial Russian Consulate! Does anyone have an idea what in Newcastle of the time justified a Russian consul?
Hi Vasia, These two seem to fit nicely, Romania has currently 8 consuls in Britain. We have a Thai consul in Perth, where I renew my son's Thai passport etc. I'd suggest a trade tie with Russia would have been the most possible reason. Lord Armstrong's artillery has a possible connection. wiki There may be several consuls, one in each of several main cities, providing assistance with bureaucratic issues to both the citizens of the consul's own country travelling or living abroad and to the citizens of the country the consul resides in who wish to travel to or trade with the consul's country. Newcastle: In the 19th century, shipbuilding and heavy engineering were central to the city's prosperity; and the city was a powerhouse of the Industrial Revolution.[20] This revolution resulted in the urbanisation of the city.[21] The Victorian industrial revolution brought industrial structures that included the 2.5 mile Victoria Tunnelling, built in 1842, which provided underground wagon ways to the staithes.[22] On 3 February 1879, Mosley Street in the city, was the first public road in the world to be lit up by the incandescent lightbulb.[23][24] Newcastle was one of the first cities in the world to be lit up by electric lighting.[25] Innovation in Newcastle and surrounding areas the development of safety lamps, Stephenson's Rocket, Lord Armstrong's artillery, Be-Ro flour, Joseph Swan's electric light bulbs, and Charles Parsons' invention of the steam turbine, which led to the revolution of marine propulsion and the production of cheap electricity. |
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Post by AirmailEd on Aug 26, 2014 17:10:08 GMT
Jeff, can you tell us how the cork cancel was used please? Was the cork cancel part of the CDS? or a receiving mark? If part of the CDS, then a "proving" cork shape for that Post Office? Thanks. Well I'm not sure if it was part of a Duplex or not? I'm almost positive that it was struck at the post office it was mailed from. I think it says Abilene but I'll have to check if there is/was an Abilene in Kansas and if so when? No receiving mark that I saw. I'll have to look closely at the ink offset on the central part of the cover to see if the distance between the dial and cork are consistant and if the orientation matches. OK I need coffee, just woke up and it's the day after chemo. Abilene, KS, is west of Topeka and north of Wichita. It dates from the 1850s. Dwight D. Eisenhower grew up there. |
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Post by alanl on Aug 26, 2014 22:49:42 GMT
Leeuwarden, Nederland and Rhodesia & Nyasaland on August 26th.  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 26, 2014 23:31:10 GMT
Leeuwarden, Nederland and Rhodesia & Nyasaland on August 26th. Alan, what year date can you make out on the Northern Rhodesia CDS? It looked to me like 1953, but the stamp wasn't issued till 1954 Rhodesia and Nyasaland was formed 1st August 1953 the stamp July 1954 as I see it. Pmk : ...Guess FORT GIBBS. After Captain J.A.C. Gibbs, an imperial officer in the West Riding Regiment, who was brought out by Rhodes as Adjutant of the Rhodesia Horse in 1894. He was in charge of the Gwelo laager during the Matabele Rebellion in 1896 and built the fort which bears his name. Colourful place names of Rhodesia GARAMAPUDZI. Gara - meaning "to live" or "stay", and mapudzi - "a type of gourd or pumpkin", thus, "live among the pumpkins". www.rhodesia.me.uk/ColourfulPlaceNamesofRhodesia.htm |
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Post by alanl on Aug 27, 2014 1:09:24 GMT
The 5 looks OK but the last number is very strange.
It does not match the font and it looks to be doubled.
Round on the top and bottom, could be an 8.
Maybe it`s some African character.
I studied a map and could only find a Fort Manning and
a Fort Rosebery.
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 27, 2014 13:13:28 GMT
August 27th 1861, Jersey Shore, Pa. Fancy star cancel.
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Post by vasia on Aug 27, 2014 14:22:46 GMT
August 27th, 1924
Cover from Alexandropol, Armenia (serial ж) to France. Franked correctly at 20k. The envelope used is of the “Near East Relief”, Caucasus branch stationed in Leninakan (the new name of Alexandropol by now). The cover is endorsed as usual “via Moscow”.
The "Near East Relief" was an organization (founded in the US, originally as the "Armenian Relief Committee" in 1915) that provided food, housing and medical assistance to the hundreds of thousands of Armenian refugees fleeing the Turkish massacres. After the war the NER continued its operations in the Caucasus and in the Middle East, including in Soviet Armenia until the late 1920's-early 1930. For interesting details about the NER, see a brief article in the journal of the Rossica Society of Russian Philately:
ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00020235/00066/63
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 28, 2014 13:10:21 GMT
August 28
Postmarked Newport, Wales in 1968. 
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Post by alanl on Aug 28, 2014 22:46:39 GMT
It`s August the 28th in St. Leonards, New South Wales.  |
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Post by Philatarium on Aug 28, 2014 23:51:18 GMT
It`s August the 28th in St. Leonards, New South Wales. Great item, Alan, as usual! Seeing this prompts me to wonder which countries permit commercial cancels? |
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