zipper
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Post by zipper on Aug 26, 2022 10:16:52 GMT
1861 London to Castle Fraser Aberdeenshire Redirect Aberdeen Experimental Duplex Cancel Adressed to Colonel C. McKenzie Fraser    Link to FraserCastle |
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 26, 2022 11:45:41 GMT
Duplex cancels consist of two parts joined, the town name circular date stamp + a barred numeral, ( "1" for Aberdeen.) The latter part was usually a KILLER to obliterate the stamp preventing re use. Frequently clogged up with ink , between 1850 and 1870 various Experimental steel duplexes were used usually with a much cleaner impression. Evidently the Colonel was not at Castle Fraser, so the letter was readdressed to St Leonards on Sea which need a second stamp to pay for that journey The present Castle Fraser dating from around 1575 on an earlier 1450 foundation is just 12 miles from my home, is now owned and run by the National Trust for Scotland , a charity which maintains historic sites which have been surrendered by the family to pay crippling death duty taxes. A typical 16th Century defensive square tower which has had later additional features from the 1600s and again in 1790s -1820 period , turrets, a courtyard and more living accommodation in what is called "Scots Baronial style" 
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 28, 2022 12:08:32 GMT
This Soldier's letter from the Crimea in 1855 is a bit of a puzzle to me. Ordinary Soldiers got a concession rate of 1d on letters , Officer's Concession was 3d and regular mail was 6d While the Pipe Major of a regiment is not a commissioned officer he is a senior Warrant officer, so I assume the rate is 3d to pay hence the Manuscript "3" .  Normally stamps are not added if not available in the field and the recipient pays the 3d. This has 3 x1d red stamps cancelled in London so is this POSTAGE DUE ? or was the letter and contents over weight so only partly paid , needing another 3d . I was sold it as "6d rate Part paid in cash" but I am doubtful . anyone able to comment ? |
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Sept 7, 2022 18:20:15 GMT
GB 1876 1d Red Pl.172 Cover with Tunbridge Wells 820 Duplex to Richmond Viscount Melville IV  |
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Sept 7, 2022 18:23:50 GMT
GB 1876 1d Red Pl.171 Cover with Oundle 601 Duplex to Grosvenor Sq Viscount Melville IV  |
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Sept 7, 2022 18:27:02 GMT
GB 1876 1d Rede Pl.191 Cover with Weymouth 873 Duplex to Grosvenor Sq Viscount Melville IV  |
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Sept 7, 2022 18:37:11 GMT
Was also bidding on an Earl, but lost that one.
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Sept 19, 2022 2:57:27 GMT
GB 1848 1d Red 2 Margins Entire Son/Father with King William St Straight Line From the Prodigal Son   |
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Sept 21, 2022 3:11:26 GMT
1869 Cover to Frogmore, Windsor Two Penny Reds Can't decipher the name of the addressee. Any ideas? Bought it because of the Frogmore Location, which always reminds me of Harry.   |
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Sept 21, 2022 3:26:23 GMT
zipper, I read "Her Serene Highness, Princess Henrietta of Schleswig-Holstein".
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Sept 21, 2022 3:31:35 GMT
Thank you ever so much!
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Post by daniel on Sept 21, 2022 17:28:08 GMT
1869 Cover to Frogmore, Windsor Two Penny Reds Can't decipher the name of the addressee. Any ideas? Bought it because of the Frogmore Location, which always reminds me of Harry. Princess Henriette would have been visiting her brother Prince Christian, who was living at Frogmore House at that time with his wife Princess Helena, a daughter of Queen Victoria. Several Schleswig-Holsteins are buried at Frogmore. As is Queen Victoria herself alongsIde Prince Albert in the Royal Mausoleum. It was possible, up until 2007, to visit the interior of the Royal Mausoleum on 3 days each year which I recall I did probably around 1988. |
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Post by vikingeck on Sept 21, 2022 18:35:22 GMT
GB 1848 1d Red 2 Margins Entire Son/Father with King William St Straight Line From the Prodigal Son The post office in King William St in the heart of the financial centre of the City ofLondon for a number of years housed the GPO RoyalMail postal Museum and archives before it moved to the current new building . daniel who obviously knows his London better than my failing memory , kindly and discretely corrects me. The postal museum was in fact in King Edward street not King William as I said. Mea Culpa. Too many Kings ! but still a fascinating letter zipper. One wonders what he did to get expelled from the family home. |
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Sept 30, 2022 4:38:55 GMT
1869 Cover to Frogmore, Windsor Two Penny Reds Can't decipher the name of the addressee. Any ideas? Bought it because of the Frogmore Location, which always reminds me of Harry. OMG! I am losing my mind, and it keeps getting worse! I didn't buy this cover! I thought I did, but it turns out I didn't. Am so sorry for my STUPID mistake. |
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Post by forth on Oct 10, 2022 14:01:00 GMT
Cover to Liverpool with Scots Local " Duke Street" cancel.   |
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REL1948
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Post by REL1948 on Oct 10, 2022 15:39:15 GMT
As I’ve mentioned before, I’m collecting 1841 (SG8 / 12) one penny reds with my initials, R L. I’m attempting to assemble an RL stamp from each of the nearly 130 different plates that were used for that series. My latest addition (and my first cover with RL so far) hit it out of the park and forms the flagship of my little collection so far. As of this date, I have 48 of the 130 plates. Finding new examples is going very slowly but each new find is rewarding.
This entire was sent from Greenock, Scotland to Edinburgh on Valentine’s day, February 14th, 1844. The stamp is from plate number 35 and carries the lovely Greenock Maltese Cross cancel.
Anthony Duffy, the sender and a gifted penman writes an interesting letter about ‘junk’. I love his signature.
Rob
   
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 10, 2022 15:58:46 GMT
Thanks Rob REL1948 , I was intrigued and had to look up to see if there was a specific meaning for " JUNK" back in 1844 and found "Old cable or cordage used when untwisted for making gaskets, swabs, oakum, etc." " Oakum-picking was the teasing out of fibres from old ropes and was very hard on the fingers. The loose fibres were often sold to ship-builders for mixing with tar to seal the lining of wooden craft. They could also be used to make matting or bandaging." Such work was given to inmates of the poorhouse or workhouse to pay for their keep also could be a punishment on sailing ships for misdemeanours. I cannot find BELLARNO (sic) but there is a village of BALERNO which had several water mills for paper making and working Flax |
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Post by forth on Oct 29, 2022 18:39:16 GMT
Another Scots Local from my home town.  
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Oct 30, 2022 19:16:09 GMT
I do not specifically collect penny red covers but with recent activity on this thread I recalled I had one amongst my Nova Scotia collection. It is open on both ends which makes me think it was used as a wrapper on a book or magazine. The words Book Post along the top back this up. The INSUFFICIENTLY PREPAID stamping ads more interest. It passed through Halifax, Nova Scotia in April or August of 1876 on it's way to Granville in the Annapolis Valley. It is better known as Granville Ferry today. I did a Google search on Samuel Pickup (1859-1935) today and discovered he was of historical importance as a merchant, farmer, ship builder and owner as well as a municipal politician from the young age of 18. He was then a federal and provincial politician from 1904 till near his passing in the 1930's. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Walter_Willet_Pickup That is before my time and so not a name I am familiar with despite having political interests.   |
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zipper
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Post by zipper on Nov 7, 2022 18:53:27 GMT
GB 1854 1d Red 3 Margins Entire with Shaftesbury 698 Numeral in Blue - Refused  |
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Post by daniel on Dec 10, 2022 6:00:42 GMT
This particular Penny Red cover from 1859 took much investigating to understand it. The reverse tells us that it was sent from Craig Brothers of South Bridge, Edinburgh. They were Woollen Drapers and Hatters and had both retail and wholesale premises. It is addressed to Messrs Stewart & Blackwood, Writers, Peebles (Scotland). Writers, in this context, means solicitors. However, I believe that the firm was actually Stuart & Blackwood founded in 1843. Peebles, at that time, was involved in the woollen industry and hence the connection to Craig Brothers. During the 1840s railway boom Peebles was by-passed by the North British Railway (NBR) who had decided not to build a railway from Peebles to Edinburgh. The locals then went about organising one themselves and attracted sufficient investment to plan build and run The Peebles Railway which was was opened in 1855. Their railway ran from Peebles as a 19-mile branch line linked to the NBR Edinburgh-Hawick route. Four woollen mills would be built in Peebles. Stuart & Blackwood were one of several firms involved in the railway and were also agents for The British Linen Bank who had partly financed the railway. By 1867 they had split up and Blackwood had formed Blackwood & Smith, a firm of solicitors that still exists in Peebles to this day. The Penny Red has an interesting combined cancellation introduced c1858. 131 is, of course, the Post Office number for Edinburgh. The circular postmark part has a delta and N as code for the hours, this was peculiar to Edinburgh. It is dated 7th October 1859. There is a Peebles backstamp for the following day and Craig Brothers embossed on the flap.   Source material: Duncan, John Stuart (2005). The Royal Burgh of Peebles in the nineteenth century : the impact of a locally organised railway on a moribund Scottish county town. PhD thesis The Open University. |
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Post by nbstamper on Dec 10, 2022 13:06:52 GMT
 A mourning cover just to add a little variety to the thread. |
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Post by zipper on Feb 26, 2023 13:34:49 GMT
QV 1d Red on Cover. Debtors Prison White Cross London.  |
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Post by zipper on Feb 26, 2023 20:20:23 GMT
QV 1856 1d Red on Cover Sir John Ramsden MUNCASTER Castle Ravenglass Cumberland  |
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Post by REL1948 on Apr 6, 2023 1:51:31 GMT
I feel really lucky to have obtained this elusive stamp for my Line Engraved collection. This four-margin beauty (on a piece no less) is postmarked Liverpool September 28, 1843.
I’ve identified it as SG8 BS20b in the Stanley Gibbons ‘Queen Victoria Volume I, Part I’. It has the 1842-43 10 o’clock ray flaw and clearly shows the P converted to an R characteristic where the tail on the R was hand cut onto what was first a P. This example also has a guide dot in the southeast corner near the tilted L. Note the faint bluing, also a characteristic of stamps from this plate era.
Adding up all of the clues, this stamp is clearly from plate 31. The plate was first put to press on the 26th of January 1843, registered on the 27th of January, withdrawn from press on July the 6th and destroyed on October 7th 1843.
The lovely Maltese cross cancellation and CDS correctly falls into the time span that plate 31 was in usage.
Rob
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Post by zipper on Apr 6, 2023 2:13:04 GMT
Very happy for you, Rob.
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Post by zipper on Apr 16, 2023 20:28:11 GMT
GB. QV. 1855. 1d red on wrapper to London. Boxed 'Queen Street' cancel.   Winchester House |
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Post by vikingeck on Apr 17, 2023 10:49:17 GMT
GB. QV. 1855. 1d red on wrapper to London. Boxed 'Queen Street' cancel. The boxed [ QUEEN STREET] is of a type Known as a "SCOTS LOCAL" cancellation . These were used at small collecting offices which did not have the date and time handstamps. They accepted mail which was then transferred to the Main General Post Office in this case in Glasgow ( the dated postmark is on the reverse ) There are many different styles of these Scots Locals and some from tiny rural villages are very scarce. |
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Post by vikingeck on Apr 17, 2023 11:22:24 GMT
Acquired at the Recent Scottish Congress. A cover from the CRIMEAN WAR period 1856, only partly paid with a penny red so charged an additional fee on receipt. Military personnel were given a postage concession for mail whilst serving in the Crimean war , 3 pennies for Officers and 1 penny for other ranks. In this case the sender is in the Royal Navy on HMS Queen, Admiral Dundas' flagship for the Black Sea Fleet blockading the Crimea. The writer whose name I cannot read or decipher (Could possibly be Hugh M Struan) has only added a single stamp on a nice letter to his friend Lt T M Kelsall (Theophilus Moultrie Kelsall) who is on HMS Cressy back in England . As the rate should be 3d Lt Kelsall has to pay the concession shortfall of 2d on receipt  The letter is marked " From the Black Sea Fleet / via Marseilles " so by fast Packet ship from Constantinople to France then by train to Calais and on to England The Lt is on HMS Cressy which the writer has heard is anchored at SHEERNESS , but as is the way of things , ships sail and mail could be diverted so he addresses it :- Lieut T M Kelsall R N.
HMS Cressy
Sheerness
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