salentin
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Post by salentin on Jun 12, 2021 15:49:11 GMT
Very nicely centered ! The scan puzzles me: it looks,as if the embossing would be "negative",i.e. embossed from the front- to the backside. Must be an optical effect.
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Jun 12, 2021 18:05:23 GMT
Yes, it's an artefact of the scan. The embossing is the way it should be. Soon the family portrait of those eagles will be complete! It's literally been years in the making.
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Aug 5, 2021 20:39:51 GMT
New arrival today, a copy of MiNr. 23a, 1 kreuzer light green, with a large breastplate. The cancellation on this one is quite a beauty as well. I was hoping it would be the blue-green shade (because I have an AFA catalog for early Germany, and that's their 23a). No matter, it's not quite the same shade as the one I already have (and posted earlier in this thread), so a keeper nonetheless!
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Sept 7, 2021 20:43:04 GMT
In my latest arrival, I received the following stamp: It was identified as MiNr. 17a, which I understood to be a large breastplate design (YT #14), but it's clearly the small breastplate kind (YT #2). So not quite what I expected. At least it's a nice on-piece specimen with an interesting postmark, so still a keeper.
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 23, 2021 14:57:08 GMT
A big auction win this month, the "9 on 9 kreuzer" German embossed 1874 issue, AFA #30 & YT#29:
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Post by hrdoktorx on Nov 26, 2021 21:22:46 GMT
Another month, another auction. This time, I snatched the 9 kreuzer red-brown large breast shield issue (YT#24 & AFA #27):
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Post by kasvik on Nov 27, 2021 0:22:35 GMT
Another month, another auction. This time, I snatched the 9 kreuzer red-brown large breast shield issue (YT#24 & AFA #27): Brilliant. That's as good as these critters get.
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Post by hrdoktorx on Apr 23, 2022 12:15:38 GMT
This month, I lost out on all but one of the lots I was bidding on. But the one I won was the most important one. Here it is, the 18 kreuzer brown small breastplate embossed eagle German Empire issue (AFA and YT #11):
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renden
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Post by renden on Apr 23, 2022 12:41:40 GMT
We should have an answer from Xavier hrdoktorx...
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 23, 2022 13:26:24 GMT
Xavier ( hrdoktorx), first of all, thanks for posting all of your acquisitions in this thread over the past months... you have acquired some really nice material, there. Congratulations! But I have read Werner's ( salentin) post and looked again at the images of small versus large breastplate features re-posted by René ( renden), and I think that he (Werner) has a point. It looks to me like your latest one is actually the small-breastplate variety. I think I can see it in the leg and the layout of the wingtips. If it was misidentified and incorrectly listed in the auction by the dealer, can you return it if you don't need it?
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Apr 24, 2022 7:19:44 GMT
Thank you all for noticing my mistake. I had wrongly written "large breastplate" while I actually meant the "small breastplate" kind. Original post is now corrected. You can't let anything like that pass our keen-eyed members!
And the white spot was just a paper flake stuck to the scanner glass pane. Sorry about that!
Had it been the large breastplate type, I would have kept it too, because I'm still missing that one as well!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 24, 2022 7:59:34 GMT
Thanks for your follow-up post, Xavier ( hrdoktorx), I am glad to know that it was just a typo rather than a problem with the stamp. I don't have anywhere near what you have in these early embossed issues, but I recently bought an old album page with 10-12 examples of these, and I have been able to add a couple I didn't have and upgrade a couple of my previous ones. I will try to remember to scan that page today and post here to show how mine collection is shaping up. These have long been a weak area in my classic Germany collection, but thanks to a couple of nice stamps acquired in a trade with Roland ( cara) combined with my recent acquisition, the page is starting to look more respectable. I will post again later. Sorry for the digression. The main point is that you are making excellent progress on yours, and it is great to see!
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Post by mikeclevenger on Apr 25, 2022 16:53:18 GMT
Good day. It is definitely a small shield.
Have a great day.
Mike.
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 9, 2022 13:35:38 GMT
just received these last night. Alwaysa some concern over forged cancelllations, but a nice addition! Small shields
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 9, 2022 21:30:26 GMT
Germany Embossed Imperial Eagle Issues, 1872-1874It's hard to believe that I promised to post my collection of these back on 24th April, and it has taken until now for me to do it. Well, better late than never, right? I should take a moment to thank Roland ( cara ), as some of the stamps in this group were acquired in a trade with him last year. Thanks, my friend! More recently, I bought an old album page at the Charing Cross Market in February, which has now given me many more of these embossed stamps than I had before. Sadly, some of these are faulty, but the price was low enough that just a couple of higher CV stamps in sound condition could justify it, so the space fillers were effectively free. Row 1: Germany, Sc1-2, Sc4-6, Sc8-10 (Small Shield Design) Row 2: Germany, Sc15-20 (Large Shield Design) Row 3: Germany, Sc 21, Sc23, Sc27-28 (Large Shield Design)
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 6, 2022 19:30:48 GMT
any tricks discerning Imperial Eagle to Eagle with large shield when the embossing is not clear??? I know the 1/3 Gr green is a large shield, but the others are eluding my eyesight! I have turned the brightness setting all the way down on my scanner.... which helped somewhat, but not enough. Looking from the back i'm no further 'illuminated"
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Post by renden on Nov 6, 2022 20:51:19 GMT
Stan stainlessbNice diversity - always better to have the stamp in front of you and apply the differences
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 6, 2022 22:10:45 GMT
to my eyes the centers of these stamps are just blurred blobs
It looks sorta-kinda like top row outside are large and middle is no &^$#!@ idea!
bottom row small, left large, and right has to be large, but again a guess... one look I think I see ther ends of the wings, then a blink later, maybe a bigger smaller shawdow in the middle....or I'm trying to just see something whether it's there or not...
and some of this may simply be "unable to positively identify"
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Post by PostmasterGS on Nov 6, 2022 22:27:00 GMT
Large, Small, Large Large, Small, Large
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 6, 2022 22:30:15 GMT
Thank you! my guess were closer than I thought!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Nov 6, 2022 22:34:35 GMT
Thanks for your posts, Stan ( stainlessb). Personally, I think that the easiest way to differentiate these is to look at the wing tips rather than at the shield in the center. You will notice that on one type, there are no wing tips pointing upward at all, but there are on the other type. Does that help?
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Nov 6, 2022 22:35:52 GMT
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Post by PostmasterGS on Nov 6, 2022 22:44:35 GMT
The wingtips are the easiest way to ID these, if you can't see the shield itself. #1, #2, & #4 the sheild is clearly visible. For the rest, just look at the wingtips.
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Nov 12, 2023 12:01:11 GMT
Among the new arrivals in my latest order, this copy of the small breastplate 3 kr. carmine rose, MiNr. 9:
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Post by hrdoktorx on Nov 13, 2023 22:09:59 GMT
Another new arrival, the 1/3 groschen light green with large breastplate, MiNr. 17a:
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 29, 2024 5:53:37 GMT
Looking for Help with Stamp ID Germany Sc4a Imperf or Mutilated Stationery or Something Else?I recently acquired the stamp shown below as part of a trade. It looks to be a German Empire 1872 Small Shield issue, but with a twist. I can tell by the white along the margins that it's not simply a trimmed perforated stamp. The Scott Catalogue does list an imperf Sc4a, but the catalogue value for used is "--," which I guess means not enough data to quote a value? So, is this something unusual and potentially interesting, or is it just a piece of mutilated stationery or something else altogether? Anyone have any ideas about this? I will tag a few members who may know about this: PostmasterGS, salentin, cara, rednaxela, khj, scub, others? Also, on an enlarged image of the scan, I noticed that there seems to be some sort of small-character-size inked linear marks as parallel lines, the top one of which starts in the upper left corner of the stamp and slants diagonally across the stamp to just below the mid-point at the right edge. The other line is a bit below that and crosses just under the shield in the embossed vignette and goes through the middle of the numeral "1" in the lower right corner. In looking closely at the parallel lines of text, it almost looks like a can read the French word "OUVERT" (open or opened), but I can't be sure. Any advice or comments that anyone can offer about this stamp and these markings would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by franoise on Jul 29, 2024 6:02:33 GMT
Maybe from this envelope ?
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 29, 2024 6:08:07 GMT
Thanks for the quick response, franoiseMutilated stationery.... as I suspected it could be, but I hoped it might be something better. Ah, well, if that's the case, then so it goes. Any idea about the linear printing?
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Post by franoise on Jul 29, 2024 6:18:07 GMT
"Post-couvert...ein groschen" (not mine)
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Post by rednaxela on Jul 29, 2024 6:55:57 GMT
This is a cutout from an entire postal stationery envelope, specifically a cutout from No. U1 according to the Michel Postal Stationery Catalogue. This is identifiable by the gray overprint: "EIN GROSCHEN POSTCOUVERT" repeated several times (the words "OUVERT EIN GRO" can be identified in the image). Such an overprint was standard for the first postal stationery envelopes of the German Empire in 1872.
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