JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Mar 16, 2022 15:50:49 GMT
anglobob - definitely not your average lot of cancels. Someone spent a lot of time searching.
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Post by gstamps on Mar 16, 2022 20:02:35 GMT
I don't think I've seen posts with 10 Kr. Sorry, it's an old photo from a few years ago when I was trying to identify my inherited stamps. It's night here and only in daylight can I take better pictures with my phone. And the football games are starting, european not american  |
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Mar 17, 2022 1:40:50 GMT
A recent purchase of late 19th century stamps,mostly with socked-on-the-nose postmarks. |
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Post by gstamps on Mar 17, 2022 20:52:18 GMT
The original stamp Scott 54 (1890-96) is overprinted with "20 PARA 20" for use in Austrian Office of Turkish Empire , Scott 22 (1890-92). Since the bottom corners do not show 5 and considering the overlapping issue period is it possible that the number 20 was printed directly on purpose? In this case it cannot be Scott 54 overprinted, but another stamp, different also from Scott 22 which should have the figure 20 in the bottom corners over 5. I have read in Scott that many times 1,2 black digits in the corners were omitted, but in all the posts in the thread I have not seen any example. Nor does the example in the Scott catalog ( 2 Piaster /20 Hr) the number 20 does not appear in the bottom corners. What is your opinion?  |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Mar 17, 2022 22:27:24 GMT
I have these, but must admit I have paid little attention to, as I may not include these when I assemble pages for Austria (as I have also done with France). I do not know at all, but as the main image for these stamps simply has a etched field in the denomination circle, square, or hexagon, I suspect that they may all be 'two part" printing, although I suppose they could go back and overprint PARA or PIASTER (and also the CENTIMES) at any rate, here's some more examples   |
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Post by gstamps on Mar 18, 2022 6:35:22 GMT
Thanks stainlessb for your examples.
They confirm my hypothesis that Scott's mention "Austria Nos 52-55, 58 ,61 surcharged" is not correct.
These stamps for Austrian Offices in Turkish Empire were printed in the same period and used the plates of Scott stamps 52-61 to which the values in the bottom corners were replaced and the name of the new coin "para/piastres" was added.
The overprint plates I believe were made of modular elements that could easily be replaced with others.
I am curious if this information appears in any philatelic studies.
I don't collect Austrian stamps but reading this thread and my old Scott catalog I noticed this detail.
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anglobob
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Post by anglobob on May 29, 2022 12:46:46 GMT
Scott 110a-127 ,definitive set issued in 1908 to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the reign of Emperor Franz Josef I.  |
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Post by nbstamper on Jul 14, 2022 14:35:35 GMT
The following acquired during a moment of weakness at Capex:  |
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Post by fkarl on Jul 16, 2022 0:47:44 GMT
Way nice!
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anglobob
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Post by anglobob on Oct 8, 2022 20:58:28 GMT
SC 36,issued in 1874 with a selection of postmarks from various locations in the Habsburg Empire. K.K.P.E.Graz,Steyrling,Weidlingau Austria Auschitz Ouzice,Englesberg,Gewitsch,Podebrad,Zdirec Zdiretz,Gabel Czech Republic Fiumicello,Roveredo Italy Haidenschaft Slovenia Selve Croatia.  |
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renden
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Post by renden on Dec 4, 2022 20:10:46 GMT
Since I have been working on Austria (Steiner pages) - transfer of Scott Vol 1 and am on page 26 presently - Would like to show you a page (#10) - close to "full" except one space  One finds the 1916-18 series of Austrian Crown, Emperor Franz Joseph and Coats of Arms......, the 10K missing. The 2K appears as 2 used and #160a variety (Steiner does not often have spaces for Varieties LOL!!) so the extra used (I wanted to keep) and the Variety (26mmX29mm) have to find a separate space, breaking the beauty of the page - but these are only "stamps"  René p.s. my mounting is still not perfect but we should get there  |
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renden
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Post by renden on Dec 5, 2022 17:55:20 GMT
Two other nice series - Newspaper stamps of Austria - 1920-21 and 1921-22 - Series complete - I even found a 5 Heller shade (grey) variety, not identified in Scott Standard Postage. The other 5 H is slate. René
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renden
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Post by renden on Dec 9, 2022 18:05:18 GMT
Another nice series on Steiner page - "Special Handling" stamps with 2 varieties: 1) Mercury 1917 2H with 11 1/2 perf 2) Overprint of 1919 2H with 11 1/2. The 12 1/2 2Hs are also there  |
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 8, 2023 20:28:45 GMT
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anglobob
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Post by anglobob on Mar 23, 2023 15:14:18 GMT
Postmarks from various offices in Vienna with just the street name or location. In 1892,post and telegraph offices were given a number which appeared on the cancellation.The Austrian Philatelic Society has a list of these offices,numbered 1 to 127.I have found stamps with higher numbers but have been unable to find any more information. I am also trying to find postmarks from all these offices.  |
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anglobob
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Post by anglobob on May 8, 2023 11:24:13 GMT
A few more Vienna cancellations from the late 19th century.  |
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on May 12, 2023 15:19:11 GMT
with many thanks to anglobob for help with this one. This appears to be SG 32 (Sc 27) - the 2 Kreuzer denomination from June 1867, and I'm inclined to agree that this is type 1 with 'Whiskers and hair of portrait coarse and thick' - the portrait looks to be Emperor Francis Joseph 1. Unfortunately, the camera doesn't quite capture the lemon-yellow of the stamp - it's come out looking a tad too orange-yellow. As the ODRAU postmark appears to show 21st May then presumably this one isn't 1867.  |
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Jul 7, 2023 14:51:50 GMT
Here’s a strange perforation alteration on Austria Scott #58. It looks like someone trimmed the right side with a pair of scissors or other device that left a perf 16 shaped like a triangular waveform. Other sides are perf 11 1/2. Weird.  |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jul 7, 2023 15:36:42 GMT
pinking shears? indeed an odd one. Maybe used to cut from envelope and just got too close... but at least parallel and straight!
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Jul 7, 2023 16:49:38 GMT
pinking shears? indeed an odd one. Maybe used to cut from envelope and just got too close... but at least parallel and straight! I think you’re right. The shears I used to use were much more coarse than that but I did a search and pinking shears are manufactured these days with a cut that fine. Who knows when the stamp was trimmed though. Still a bit of an oddity. |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jul 7, 2023 18:01:13 GMT
I remembered the shears from childhood. My grandmotherw as a quilter and the squares were cut with the zig-zag scissors (as I called them then) Not sure what the advantage is... well..off topic (I'll stop)
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 7, 2023 18:33:48 GMT
have a feeling that the zig zag cut helps to lessen fraying of the threads - mind you, might also make a difference whether the cut is along the warp or weft.
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Post by paul1 on Jul 31, 2023 15:33:26 GMT
the various values from the 1867 series of Medallion defs. showing Emperor Franz Joseph I aren't rare - particularly the lower values, many of which are shown here - and members who collect Austrian classics, will be aware of the famous colour error on the 3 Kreuzer value. This stamp should be green as per the attached, but the error was due to a mistake when a printing block with the value 3 Kr. was inserted by mistake into one of the first plates of the 5 Kr. value (which is red) - there are now either three or four of this dramatic colour error known - see picture. My green example was cancelled in 1873 and part of the cancellation wording reads 'MAXIM WIEN - might this have a connection with "Maxim Wien is an amazing club in the heart of Vienna with great line-up of High Class Girls." ;-);-) I mention this extreme rarity as it's recently be the subject of a short article in one of the U.K. stamp magazines - and always worth keeping an eye out since these low values are seen frequently.   |
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anglobob
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Post by anglobob on Jul 31, 2023 15:54:15 GMT
paul1 This is a cancellation from the Maximilianstrasse post office in Vienna. Check earlier posts here in this thread and you will see other offices.
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Post by paul1 on Jul 31, 2023 16:09:34 GMT
thanks anglobob, I didn't seriously think my suggestion was likely to be correct - just that a little sleuthing brought up that idea. thanks for the correct answer - much appreciated.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Aug 1, 2023 17:19:20 GMT
This poor stamp! It looks like someone tried various methods to create a copy with one of the four corner denominations missing. Sheesh - lots of surface abrasions, eh? And maybe they tried chemicals, too?  |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 1, 2023 18:27:10 GMT
but they did an awfully nice job of matching up the etched lines and perfs!
I'm not finding any notes of a missing denomination (Edwin Mueller's work so I don't have to translate)
The red ink looks fairly 'intact"
i do not think the ink *black) for printing is the same as the obliteration ink.. but maybe if you could remove one you could remove the other?
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Post by philatelia on Aug 1, 2023 20:11:45 GMT
Good questions - under a loupe I can’t see the denomination, but it is so rough it’s hard to tell. Odd little stamp in any case.
Wien cancel wouldn’t you say, Bob?
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 1, 2023 20:22:50 GMT
an odd attempt at something...? I would agree it is Vienna (Wien)
From the back can you see the overlay? Not a high value stamp to put much effort into?
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Aug 1, 2023 20:32:57 GMT
Definitely not worth much at all, but when I see an oddity, I become curious, wondering “what happened here?” And - ya know how I love the hunt for the unusual.   |
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One finds the 1916-18 series of Austrian Crown, Emperor Franz Joseph and Coats of Arms......, the 10K missing.
