JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 2, 2021 0:55:46 GMT
Three recently "finished" pages relating to California and its oranges.
I say "finished" as it seems something new frequently pops up. I still have other pages to write/arrange, still waiting for that one more item I need to round out a story.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 4, 2021 1:50:53 GMT
Another lovely for my California Washington Navel pages
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 4, 2021 19:22:00 GMT
Been getting caught up on some incomplete pages:
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 4, 2021 19:26:15 GMT
The recent finding of an orange wrapper printed specifically
for an orange packing contest was an unexpected surprise:
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 4, 2021 19:30:25 GMT
And, a trio of Orange Show souvenir post cards:
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 8, 2021 19:45:05 GMT
A recent find for my Grapefruit section.
Solo, or multiple solo frankings, for thematic collectors, are a treasure to have.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 14, 2021 20:28:58 GMT
Can someone tell me what the "s" designation means in the listing of orange prices - 96s, 126s, 150, etc. I've checked produce abbreviations to no avail, nothing to correlate with bushels, pecks, boxes, cartons or by weight.
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REL1948
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Post by REL1948 on Jul 14, 2021 20:42:55 GMT
Hello Jeff,
I'm pretty sure it stands for "sacks".
Sack: a traditional unit of volume. Sacks of different commodities are of different sizes, but a typical measure is 3 bushels (about 105.7 liters based on the U.S. bushel, or 109.1 liters based on the British Imperial bushel).
A traditional unit of weight, varying for different commodities shipped in sacks. In Britain, for example, the sack was a traditional measure for wool, fixed by Edward III at 364 pounds (26 stone) in 1340. In the U.S., a sack of salt is traditionally equal to 215 pounds, a sack of cotton 140 pounds, and a sack of flour 100 pounds. A sack of concrete is traditionally 94 pounds in the U.S., 87.5 pounds in Canada.
Rob
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 14, 2021 21:19:06 GMT
While Rob may be correct, I have great difficulty in making. 96 sacks, 126 sacks etc fit the prices quoted.
How are oranges transported from farm to warehouse? I visualise standard boxes or small crates.
Could the numbers refer to the number of fruits in a crate , and thus a crate of 96, , 126, 150 etc being different sizes of box , the “s” is simply a plural. .?
Shoot me down in flames if you like, just a suggestion….
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Philatarium
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Post by Philatarium on Jul 14, 2021 21:25:02 GMT
I think it has to do with size, and the s is just a plural for, say, an orange called a '96'. I did a little Googling, and if you'll look on this page (hope the link comes through) under the section called "Citrus Shipments", you'll see mention of many of those numbers on your card. (The interface is a little wonky.) cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SBS19550203.1.44&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------1 |
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Post by Philatarium on Jul 14, 2021 21:30:13 GMT
Here's a rough screen shot of that section:  |
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REL1948
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Post by REL1948 on Jul 14, 2021 21:48:23 GMT
Philatariums' suggestion sounds right to me. I have several references to 19th century industry where I looked for an answer and found "sack". It doesn't feel like the right answer after all.
After re-reading the description several times I agree that the numbers, "96" for example are numeric noun descriptors, I think the "s" merely pluralizes them.
Rob
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 14, 2021 22:38:29 GMT
Thank you every one. This is great.
It appears to me that the number is a sizing reference, thus the number of oranges of similar size that can fill a crate.
Lets see if this link works: Pages 4 and 5.
That was an amazing response.
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REL1948
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Post by REL1948 on Jul 14, 2021 22:49:28 GMT
So Jeff, s = size?
Rob
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 14, 2021 23:33:04 GMT
REL1948 - I take it to be a pluralization of the size, much like 12s for shoes (in the USA) or 36s in pant waists, etc. Any other thoughts from anyone whos not burned out on this yet
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Londonbus1
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jul 15, 2021 6:16:31 GMT
So from your Postal card you are saying that the smaller the Orange the more expensive the orange. The crates would be the same size. Is that how I am reading this ?
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 15, 2021 15:03:27 GMT
...Any other thoughts from anyone whos not burned out on this yet The sizing information given at the bottom of this Sunkist document confirms that the "s" designates plurality. |
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 15, 2021 18:52:06 GMT
So from your Postal card you are saying that the smaller the Orange the more expensive the orange. The crates would be the same size. Is that how I am reading this ? I think it a function of more smaller oranges per box than with larger oranges. Which translates at the retail level to more product to sell (??) |
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 15, 2021 19:04:22 GMT
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 19, 2021 23:02:21 GMT
My Oranges Influence Architecture is now at 2 pages.
I have found several other stamp examples of the Sydney Opera House, both from Australia and the world, but I will call it quits ( ) with these.
The goal of a collection such as this is to tell the best story possible, not to show as many examples as exist.
I do, however, struggle to keep in mind an order of importance - Primary, Secondary and Tertiary levels of the story.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 21, 2021 22:57:37 GMT
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 29, 2021 0:59:15 GMT
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE BUREAU OF ENTOMOLOGICAL AND PLANT QUARANTINE FORM EQ-443
I found this in a lot of Texas citrus revenues a while back.
The purpose of this department was to control insects to prevent plant disease and enforce plant quarantines.
No reference to the form number was found online. Department abolished in 1953.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 29, 2021 22:33:24 GMT
NEVE-TZEDEK
I was drawn to, and purchased for, the apparent citrus oranges visible in the left and right stamps of this miniature sheet which commemorates the 120th anniversary of the community of NEVE-TZEDEK. Mr Google tells me this is located in southern Tel-Aviv, and a bit north of Jaffa, well-known for orange production. I couldn't find any information pertaining to orange production in Neve-Tzedek.
I am left with two options. The oranges and trees depicted are simply decorative or at best representing decorative orange trees within the town. Or their purpose was to draw on the Jaffa Oranges heritage of the area. (Note the camels illustrate in the background of the right stamp.) If anyone can direct me down the correct trail, I will be greatly appreciative.
As it stands this will grace my pages dedicated to the decorative aspects of orange trees.
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Post by daniel on Jul 29, 2021 23:14:16 GMT
Hi Jeff, JeffS , the stamps depict a triptych mural honouring 'Jews from North Africa who settled in Jaffa region setting up orange groves plantations in Neve Tzedek'. See this Alamy link. Daniel |
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 29, 2021 23:20:50 GMT
daniel - thank you very much. I never came across such a reference. This means much better use than what I had planned.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Aug 1, 2021 15:44:33 GMT
Citrus Marketing Partnership
I encountered this "stamp" on eBay simply and inadequately described as Judaica Israel Old Label Stamp Citrus Marketing Partnership with no further explanation. I sent a link to our friend Londonbus1 (Michael)
who has been very helpful on other stamp questions.
He replied with the following: "It most likely was attached to a receipt or on the crates with a citrus fruit delivery (any fruit it can be assumed) and reminds the buyer of the importance of returning the crates to the supplier quickly. It shows the 'fine' of 10 agorot a day up to 20 lirot. Having worked in our kitchens here whilst we were still a Kibbutz (sadly no longer) I can attest to the thieving of the crates by kids, members and other workplaces though I never saw these labels. In my time, the fines were much heavier for the non-return of those crates, which was understandable as they were good and strong and had many uses. My guess is the 60's/70's.
I didn't understand it all so my Wife assisted !!!!"
So a very grateful "thank you" to Michael and his wife for their help!
Also, here's a PPC showing men packing oranges which gives a pretty good idea of the labor involved.
Note each orange is carefully wrapped with the packing house logo facing upward.
My back is killing me from just looking at the image.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Aug 1, 2021 16:24:21 GMT
Salvation Army Slum Babies
While on the subject of orange crates or boxes, this is an interesting recycling use for sure!
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Aug 15, 2021 13:00:38 GMT
The 5-cent KGVI definitive/pictorial issue of British Honduras features a scene from a grapefruit grove.
I am delighted to have found this tidy cover franked with 4 examples, airmail to Canada, 1948.
Can someone confirm the airmail rate to Canada for a first weight letter was 19 cents at this time? I've found a couple covers at that rate with a notation to that effect. |
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Aug 28, 2021 17:18:12 GMT
My latest addition to my Citrus Philately collection:
Just to let you know that I DO include STAMPS in the collection.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Sept 4, 2021 0:58:32 GMT
I bought a PPC with this stamp described by the seller as China Oranges.
After receiving and looking close I am doubtful about the oranges ID.
Would someone with a catalog covering R.O.C. please look in 2001 area and see if this is better identified.
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