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Post by Anping on Jul 30, 2017 2:24:50 GMT
Here is a selection of Stamp Duty Contract Note stamps up to the value of $200. These have not yet been checked for issue types, which differ in the number of shading lines at the top of the Queen's head. Firstly, here is an edited extract of a Page 1 of a 4 page paper, just to give a basic overview: These are a bit cluttered as they are just in a working stock page: The rather vivid colours makes identification a bit more difficult; as does the misplacement of a few of the overprints.
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Post by Anping on Jul 30, 2017 17:33:20 GMT
Another selection of Stamp Duty Contract Note stamps; but these are the overprinted revalued versions:
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 31, 2017 5:20:35 GMT
Many thanks for these great posts, Anping! I have never seen these "Contract Note" HK issues before, so once again, I am learning something new, which is usually a very good thing. As I am still away from home on travel at the moment, I cannot check my Scott catalogue to see if these issues are listed there, but I will try to remember to do it later this week and report my findings, if any.
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Post by Anping on Aug 1, 2017 11:32:22 GMT
Bumped to show subject introduction in first post.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 2, 2017 5:38:55 GMT
Anping, I just wanted to let you know that I have arrived back home today, and I checked my 2006 Scott Catalogue for a listing on these HK Contract Note stamps. Sorry to say that Scott does not include them in the listings. The only back-of-the-book stamps listed for HK are a few semi-postals from 1988, postage dues from 1923-2004, and three Japanese Occupation stamps from 1945. There is nothing on HK revenue stamps at all, a sad omission as far as I'm concerned....
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Post by Ryan on Aug 2, 2017 6:20:42 GMT
Is there a catalogue specific to Hong Kong revenues? I have a Barefoot Commonwealth revenues catalogue so I might find these stamps listed there. I don't think my Yang catalogue shows them, though (I'd have to go spelunking in my piles of catalogues to find that thing ....).
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Post by Anping on Aug 2, 2017 10:19:30 GMT
Anping , I just wanted to let you know that I have arrived back home today, and I checked my 2006 Scott Catalogue for a listing on these HK Contract Note stamps. Sorry to say that Scott does not include them in the listings. Beryllium Guy , I actually wasn't expecting them to be in Scott. If those were to be included, then the whole raft of stamp duty issues would have to be in there as well (QV through QEII). In fact, Ryan has asked about the one publication that does cover these: There is a substantial section dedicated to Hong Kong in Barefoot, although my copy is a now little outdated. As yet I haven't checked the QEII section in there, as it is probable that the article (Page 1) I posted earlier, has much more detail. I refrained from showing all 4 pages, as I felt it may have been too intense for the casual observer. I can of course show the remainder if wanted. Yang does not list these either, which I'm relieved about. I am not a great fan of this catalogue because of the continual repetition of errors, typos and poor English; issue after issue. Why do they not invest is the use of an English proof reader? And just a couple of observations about these QE issues: Some years ago, these were virtually given away by dealers as they seemed to be in abundance and were considered back of the book fodder. More recently, collectors hamstrung by the high prices of postal issues have been seeking out subsidiary material that is both obtainable and affordable. This is one such example. However, the greater demand for these has pushed the prices up considerably. The examples I have shown were bought by me from one dealer, who listed these at .99p per pair regardless of face value. But I was lucky. There is one particular UK eBay seller/dealer who specialises in Commonwealth revenues, and prices these individually. Just this week he listed some priced between £2.95 to £17.50 each (and that's just up to the $60 value). Some of those I bought had face values up to $100 and $200. Looking on Hipstamp, the pricing is somewhat similar, for those I saw from New Zealand sellers. So based on the sheer numbers of printing variations (five I think), assembling a collection of these now is itself becoming financially prohibitive for many.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 2, 2017 15:21:52 GMT
Anping , I just wanted to let you know that I have arrived back home today, and I checked my 2006 Scott Catalogue for a listing on these HK Contract Note stamps. Sorry to say that Scott does not include them in the listings. Beryllium Guy , I actually wasn't expecting them to be in Scott. If those were to be included, then the whole raft of stamp duty issues would have to be in there as well (QV through QEII). Thanks for the further info, Anping. Your observations are very interesting, I think, but also unsurprising. Prices for Hong Kong material have been steadily rising over the past decade or two, and as you point out, becoming less and less affordable all the time. I wish now that I had gone after more early HK material sooner.... I also did not expect that Scott would have listed these, either, but I wanted to check, as they do list stamp duty issues from other entities. I am not sure what criteria they use for deciding which issues to include and which not, but as an example, for the Australian state of Victoria, they list AR1-AR65, which are stamp duty issues from 1870 through 1900. Spaces for these stamps are also included in my Scott album. There is a note in the Scott Catalogue on Victoria which states "On Jan. 1, 1884, all postage and fiscal stamps were made available for either purpose. Fiscal stamps became invalid for use after June 30, 1901." Perhaps this is the key point, although it does not seem to be explicitly stated: Scott lists the stamp duty issues if they were also used for postage, but not if they were only ever used for fiscal purposes. If that is the case, then I gather that the HK QEII issues you have shown were only ever used for fiscal purposes.
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Post by Anping on Aug 2, 2017 19:01:49 GMT
Perhaps this is the key point, although it does not seem to be explicitly stated: Scott lists the stamp duty issues if they were also used for postage, but not if they were only ever used for fiscal purposes. This is also true of the Gibbons catalogue. Yes, that's correct.
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Post by tobben63 on Mar 6, 2020 21:21:06 GMT
Can someone tell me what this is?
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 7, 2020 8:41:46 GMT
These are nice, tobben63, thanks for posting. I hope that you will find the info you are looking for in the earlier posts in this thread. Our old friend Clive ( Anping) was very knowledgeable about all things Hong Kong, and I am very glad that he has documented so much good info on TSF. I am not normally a collector of purely fiscal stamps, or of issues from the QEII era, but I really like the design and colors of these stamps.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Mar 7, 2020 11:28:00 GMT
tobben63.......your 4 examples are all from 1972 and printed in photogravure by John Waddington of Leeds, UK. They are of smaller format to others as can be seen in the article posted by Clive ( Anping) in the initial post.
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Post by anglobob on Jun 13, 2020 18:45:10 GMT
Examples of contract notes and bill of exchange stamps.Some of the contract note stamps have a hole punched in them.
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Post by anglobob on Aug 10, 2021 2:24:04 GMT
While waiting for my next shipment of purchases ,I found another assortment of contract note stamps.
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