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Post by fredericje on Jul 1, 2021 17:04:53 GMT
Hello everyone,
I'm in possession of a 2 cents George Washington red and imperforate stamp. I'm wondering if it can be the flat plate printing issue or the offset issue. And if it is the flat plate printing version is it the I or Ia version according to the Scott us stamp catalog. I personally think it's the flat plate printing issue because the stamp has much setoff on the backside.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 1, 2021 18:09:06 GMT
@ fredericje - a clear and enlarged image of both sides will be necessary to attempt to accurately answer your questions. |
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Post by fredericje on Jul 1, 2021 21:29:28 GMT
JeffS thank you for your reply. How can I post pictures on here?
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 1, 2021 22:10:04 GMT
Hi, fredericje: Thanks for your post. Please have a look at this thread about posting images under the General Information board, Frequently Asked Questions: thestampforum.boards.net/thread/5390/adding-images-forum-postsIf you would like to set up a TSF Image Host account, which I would strongly recommend, please just send a PM request to Steve, our AdminPlease contact me with any questions. Hope this helps. |
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Post by fredericje on Jul 2, 2021 16:26:34 GMT
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Post by fredericje on Jul 2, 2021 16:31:34 GMT
Here are the 3 url links for the photographs of the 2 cents George Washington red imperforate stamp.
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Post by khj on Jul 2, 2021 20:30:46 GMT
Your stamp is imperforate flat plate press, so can only be Type I or Ia.
The only Type Ia stamp that was originally delivered imperforate was used to make privately perforated Schermack coils, so your stamp cannot be Type Ia.
There are only 2 Type I imperforate flat plate press stamps, Scott US #409 (watermarked) and #482 (unwatermarked).
You will have to check for watermark to determine which of the 2 Scott catalog numbers.
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Post by fredericje on Jul 2, 2021 20:38:54 GMT
Thank you khj for your information. I will check for the watermark.
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Post by fredericje on Jul 2, 2021 20:45:24 GMT
khjI have read in the Scott catalog that there is a difference between version I and Ia concerning the button of the robe and the shadingline of the collar of the robe. Is this correct?
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Post by khj on Jul 2, 2021 20:47:58 GMT
Yes. You would need to provide a good resolution scan (at least 400dpi) to see that clearly. Way too hard to see it from camera pics.
But as mentioned, by process of elimination, it cannot be Type Ia (unless you have discovered the only known copy of an imperforate flat plate Type Ia that escaped private perforation).
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Post by fredericje on Jul 2, 2021 20:51:30 GMT
I do believe that what I've seen through a magnifier is that the shadingline of the robe collar is strong and seems fluid and is in one line.
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Post by khj on Jul 2, 2021 20:51:41 GMT
I have read in the Scott catalog that there is a difference between version I and Ia concerning the button of the robe and the shadingline of the collar of the robe. Is this correct? I've tried to make my frequently verbose posts more brief. But I may be sacrificing other useful distinguishing feature details. I suggest visiting Types of the 2ยข Washington Flat Plate and Rotary: Types I, Ia, II, and III for more nitty-gritty details.  (trying to stay true to my attempt in brevity) k |
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Post by khj on Jul 2, 2021 20:58:43 GMT
I do believe that what I've seen through a magnifier is that the shadingline of the robe collar is strong and seems fluid and is in one line. You should be able to see a clear continuous toga rope line and toga button without magnifier -- it's a pretty significant difference once you've seen a Type Ia, unless the stamp is damaged/faded. In the link I provided, you can click on the individual underlined numbers (they are links) to get a blow up of the stamp pic that illustrates the specific difference in that area. The pic you provided is a little too blurry for me to have commented -- but as is, it looks like Type I (pending a scan rather than a camera pic). I do not see a sharp clear continuous toga rope line nor toga button outline. |
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Post by fredericje on Jul 2, 2021 21:05:29 GMT
Thank you khj for your comment. I will try to make a more sharp image soon. And thanks for helping me out!
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Post by darkormex on Jul 2, 2021 23:58:32 GMT
Thank you for that website link khj, I have a ton of these Washington 2c stamps that I always mean to try to identify but the Scott Catalogue defeats me. |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 3, 2021 11:06:33 GMT
Here are the 3 url links for the photographs of the 2 cents George Washington red imperforate stamp. Thanks for providing the links to the images, Frederic. I hope you don't mind, but I have taken the liberty of using those links to create a composite image for you, and I have inserted that image into your earlier post to make it easier for members to see what you are talking about. If you still need some help in learning how to insert the images into the posts yourself, please feel free to PM me. Thanks to Kim ( khj ) for the link and for your informative answers. As one who has written my own share of verbose posts, I think that yours have been just fine!  Stay stampy, all!  |
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(trying to stay true to my attempt in brevity) k
