WERT
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Post by WERT on Jan 16, 2020 19:35:43 GMT
Hi guys I know nothing about Japan stamps, but got this paper with 2 stamps on it and writing that reads...
""This stamp was abolished about 12 years ago""
Now it says 12 years, but could be 30 year old paper and writing.
Have NO idea what stamps there are and why did they get abolished. Any help appreciated...Robert
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 16, 2020 23:17:19 GMT
It is a strange expression to use.
I suspect it probably means this stamp was made obsolete., rather than abolished. Japan was forced into a restructured currency in 1946 after WW2 so the earlier issues in old yen were no longer valid for postage .
Could the 12 years ago have been written in 1958, ie 12 years after currency reform to the new Yen?
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Post by cjoprey on Jan 16, 2020 23:57:55 GMT
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Post by WERT on Jan 17, 2020 2:23:09 GMT
cjoprey and vikingeck
You guys are probably right..Could have been written years and years ago.
Is it really 1883...??
Robert
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Post by khj on Jan 17, 2020 2:50:50 GMT
Agree with Vikingeck, the writer of the note likely mean "demonetized".
The date on the left postmark is 24Oct, but unfortunately the year cannot be read.
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Post by WERT on Jun 8, 2021 16:35:52 GMT
Moderator Note: This post and the one following were moved to this existing thread on the same subject.
Don't know much about Japan 1883 stamps.Got this a couple of years ago. Noticed the old owner's writing said " This stamp was abolished about 12 years ago" Not sure what he meant...Were they abolished by Japan... 
Robert
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 8, 2021 21:07:40 GMT
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 9, 2021 19:54:05 GMT
Robert ( WERT), I have now combined the threads. Personally, I agree with earlier comments from Alex ( vikingeck), Kim ( khj), and Chris ( cjoprey). I think that the term "abolished" was probably just a poor choice of words. It most likely means demonetized or no longer valid, which also happened to stamps in many other countries back in the 19th Century. As an example, Cape of Good Hope triangle stamps were no longer valid for postage after 1st January 1900. Hope this helps.  |
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Post by WERT on Jun 9, 2021 19:59:46 GMT
Thank you guys...
Robert
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Post by salentin on Jun 10, 2021 11:49:13 GMT
In my "good old" Michel-cat.,there is a note,saying: "All stamps from Michel no.57 onwards are valid for postage indefinitely." (the 2 Sen in question is Mi.no.58,issued 1883 !)
However there are some exceptions: some stamps issued during WW II were declared invalid after the war, when Japan was occupied by the US.
Further more,I am not sure when this happened,all stamps with face-values in Sen were made invalid. But that cannot have happened before the late 1950th,because the last stamp of that kind,a 80 Sen definitive,was issued in 1951.
There are other rules,what shall curb the use of low face-value stamps. A certain amount of postage must be struck with a single cancel. But these rules usually are not enforced meticulously.
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Post by WERT on Jun 10, 2021 14:33:51 GMT
salentin
Thank you for the additional information..Much appreciated.
Robert
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