Mark
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Post by Mark on Sept 6, 2020 19:26:45 GMT
This is a stamp I found in some kiloware I was going through last week, and as I've never seen a stamp like it I thought it was junk and almost binned it. I had to use an app on my phone to help ID the stamp because I couldn't make head nor tail of the image on it. According to my Stanley Gibbons Catalogue it's worthless and that comes as no surprise too as it looks terrible. However, as it took me over an hour to suss out what it was and in the process I ended up learning about a place I'd never heard of I decided the stamp deserves a place in my stamp album. I think the bin might be a more fitting place though! India - Orchha State, SG3a 1/4-anna, Grey-Blue on Wove Paper
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Sept 6, 2020 20:08:11 GMT
Interesting post, Mark ! I suppose I would say that catalogue value does not tell the whole story. I think you have a very nice stamp here, and it is certainly one missing from my pre-1930 India collection, so I think you're doing all right! If you really don't want it, trade it to me rather than throwing it in the bin.... -Chris
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Mark
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Post by Mark on Sept 7, 2020 7:25:53 GMT
Beryllium Guy : It's certainly unique for a stamp! I searched elsewhere on this forum and discovered that I have probably started this thread under the wrong section as there's an area for Feudal India designated to these "uglies". I'll definitely be keeping this stamp now as it earned its keep in my album by keeping me occupied for a while. In fact that's what I get a lot of joy out of with stamp collecting as it can involve some investigative work, especially for the beginner. Thanks!
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Sept 7, 2020 7:39:02 GMT
Hello MarkNice find and I guess you used Colnect's stamp identifier app? Here is the Orchha stamps listed.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Sept 7, 2020 8:23:45 GMT
Thanks for your reply, Mark. I am glad that you have now decided to keep the stamp. In fact, the more I think about it, it's actually quite a nice find in a pile of kiloware, which is usually modern used material on paper. To get a century-old unused classic imperf with four clear margins is quite nice. And as I said, I don't even have one in my own collection, so despite the modest CV, I don't think it's that common. I have never come across one in a mixed lot, anyway. And yes, you have discovered one of the other interesting things about stamp collecting: investigating an unexpected find can lead to hours of fun trying to figure out what it is, and sometimes, it can even lead to a brand-new collecting interest that stays with you. You never know, and that is the beauty and the joy of it. Enjoy! P.S. Yes, there is another thread for Indian States so-called "uglies". I will wait and see if this thread develops any further on its own for the Orchha State before deciding whether to combine them. Let's see if others start posting anything here to justify keeping it on its own.
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Mark
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Post by Mark on Sept 7, 2020 8:28:50 GMT
Hello Mark : Nice find and I guess you used Colnect's stamp identifier app? Here is the Orchha stamps listed. Yes that's what I had to resort to. In fact that app has proved extremely helpful although I have found it doesn't always find the stamp I'm after but often times it'll recommend another in the same series. To identify, I use a combination of Stamp Mate, the Colnect App, stampalbums.com and my pdf version of Stanley Gibbons World Stamps. I get there eventually.
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Mark
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Post by Mark on Sept 7, 2020 8:35:38 GMT
Beryllium Guy : To be fair I might be misunderstanding the definition of kiloware as I buy bundles of off-paper stamps as at the moment I'm pretty much keeping most of the stamps I receive as I'm relatively new to it all. I don't want the hassle of soaking 1000's of stamps and drying them. I'll probably get the on-paper stamps further down the line when I know I'll only be keeping a small % from each bundle I buy. I end up going down all sorts of rabbit holes sometimes when searching.
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Sept 7, 2020 18:58:15 GMT
I agree with Mark about kiloware. I also find the ratio of reward to work involved (between the soaking, sorting, and cataloging, just to find a few issues) to be rather low in most instances. Which is why I tend to never "buy blind", i.e. buy packets of stamps where I do not already know that there will be some stamps in there that I do want, and that justify, by themselves, the price of the lot. Last time I bought a big pack of stamps, it was 2000 worldwide and, after many hours, less than 10% of the stamps ended up in my albums, and most of these were for countries of only quartenary interest to me at best, and stamps of fifth topical interest category for me, i.e. mere fillers. I figured I'd give it a shot, to see if it was worth my while, but the experiment did not convince me.
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Post by dosamaniac on Nov 28, 2020 11:00:52 GMT
This is indeed Orchha 1914 ¼A Orchha Coat of Arms gray blue imperf. lithograph (SG 3a) on wove paper but from position R2/3(7) in the sheet of 8 (4×2), characterized by the dropped QU.
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