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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 15:58:54 GMT
Short, quick explanation Reprints technically should be using the original plates and they are made by the postal authorities for collectors, as interim issues while new issues are in process or for special events. They may have some value if issued when still valid but generally not after they expire or are printed as CTO's. Sometimes postal authorities will make "official reproductions" from new plates. The US 1875 reproductions are an example as is the famous/infamous Dag Hammarskjöld invert. You also have unofficial reprints usually from plates that have been kept by printers or obtained by a stamp dealer (this was a fairly common occurrence in the 1800's) - there are lots of these and sometimes a fine line between reprint/forgery exists especially if the plates get modified in some way. My personal opinion is that they are FORGERIES. Europe has some of these from plates that were abandoned when invading troops came in. Belgium has a special case where the workers in a printing company made prints to sell for unpaid wages. With any reprint paper, minor plate changes, perfs, gum or lack of may be indicators of reprints Forgeries are simply to fool collectors, provide fillers or defraud the government With Nova Scotia, the 1860 reprints are very different in color, the paper should be very white, thin and hard, the impressions are much clearer. The 1890 ones are very rare and with slight differences in color except the 1/ which is very different.
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Post by jimjung on Mar 24, 2018 18:56:20 GMT
I have a soft spot for Nova Scotia.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jun 15, 2018 2:46:12 GMT
I saw this listed with a question mark and now maybe someone here can solve the question.What is this?printed on almost postcard material and lacking any clear color.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 15, 2018 3:41:59 GMT
I saw this listed with a question mark and now maybe someone here can solve the question. What is this? printed on almost postcard material and lacking any clear color. Frog, you come across some really interesting material. Do you own this one now? When you wrote "almost postcard material", I immediately thought of postal stationery, but 12-1/2 cents seems much too high for a postcard rate back in the day. Looking at the frame line all around and the more-or-less colorless image, I wonder if it could have been cut out from an album page or a card for mounting the stamps. Of course, it could just simply be a rather poor-looking forgery. Perhaps @falshung or jimjung or dgdecker or jamesw or Poodle_Mum or someone else may have more familiarity with an item like this one....
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jun 15, 2018 10:41:31 GMT
Yes Chris knowing me you know I had to add this one to my big mess.It could very well be a proof that has survived mis handling or just a old cut-out from something.At any rate years from now someone will be asking the same question as posted."what is it? " No matter it will reside in the Funky Frog collection.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 14:12:30 GMT
I saw this listed with a question mark and now maybe someone here can solve the question.What is this?printed on almost postcard material and lacking any clear color. It is not a forgery, it falls into another category as a similitude. It was probably on a postcard, perhaps a album example or some sort of ad on a product and not intended to "fool" collectors or the gov't. It may have been copied from a period catalog. It does not fit any known forgers. If someone cut it out to use or sell as a genuine then it becomes a forgery.
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Post by doug630 on Jun 15, 2018 14:40:46 GMT
Here's a little insight on what coins post office customers BOUGHT stamps with:
Nova Scotia Half Cent - 1861 and 1864 Nova Scotia One Cent - 1861, 1862, and 1864 Halfpenny Token (Sterling) numerous 1823 to 1856 Penny Token (Sterling) numerous 1824 to 1856 Canada Confederation - 1c, 5c, 10c, 20c, 1858 on Canada Confederation - 25c, 50c, 1870 on
New Brunswick, Newfoundland, and Prince Edward Island had a similar mish-mash of coinage; English coins in shilling and pence probably circulated too, and bookkeeping must have been a nightmare.
Like the U.S., there were zillions of different private banknotes, an estimated 30% to 40% counterfeit.
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Post by jimjung on Jun 17, 2018 20:55:24 GMT
Although Canada was one of the earliest countries to introduce Postal Stationary in 1860 with the 5c and 10c Nesbitt envelopes, I can find no record of Nova Scotia Postal Stationary of any kind; Postcards or envelopes, in the 1860-67 period when this stamp was used. I would tend to agree with nl1947.
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Post by dgdecker on Jun 19, 2018 0:53:51 GMT
It is not a forgery, it falls into another category as a similitude. It was probably on a postcard, perhaps a album example or some sort of ad on a product and not intended to "fool" collectors or the gov't. It may have been copied from a period catalog. It does not fit any known forgers. If someone cut it out to use or sell as a genuine then it becomes a forgery.
Learned a new term with this post. Love the « similitude » explanation. I have never come across anything like this in all my years. I have a fondness or weakness for pre- Confederation issues. I am awyays on the look out for unusual items . I am not any expert by any means but I seem to notice quickly when something is different. My senses start to tingle a bit and i start researching to fins answers and explanation. I do not get overly exited about colour variations as they can vary so much according to cameras and other things. It is the slight differences in printing or design or paper that attracts my attention. I have had many fun adventures with fellow collectors discussing our discoveries. david
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Post by dgdecker on Jul 20, 2018 21:16:10 GMT
Would any one be able to explain what the term « jumbo « might refer to in a description of Nova Scotia #8? I have seen this on several listing on eBay. There are currently three listed today on EBay. I see no reference or mention of « jumbo » in any of the catalogs or other online resources. I did contact the sellers asking for clarification of the Term. I have included an image of a « jumbo » listed by a Canadian seller. any help would be appreciated. thanks, David
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2018 11:40:24 GMT
Would any one be able to explain what the term « jumbo « might refer to in a description of Nova Scotia #8? I have included an image of a « jumbo » listed by a Canadian seller. This is the latest marketing catchphrase initiated by PSE a few years ago. Their opinion of a great stamp is one with wide margins which initially was for imperf but has now spread into perfed stamps Centering and wide margins are the only criteria, By getting a "certificate" from PSE or better yet encapsulating it like a sports card, one can turn a $5 stamp into a $500 one and many "astute investment collectors" are actually getting in on the action. Some feel this is the new future of what they consider a dying hobby.
A perfect 100 Jumbo or maybe a Dumbo These cut outs are appearing in great numbers
"Only 3 OG rank higher" because that's all the ones PSE has "graded" so far.
The sad part is that some US prestige auction houses are even getting in on this.
PT Barnum had a saying for those who buy these gimmicks
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Post by dgdecker on Jul 21, 2018 13:11:05 GMT
Thanks for the info. PSE? Is there a web site site for this group? Now that I know what the term refers to, what is the criteria to determine if a stamp qualifies for a « jumbo » qualifier. I suppose this means a stamp has the potential to be valued at a premium price. I wonder if one should expect a higher price if stamp comes with a « certificate ».
thanks David
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Post by Poodle_Mum on Jul 22, 2018 2:41:06 GMT
Personally I think these "jumbo" are ridiculous. Let's just add another category to digital replications! Oy!
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Post by Londonbus1 on Sept 26, 2018 8:56:53 GMT
All of these have been shown before in this popular thread. But hey ! One more viewing won't go amiss !! I won't even bother with any info. But I will say that these are some of the most popular CW stamps around. Not long after I posted these on a Facebook stamp group, they got 57 likes !! All the other items I posted took much longer to reach half that figure. ( I am not bothered about likes, hates or loves but I mention this just to show the popularity of Nova Scotia stamps). Here they are !
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Post by renden on Sept 27, 2018 13:53:43 GMT
LB1, thanks for showing the NS stamps. Most varieties of these are not "cheap" as you know. I have not started a NS (Province) collection though I am close to finishing New Brunswick stamps and have shown what I have. I also have the books of reference for both Provinces, which helps, besides Unitrade Canada cat. I thought Newfoundland stamps were more popular.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 27, 2019 19:23:12 GMT
Today I finally found time to go through the NS lot from LB1.I thought I had spied something odd about this one before I had put it aside and today after looking at it again I'm still not absolutely sure what it is I'm seeing.If you look closely at the right side of the stamp the shading is blurred and my eyes seem to see a "ghost" figure of the stamp image.
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Post by brightonpete on Jan 27, 2019 21:26:15 GMT
It looks to me like she has a bad case of chicken pox or measles!
But it is a beautiful example of a postage stamp!
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Post by renden on Jan 27, 2019 22:04:18 GMT
It looks to me like she has a bad case of chicken pox or measles! But it is a beautiful example of a postage stamp! For Nova Scotia (as New Brunswick) it is good to have the reference materials as it gets complicated with "classic" stamps - I have not really gone to N.S. yet, though I have some stamps but have not done "inventory" yet - I prefer to finish New Brunswick ($$$) and then go to Nova Stotia....more stamps but histoy is the same (except the 5 cent Connell !!
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Post by dgdecker on Jan 28, 2019 1:02:41 GMT
Today I finally found time to go through the NS lot from LB1.I thought I had spied something odd about this one before I had put it aside and today after looking at it again I'm still not absolutely sure what it is I'm seeing.If you look closely at the right side of the stamp the shading is blurred and my eyes seem to see a "ghost" figure of the stamp image.... I will dig out my copies and have a close look at mine ans see I see same thing on any of them. I have over a dozen to check. david
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Post by WERT on Oct 3, 2019 19:03:38 GMT
He is an example of Scott 11 vs Scott 11ii - Unshaded variety. Here are just 2 of my stamps for your information.
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Post by renden on Oct 3, 2019 21:36:59 GMT
He is an example of Scott 11 vs Scott 11ii - Unshaded variety. Here are just 2 of my stamps for your information.
Robert
I have to start collecting Nova Scotia.....so close to New Brunswick but different - Thanks for sharing WERT
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Post by WERT on Oct 3, 2019 22:05:00 GMT
Thanks Rene...I collect all Provinces
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 30, 2019 13:31:16 GMT
As received.This is probably one of my all time favorite "play around with" issue.Halifax Law Library issue.
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Post by nikhil on Oct 30, 2019 14:02:46 GMT
I thought I had posted this before, here it is in the appropriate thread I love the designs on these and these are my only 2 Nova scotia stamps-- These were sent by Mr. Frog along with the 37d I won in a giveaway earlier this year. 11i and 8a
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Post by brightonpete on Oct 30, 2019 14:14:45 GMT
nikhil : here is a page from my 2016 Unitrade catalogue for Nova Scotia... If you want full size, I can email it to you...
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Post by nikhil on Oct 30, 2019 14:39:13 GMT
Thanks brightonpete! Edited post with the cat no's. This scan is clear no need of emailing!
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Post by dgdecker on Oct 30, 2019 18:45:15 GMT
Now that I finally have my collection “ organized” it is time to share. Like any collection this is still a work in progress.
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Post by dgdecker on Oct 30, 2019 18:46:08 GMT
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Post by dgdecker on Oct 30, 2019 18:47:53 GMT
I do have a fondness for what I call my “ blue babies” also not shown a few more covers.
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Post by dgdecker on Oct 30, 2019 18:49:02 GMT
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