Sorry, I haven't studied these German postmarks yet, so I don't know what 'VIII' signifies. Maybe simply counter number / clerk at that particular postoffice that day, but that's purely a guess from my end. I would be curious to know of someone more knowledgeable can enlighten us 😊
Nice to know nobody found the VIII at the bottom of the postmark.........blaamand - I know you will find it and share with us René
From my little experience this is most likely the date head of a machine. A cancellation with either with wavy lines or slogan next to it. If it was British I would say that is the machine number. It might be a duty reference but most likely the eighth such sorting machine in Berlin.
It might be a duty reference but most likely the eighth such sorting machine in Berlin.
Could well be, but, while not wishing to argue, I will restate my previous observation, if so, why do we not see cancels from the other seven machines? Possibly, because the others are in Arabic numerals, but then there is also the identification of the letters to the right of that bottom center number. I think it may be necessary to go to a Germany specialist site for a definitive answer. Does anyone know of one? Or I might give another site such as SCF, a try.
An update on the discussion regarding Renden's post above. I went to the Germany & Colonies Philatelic Society and posted a query about the symbols and letters at the bottom of the dials in German hand stamps and specifically about the Roman numeral in Renden's post. The gist of the replies that I got is that feebletodix was correct. The numbers and letters in the cancels relate to device numbers post office station numbers and employees using them. The cancel with the Roman numeral, however, is not a hand stamp, but the dial of a machine canceling device. The use of a Roman number at the bottom of the dial was previously unknown and of interest to the society's cancellation experts. They are continuing to look into it. So, from a cancel perspective Renden's stamp (now blaamand's?) is a special one at this time. I hope cancel collectors reading this will watch for other examples of a German cancellation with a Roman numeral in the dial and report finds here.
I need to make a correction to my post above re: the symbols and numbers at the bottom of the German hand stamp dials. The Arabic numerals refer to postal stations, not device numbers according to my correspondent at the Germany & Colonies Philatelic Society. The Roman numeral's use/significance in the machine canceling device is unknown at this time.
Ok, thanks stamphinger. The arabic numerals were already known anyway, similar numbers were used for many major cities in Europe at the time. So with the roman numbers now back as 'unknown' we are simply back to square one then...mystery unsolved
A page of German cancels from the 3rd Reich period. This page includes, in my opinion, my most interesting and controversial cancel. It is the Heidelberg bullseve on Sc. B291, the Volksturm issue of 1945. Note the sequential numbers in the date and time line of the cancel. There are at least four possibilities that I can think of: 1: It is a genuine coincidental cancel, 2: It was a favor cancel for a local collector, 3. It was applied by a postal clerk to several stamps with the objective of selling them at profit, 4: It was applied by a U.S. soldier-collector who looted a post office and carried off a canceling device and some stamps. There may be other possibilities that I have not thought of. I am interested in opinions on this cancel.
I've been laying out a page for slogan cancels on WW stamps and will include this one from New Zealand which I found interesting. Looks like it may be from a booklet pane. Besides hitting the pair just right for a cancel telling postal patrons to call friends on the other island, it includes tabs on each end urging people to buy Parisian ties. A combination I've not seen beore.
A nice small collection, they are mostly heads without slogans from machine cancellations and a couple of partial slogans
However on the 4th row, the stamp on the right with the London IS cancel, could you take a larger image of that please and post it on the GB postmarks thread because Alan does not have a copy of that one in his database.