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Post by luciano on May 19, 2020 16:17:53 GMT
Work commitments permitting, I think that soon I will create the sheets for the mushrooms
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stanley64
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Post by stanley64 on May 20, 2020 6:58:08 GMT
Welcome to TSF luciano; enjoy your time here and I look forward to more of your postings.
The album sheets you have created are wonderful and I especially like the vertical text running up the left-hand side; a nice visual trick for pulling the viewer's eye up the page.
I look forward to seeing more and if you need additional ideas or inspiration as you create the next set or new ones for the mushrooms, you may want to have a look at this thread - Show your DIY album pages
Again, welcome and happy collecting!
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Post by luciano on May 20, 2020 7:19:42 GMT
Thank you so much for your favorable comment. But above all for letting me know the link of the album sheets section
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Post by luciano on May 21, 2020 20:07:57 GMT
Hi, I have unfortunately ... a trivial question See the Colnect screens, with this Mongolian mushroom-themed stamp:
You can see the size of the stamp in millimeters: 45 x 45.
But how will the size of the stamp have been indicated?
If the size was measured like this, the stamp occupies a certain "area used" in the album:
If the size was measured in this other and different way, the stamp occupies a much smaller "used area" in the album:
It's all here. Since I don't have this stamp, but I'm doing the "quadrilateral designed for postage stamp positioning" on the album, it would help me to know how the measures were taken.
Either someone ... has this stamp, or someone knows how these types of measures are reported in the catalogs.
Thanks to anyone who can help me.
Greetings from Italy
Luciano
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Post by ameis33 on May 21, 2020 21:03:42 GMT
I don't have the stamp, but i guess the 45 mm is the measure of the side of the square, like in your first picture...
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Post by Ryan on May 22, 2020 3:33:18 GMT
You can see the size of the stamp in millimeters: 45 x 45.
But how will the size of the stamp have been indicated?
If the size was measured like this, the stamp occupies a certain "area used" in the album:
I looked through some Mongolian stamps and found a copy of a 1964 diamond-shaped stamp from the Tokyo Olympics set. In particular, this gymnast: Like your stamp, Colnect gives this stamp a dimension of 45mm x 45mm. And when I measure it, it matches your sketch above. So, the stamp itself, when measured in its correct diamond orientation, needs a space approximately 63mm x 63mm square, plus however much space you want to allow around the edge of the stamp. Ryan
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Post by luciano on May 22, 2020 7:35:40 GMT
Perfect! Thanks so much for the valuable information.
Regards
Luciano
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Post by luciano on May 22, 2020 12:06:29 GMT
Here is the aesthetic result of the first sheets created:
For the stamps, I assemble the used ones in collection in my album sheets with these:
While for new stamps I use specific supports, which I have available in various sizes, always conformed according to my files:
so I can also check the gum (glue) on the back:
What do you think? Am I using a good way?
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Post by darkormex on May 22, 2020 12:09:45 GMT
Those are attractive pages, luciano. I have always liked Mushrooms on stamps as a topical. They make for a beautiful stamp collection.
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Post by stainlessb on May 22, 2020 21:43:25 GMT
I haven't actually printed out just converted, so this should be still considered a draft or proof copy. If you see anything, let me know (I'm aware of outer frame centering being off) I got 3 denominations on same page as there are only shades and stamps on yellow paper (not referred to as GC) Next is the 10c Sower on mound... the only denomination (it was apparently not popular. There are two Types and several shades, so it will get apage to itself, and then comes the 10c Semeuse cameé has 3 types, but few shades, so I think I can fit legend and stamps on single page... and then it goes from simple to several varieties/types/colors
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Post by darkormex on May 22, 2020 21:57:40 GMT
Are there as many varieties identified for the other Semeuse lignee stamps of that 1902 definitive set in Yvert or Maury? I mean other than the 20c, 25c and 30c and is it your plan to make pages for them? Are you able to fill all the spaces above? Handsome page by the way. I personally prefer the less is more philosophy on my pages which is why Steiner is fine with me.
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Post by stainlessb on May 22, 2020 22:16:18 GMT
I believe for the Sower "series" (all 3 'styles') there is quite a large number of (over 200 color variations and I'm onlu including the yellow/GC paper). I use Maury Ceres & Dallay as it is the most detailed. Thus far I have only a few holes to fill thus far. I have been buying lots of just Sowers since last year in preparation for this (much like I did when i put the the GB 1864 penney red plate collection together (I still need 225 and a small few could use an upgrade to full/better perfs),
so yes, pages for the entire series with shades.
i had though about breaking the 20, 25 and 30 c into separate pages (and I still may)
With the Penny red plates I fir 20 stamps per page 4 rows x 5 each and it makes for full pages. I do like the more spartan appearance, providing I have enough information to know what i am looking at... (which is probably silly as few will probably ever view beyond at a society 'show and tell" or here on a forum)
it would eb far simpler to buy the more 'standardized" pages, but that's like playing Go Fish....
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Post by darkormex on May 22, 2020 22:26:13 GMT
Ha!...well you are about to have a few more. Hopefully it will help fill in those few holes. Similarly, I had been focusing on the later Sowers, the 1906 series, and have quite a few amassed at this point but I haven't done anything with them. I have been selling more than a few books on eBay lately and may use some of that cash to pick up a Maury catalogue as the Sowers are a bit of a favorite of mine. Too many stamp interests, not enough time.
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Post by stainlessb on May 22, 2020 22:41:44 GMT
so here's a quick re-format of just a single denomination per page (in this case 20c) What do you think? and darkormex if you find you have holes in the 1906 series, let me know, I may well be able to help!
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Post by darkormex on May 22, 2020 22:46:39 GMT
I like it. Given the number of varieties I would probably go this route, especially considering you are focusing on one small series of stamps. A 1 binder specialized collection.
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Post by spain1850 on May 30, 2020 16:48:53 GMT
For the most part I use steiners pages, but occasionally I like to "experiment", although I still try to keep with the Steiner style. In this case I wanted a separate page to put these WASA overprinted stamps on, but I wanted to include some kind of graphic or picture of the actual ship. I found a good picture of the ship on the net (Actually a scale model), turned it into a b&w pcture, and lightened it to the point where I could print it in the background, behind the stamp boxes. I really like the result, and will try to create other such special pages.
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Post by angore on May 30, 2020 19:45:47 GMT
Spain1850
Looking good.
If you want the country name to match Steiner better you need to add about 0.4 pt or so spacing between the characters.
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Post by spain1850 on May 30, 2020 20:33:06 GMT
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try. Unfortunately, it won't help all the pages I've already done (probably over 1000), but it probably won't matter that much since I've already "tweeked" some other things since my first pages, like border and box thicknesses.
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Post by blaamand on Jun 4, 2020 19:53:23 GMT
Thats a very nice page spain1850 - I like the faint Wasa in the background
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Post by blaamand on Jun 9, 2020 6:49:04 GMT
What do you guys do with series/issues that are spread-out in the catalogs across several years (or even decades). Do you stick to the catalog order - or keep them together? Here's a typical example, the last definitive issues of Finland before the Monetary reform in 1963. Coat of arms - Lion design was used for the lower-values - and pictorial designs for the high-values. Most catalogs (all except Facit?) and albums keep them spread. I like to have them kept together, like this:
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 9, 2020 13:51:29 GMT
blaamand I also like to keep series together rather than absolute catalogue "order". I think it makes for a better study/display grouped together. but to each their own!
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 9, 2020 14:54:42 GMT
blaamand: I am of the same opinion as stainlessb! Keep them together. Iceland issued some pretty flower and bird series over a number of years. I keep those together too!
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Post by spain1850 on Jun 9, 2020 15:04:19 GMT
I guess I'm the odd man out. Since Steiner pages follow, closely, to Scott catalog order, I prefer the same. Some definitive series, from some countries, would be so huge, if grouped together, they might as well have their own binder. It just makes things too disjointed for my taste. Many times paper, watermark, or printing process change over time, even though a design might be the same, and should be kept separate. Again, just this mans opinion.
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Post by blaamand on Jun 9, 2020 15:19:04 GMT
spain1850 - Thanks! Opinions are good, always interesting to hear what others are doing. I see your point too. A good example would be the QE2 machins. If having detailed pages for all the machins together in one group, it would be like an album in itself. Could be somewhat tiring when viewing the collection to leaf through pages and pages of the same design. I am considering the same for when I will make my pages for France. The 'Sower' (Semeuse) is spread over several decades, a few new denominations or new colours issued more or less every year. Maury have them grouped in several "batches", with other issues in between. I don't know yet if I want to follow Maury or have them in one huge group. If having them all together, they will span many pages when including all the types, multitude of shades, varieties, papers etc. Could it become a bit boring to look at? Hmm, yet to be decided. On the opposite side there are more limited series, all with the same paper, watermark, printing etc, that naturally belongs together. Example given the Finnish series (in my post) with the old denomination. Scott has these pictorial issues spread according to year of issue, Michel and AFA spread the low-values likewise - all of which makes no sense to me. FACIT has taken the sensible approach and collected them as one group.
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Post by stanley64 on Jun 9, 2020 15:32:33 GMT
Agree with many of the comments shared here; page after page of the same image where only the colours or values change does not make for the most exciting collection to view. Myself, and using the Portuguese Ceres as the example, I keep the issues together and intersperse with pages dedicated to particular value and focus on variations or postal usage just to keep it interesting and the pages turning...
Happy collecting!
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Post by angore on Jun 9, 2020 15:56:33 GMT
I usually follow Scott since I use Steiner pages so grouped how Scott groups but I have redone some pages to regroup. I tried doing it once with my US collection (gather all Great Americans) but it turned out to be too much trouble as it has a ripple effect on pages impacted.
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Post by spain1850 on Jun 9, 2020 21:11:52 GMT
blaamand - Your "Sower" example is a good one, and one that I can relate to. When I constructed my France album I decided to lump them all together, because I wanted to check the types all at once. However, with some denominations there just aren't as many types. So those tend to look lost on the page, with all the others. I wasn't even going after paper types, just design types. Now, after time has passed and I can look back at my early efforts, I am actually thinking about re-doing them, by splitting them up more chronologically.
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Post by classicalstamps on Jun 10, 2020 5:52:20 GMT
Steiner grouped a lot of the early Greenland issues together. Many commemoratives from the 1970s -1990s were in fact part of a series, even though they were issued as singles. Grouping them together makes for a far better album layout, if you ask me. Steiner have since stopped groupings, as he went to a yearly release schedule. I guess it varies from country to country, but making conscious choices about what to do for each, is what makes custom albums superior to commercial offerings (or even Steiner). Example:
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Post by blaamand on Jun 10, 2020 13:37:29 GMT
classicalstamps - That Greenland page is a good example, Morten. Agree! Valid point, it varies from country to country - and even from series to series within each country. As already stated, having them all together might not be the best for very extensive series - but prudent for smaller series. And as everything else, it's up to personal preference.
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Post by Jeff Hayward on Jun 10, 2020 15:53:54 GMT
Here is a page I created to use in my penguin album. The mount I used for the mini-sheet was a poor choice. The text came from several web sources including wikipedia. Credit give on the back of the album page. I keep these in archival quality page protectors.
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