vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 15, 2021 20:58:42 GMT
My instinct is to suggest it is not an imperf. variety of an adhesive stamp, but more likely a cut out from an item of postal stationery., Possibly from envelope or a wrapper for mailing a newspaper. It looks to be on thinner paper than the regular stamp,
I may be wrong so would be happy for someone else to confirm or refute my suggestion.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Aug 15, 2021 21:40:50 GMT
I also have this imperf Russian stamp. I've seen it perforated on various sites but is it common to find imperf varieties?  I am not a specialist in this area, but I can tell you that this design, Scott Type A14, which was issued as perforated stamps in 1909-1912, was essentially re-issued as imperforate stamps in 1917. Yours would seem to be the 3k red stamp, which is listed as Russia, Sc121 as an imperf, at minimum catalogue value. In my experience, many of these stamps are common in both perf and imperf types. Current catalogue excerpts are shown below.  |
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Post by WERT on Aug 15, 2021 21:45:49 GMT
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I have a bunch of these in a box down stairs somewhere..Should find them some day
Robert
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Post by gotstamps85 on Aug 15, 2021 22:44:43 GMT
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Post by WERT on Aug 15, 2021 22:49:57 GMT
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I believe the Weston Mounty book is 1957
Robert
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Post by darkormex on Aug 15, 2021 22:52:09 GMT
The stamp image above is actually from Thailand, a country I am working on currently. This is, if it were in better condition, a desirable stamp for anyone collecting Thailand. It is probably Sc. no. 3, 1sio vermillion, which used, has a 2016 Scott Catalogue of $24.00. Your copy, however, has a significant tear and the perfs are all but missing from the bottom so someone like me would put it in my album as a space filler and hope I was able to get a better copy later. In terms of what someone would pay for given the condition, I could not hazard a guess but you might be able to get a couple of $ for it.
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Post by gotstamps85 on Aug 15, 2021 22:56:14 GMT
I was close, ended up changing my guess to the Phillipines after posting it. It is a shame about the tear.  Trying to find this one was tough. Found a listing on ebay which dates it around 1883. |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 21, 2021 18:53:51 GMT
Clearing out some old stock books to try and de-clutter my stamp area I found these, on a page all by themselves, no notes or description I know these are related to Russia, but unsure if it's the South Russian Province, Armenia? or if these are even legitimate stamps?  |
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Post by khj on Aug 21, 2021 19:14:22 GMT
In the Scott catalog, look under Siberia. These are the surcharged issues of 1919.
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 21, 2021 19:22:38 GMT
Thanks... I was apperently should have looked North instead of South!
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 14, 2021 19:11:49 GMT
This was mixed in with France? Any ideas? Cinderella?  |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 14, 2021 19:19:54 GMT
Stan ( stainlessb ), it's Ireland. The name ÉIRE in the upper right is obscured a bit by the postmark, and denomination 46p is in the upper left corner.
Edit: It looks to be Ireland Sc643:  |
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 14, 2021 21:00:40 GMT
Thanks Chris!
Now I see it clear as day!
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Post by rex on Oct 23, 2021 9:46:31 GMT
Postage stamp or tax stamp ..? Thanks in advance for the help.  |
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 23, 2021 12:29:17 GMT
Looks like postage stamp YT#256 or Sc#392 from 1914 although it's unclear to me whether the "Aguascalientes" purple mark is a cancellation or a partial overprint. If the latter, then I don't have a good ID.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 23, 2021 13:20:44 GMT
Thanks for your post, Ludovico ( rex) and to Xavier ( hrdoktorx) for the response. I did a quick search (not exhaustive), and it looks like “Aguascalientes” is a postmark or cancel, rather than an overprint. That said, I am still unsure if this example is postally or fiscally used, but I don’t think it is overprinted. |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 23, 2021 14:42:27 GMT
rex....I think it's a revenue stamp from Circa:1914. There would have been a 'tab' on the bottom of the stamp which would have been used as a kind of receipt. Quite a common practice in this part of the world I believe. More digging should prove fruitful ! 
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Post by rex on Oct 23, 2021 16:45:38 GMT
Thanks guys for your always friendly, kind and expert answers, everything serves to bring light to the questions, in fact the question was asked in the Italian forum of which I am a member, so I thought I'd turn the question here, the union as always does the force.
The answers given here will be posted by me on the Italian forum translated.
Thank you all.
However, I also believe that it is a revenue stamp, in fact it does not have the word 'correos' that I notice on all the others.
I think it is correct as Londonbus1 claims that it was accompanied by another appendix which was then detached.
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Post by daniel on Oct 23, 2021 18:09:27 GMT
rex , this is a little complicated. The stamp states 'Gobierno Constitucionalista', Constitutionalist Government, so it is from Mexico's Revolutionary Period. Stanley Gibbons lists various Constitutionalist Government stamps including this design as a provisional postage stamps for 1914 but only up to the 25c value. It appears to have been issued originally as revenue stamp and here is a used example with tab:  Purple is typically used for revenues and there are other examples on ebay with city or town marks. So, almost certainly revenue usage.
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Post by rex on Oct 23, 2021 19:12:41 GMT
All clear, thank you very much daniel . This is what emerges from the other forum .. Mexico 1914 Revenue Issue  |
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 23, 2021 21:43:10 GMT
Aguascalientes…….. a city with a million inhabitants in Mexico.
Intriguing , I translate as “hot waters” …..is this a place with hot thermal springs?
Or maybe just a tax on hot water 🤪🤪🤪🤪😎😎😀😀😀!
Governments tax anything they can think of , so who knows.
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 24, 2021 7:27:39 GMT
Yes, it is a place with thermal springs. Mexico is host to many active volcanoes, so there is plenty of geothermal activity in the area.
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Post by rex on Oct 24, 2021 8:08:06 GMT
For the spirit of participation between the two forums, I also report here for completeness the latest information. The issue is called `` The Denver Issue '' because it was printed there. See the two images below.....  |
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Post by rex on Oct 24, 2021 8:09:46 GMT
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Post by daniel on Oct 24, 2021 17:00:27 GMT
rex, there appears to be some confusion and contradiction here, partly due to 2 similar-looking issues. From the Mexico catalogue that you have shown, A52 is identified as the Denver printing and Stanley Gibbons concur, note the longer and upturned foliage in the claws. The stamps that we are discussing are illustrated by A53 with much shorter foliage. The 'Denver' Revenue Issue page that you show above gives much detail. One of these sources must be wrong 
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Post by rex on Oct 24, 2021 17:42:18 GMT
You're absolutely right daniel , I posted after reading superficially. Our stamps are the A53. Thanks for pointing this out, my watchful attention is no longer what it used to be. |
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 4, 2022 15:48:59 GMT
These were in with a collection of Germany/German States I acquired. Centimes tells me France, Belgie or others, but not Germany They all have large paper hinge remnants on the reverse, but I see no sign of a watermark  Thanks in advance. Alsace Lorraine , Franco Prussian war of 1870-72 period having trawled eBay and delcampe for months, looking for decent examples at a modest price where possible, I have just today completed a full set of these used from a number of sources. The stamps were then reprinted after Alsace and Lorraine were incorporated into the German Reich in 1872. I am almost certain that Stan’s lot above are the reprints and not the originals . The key to identifying is to lay a ruler diagonally from NW to SE corner. In reprints the line goes through the “P” while in the originals it leaves the “P” intact. if Stan stainlessb you still have these, and they are the reprints as I suspect………..I am looking for such a set to match my originals . |
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 4, 2022 16:32:45 GMT
vikingeckYes I still have. PM me your address!
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 4, 2022 16:53:32 GMT
Here's what I have assembled Taken almost a year !  The postmark on the 5 centimes Is a Prussian Army "KPR FELDPOST RELAIS No 20" |
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