darkormex
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Post by darkormex on May 6, 2023 21:46:18 GMT
JeffS, the stamp was issued as part of a set of flowers in 2011 from the PRC. This flower is not identified but the labels that are part of this mini-sheet could be personalized with different designs, in this case fruit. The examples on Colnect have butterflies. The Sc. no. I found on Colnect is 3939.
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Post by daniel on May 6, 2023 22:32:10 GMT
JeffS, Going from ( darkormex) Darrin's answer, the 10 flowers used in 2011 are identified in this ebay link as: Peony, Lily, Sunflower, Chinese rose, Plum Flower, Dutch flower, Carnation, Azaleas, Magnolia and Camellias. Which is which, I don't know but no Orange Blossom. In 2018 a set of fruit stamps was issued see this Colnect link. The fruits are identified as pineapple, mango, cherries and oranges. Someone has tied the two events together to achieve your miniature sheet. QED  All credit to Darrin for finding the source of that flower stamp. Daniel
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 7, 2023 1:02:53 GMT
This page of Bolivia 1.50 boliviano stamps has been nearly a year in the making. I started with a single stamp thinking, easy enough. Then I wandered over to Colnect with an "oranges" search and found at least 3 listings for this design and some fine print. This was followed by a detour to Delcampe where I found an additional listing. At the Houston stamp show I visited with a Latin America dealer and with his newest Scott and stock book we pulled up yet another listing. I wouldn't doubt that yet another printing exists awaiting cataloging in the English-speaking world.
The micro-printing of the year dates at the bottom are a real strain even in magnified mode. Furthermore the red overprints, well from their light impressions, couldn't have been very effective in identifying the new issue from the obsolete without overprinting. |
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 7, 2023 1:25:09 GMT
darkormex and daniel I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that this is similar to a personalized stamp pane whereby the 1.20 flower blossom stamp is real postage and that the fruit labels are added at the whim (selection) of the buyer. The printing code under the lower left stamp is similar to that of PRC stamps, but this item has a 3-letter prefix "GTY" preceding "2018-07". There is an existing PRC stamp with this "2018-07" code, but obviously not related. Is there a philatelic term for this type of miniature sheet? Thank you for your previous input.
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on May 7, 2023 1:47:10 GMT
JeffS , I am not entirely sure how to answer your question but here is a link to just this set of personalized stamps so that you can take a look. It is noted as a Personalized - Official emission so perhaps there were only a limited number of designs available for the labels to choose from and were selected from previous stamp designs by the Chinese government. Perhaps daniel knows more. 2011 Flowers
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Post by daniel on May 7, 2023 2:52:55 GMT
In the UK, we had something called Smiler Sheets whereby you could add your picture to a special sheet of stamps. These Flower stamps appear to be along the same lines. You can see a few different uses on ebay here here and here. Now fast forward to 2018 and, apart from your example, you can find this miniature sheet with one of the ten flower stamps, with some English, explaing that they are called 'special-use' stamps.
Despite the numbering on your sheet, it does not appear in any of the China Year Books for 2018. Also, of course, in your sheet only the Flower stamps are postage stamp, the fruit stamps are labels/cinderellas. This sheet appears in the front of one of the 2011 year books and possibly gives some kind of introduction/explanation (I realise that the bottom half is a list of that year's stamps).
I hope this offers some explanation.
Daniel
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 8, 2023 22:16:10 GMT
darkormex and daniel Thank you for taking the time to search this out and for your explanations. I understand it now. In fact I did stumble across this sheet listed on eBay yesterday.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 8, 2023 23:15:37 GMT
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 8, 2023 23:55:20 GMT
Followed today by this page: |
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Post by JeffS on May 9, 2023 20:40:22 GMT
Today's orange tour takes us to New Zealand. If anyone has knowledge of any other orange-related stamps from NZ, please let me know. I couldn't find much.
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Post by JeffS on May 10, 2023 1:16:41 GMT
This page is a work in progress as I need additional information and see that I must re-write some of the text. And I see that editing on the fly did me no favors in the introductory lines. I was unable to find any online reference to the Tunisian Rooster and the Oranges other than online and catalog listings.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 14, 2023 0:28:05 GMT
Today's project took me to Mandarin Oranges and I managed to eke 2 pages from my accumulation.
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Post by paul1 on May 14, 2023 11:50:27 GMT
very interesting JeffS. The Latin specific name of the Mandarin group doesn't look to imply any sort of Chinese origin, which you might think in view of the vernacular name - was the Mandarin name originally used because of some Oriental connection do you know?
The absence of N.Z. philatelic material relating to citrus might possibly be due to the country's v. small production compared to others - growers produce around 30,000 tonnes of citrus each year. To put this into perspective, world citrus production is 60 million tonnes. New Zealand’s contribution to global citrus production is less than 0.05%.
I've had a quick look but couldn't see any other Kiwi stamps related to citrus.
Nothing really to do with citrus, but I love the summer smell of the blossom of Mock Orange
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 14, 2023 15:50:51 GMT
paul1 You ask about the source of the name mandarin for these fruit. I don't think I can answer that for sure. I have gleaned several online sources which reference. Perhaps a bit of truth lies in some. Or none. “Mandarin” was an English reference for Chinese government officials. Chinese officials wore orange colored robes similar to the color of the fruit Chinese officials clothing had buttons which resembled the fruit Mandarin is a mispronunciation of a Chinese word ... Furthermore, I found this reference which explains (?) the source of the word: This one word encapsulates an entire colonial history. In the 16th century, Portuguese explorers were among the first Europeans to reach China. Traders and missionaries followed, settling into Macau on land leased from China’s Ming dynasty rulers. The Portuguese called the Ming officials they met mandarim, which comes from menteri in Malay and, before that, mantrī in Sanskrit, both of which mean “minister” or “counselor.” .. The Latin terminology for these fruit, as well as all other plants, was developed by a Swedish botanist named Carl Linneaus in the 1700s ... Perhaps these snippets will inspire you do dig deeper if so inclined. I have not yet created a page for the origin of the word or name, thus I am groping a bit here. None the less, thank you for your inquiry. Jeff PS: regarding NZ, yes I agree. I wonder if any other non-mainstream items (like the locals or perhaps cinderellas) might reference oranges.
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Post by paul1 on May 14, 2023 18:03:00 GMT
Hi Jeff - thanks for your interestingly academic reply - well researched and I suspect within the details of your reply is much of the truth surrounding the word Mandarin. I'd completely overlooked the fact that in the U.K., yes, we do indeed use the word in a general sense to describe Chinese officials, and probably have done so for a long time. In earlier centuries, British commercial ventures involving The Royal African Company, The South Sea Company and in particular The East India Company were responsible for painting much of orient and Americas pink on the maps, though long before the advent of self-adhesive postage stamps.
Of all the information you've provided, the snippet that I have some familiarity with and which rings very loud bells in the world of natural history, is your reference to the Swedish botanist Linnaeus. Mustn't detract too much from stamps, but just to say that his achievements IMHO rank alongside those of Darwin, though in a different way. His creative Latin based scientific system of 'binomial nomenclature' gave the world 'taxonomy' - a simple yet unrivalled methodology of naming and describing the natural world, without which we'd be vastly poorer in our knowledge of understanding the relationship between living organisms.
Perhaps, since CA has likely cornered the citrus market, there's not too much to be found in other countries.;-);-)
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 14, 2023 23:49:16 GMT
paul1 and etc Here is a stamp from Sweden commemorating the aformentioned Linaeus or Linne as sometimes noted 
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Post by paul1 on May 15, 2023 7:31:50 GMT
thanks JeffS - our hero looks quite impressive. Back two thirds of a lifetime there was a v. well known London second hand book outlet called the Farringdon Road book market. Here, for very small beer, I bought the four volumes of the 1758 10th edition of Linnaeus' 'Systema Naturae'- as mentioned on your stamp. It's the 10th edition that taxonomists tend to quote from when considering this guy's final definitive list of the Latin names and descriptions of living things. Unfortunately, in a moment of stupidity, I parted with the books:-( . Thanks for posting - the guy deserves all the adulation.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 17, 2023 20:35:59 GMT
Thank you Joan cursus for bringing the existence of these Texas Sesquicentennial stamps to my attention,
as well as for gifting me the retail version sheet which caused me to seek and find the book version (and book).
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Post by cursus on May 18, 2023 4:56:25 GMT
I'm glad that the block is back where it belongs: in a very good Texas' cinderellas collection!
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 18, 2023 23:44:19 GMT
Nearly two months ago I posted an advertising cinderella for a "Pronto" brand orange peeler with text in German. Since then I acquired two identical stamps with text in English and Portuguese. These, coupled with a cover from Hong Kong with a stamp featuring an orange and a similar tool from our member rainbowhugz , fill out a page quite nicely. 
I see I inadvertently colored some text on my page to blue. |
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 19, 2023 23:20:19 GMT
Today's efforts:
So far the Clementine stamp from Algeria is the only one I know of for that citrus properly identified.
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The opera sheet is an amusing item.
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Post by daniel on May 19, 2023 23:40:22 GMT
JeffS if you do a search on Colnect for Clementine, you'll find one from Guinea, International Year 2021 Daniel
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Post by JeffS on May 19, 2023 23:56:52 GMT
JeffS if you do a search on Colnect for Clementine, you'll find one from Guinea, International Year 2021 Daniel Hi Daniel, you are correct. I avoid those issues from Guinea the best I can. Thanks for thinking of me none the less. Jeff |
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Post by JeffS on May 20, 2023 20:53:16 GMT
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 22, 2023 1:29:21 GMT
Let's travel to France and take a look at oranges there.
(I apologize as my scanner/printer is giving me fits)
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on May 31, 2023 8:20:28 GMT
A stamp issue commemorating Argentinian painter Prilidiano Pueyrredon which includes an 1865 orange vendor (el naranjero) in the upper left stamp along with tabs at the left which identify each subject.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jun 11, 2023 2:41:09 GMT
Something new for my California Citrus section, a bank draft with nearly perfect cancellation on a 2-cent Battleship documentary stamp:
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Post by Philatarium on Jun 11, 2023 3:43:21 GMT
It's a small world. I work in Pomona, CA, about a mile or so west of Indian Hill Blvd. There is no longer a 'North Pomona', but if there were, that's where our offices would be. |
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 11, 2023 8:15:59 GMT
Hi JeffS, your page on Clementines has me wondering what I am buying these days at my supermarket . You note clementines are sold as Cuties or Sweeties, I am buying “Easy Peelers” here in UK. They are small sweet and conveniently easy to peel. I suspect Clementines? |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 11, 2023 12:46:30 GMT
Alex ( vikingeck), I have just consulted my resident Clementine aficionado, my wife Amy, and she has offered her opinion that “Easy Peelers”, which she used to buy in Oxford, are indeed Clementines. Other opinions are welcome, of course. |
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All credit to Darrin for finding the source of that flower stamp.
