sudbury12000
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What I collect: Canada, Great Britain, Germany, World Pre 1925
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Post by sudbury12000 on Nov 8, 2022 18:25:39 GMT
Hello, is this a common error? I have had many of this stamp in my collection, but never noticed this before. Anyone else? I have added the front and back scan.   |
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renden
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What I collect: Canada-USA-France-Lithuania-Austria--Germany-Mauritius-French Colonies in Africa
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Post by renden on Nov 8, 2022 19:19:25 GMT
Hello, is this a common error? I have had many of this stamp in my collection, but never noticed this before. Anyone else? I have added the front and back scan. Imperf pair?? Unitrade 953a?? high CV for NH-VF |
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tomiseksj
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What I collect: Worldwide stamps/covers, Cinderellas, Ohio Prepaid Sales Tax Receipts, U.S. WWII Ration ephemera
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Post by tomiseksj on Nov 8, 2022 19:30:19 GMT
I think it more likely to be a pair of the booklet stamp 948, imperf between -- not listed in my 2014 Unitrade.
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renden
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Post by renden on Nov 8, 2022 19:58:17 GMT
I think it more likely to be a pair of the booklet stamp 948, imperf between -- not listed in my 2014 Unitrade. Not listed in UNITRADE 2022-2023 (just got the new cat) in the booklet descriptions - well ! I wish our good friend and contributor WERT was still around - what a great stamper !.....but he left us as many members know René |
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sudbury12000
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What I collect: Canada, Great Britain, Germany, World Pre 1925
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Post by sudbury12000 on Nov 9, 2022 1:41:02 GMT
it's an unsevered coil pair. The production didn't separate each strip of 100. Coils are made up in several rows at a time and scored between the rolls so they can be easily separated to be sold. Shipped usually in a tube with 10 rolls of 100 connected but scored so as to easily snap apart. Sometimes the scoring was missed or not deep enough so you get these unsevered coil pairs both with and without scorelines... from a collector on Facebook. Not common, but not super rare either
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Nov 9, 2022 2:16:11 GMT
I'm pretty sure that there is mention of this made somewhere in the catalogue, with the explanation of an unsevered coil and the additional info that the complete lack of any score line between the stamps makes it much more valuable than a pair that shows a score line, even a very faint one. The examples I've seen for sale that had score lines always had them visible from the front side.
Ryan
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Post by uppercanadian on Nov 9, 2022 3:31:41 GMT
Sudbury Guy is correct. This is a 1987 coil that is unsevered.
Ryan is also correct, for some coils, there are listings for "imperf pairs" and "imperf pairs without scoreline". For instance, the 34-Cent Parliament coil from 1985 (Scott# 952)
The listing for Sudbury Guys Imperf Pair is as follows:
953 - 36-Cent Dar red DF/F, May 19, 1987
953a - Imperf Pair - $375.00
There is no mention of scoreline for #953. Of course, that does not mean it cannot be found both with and without a scoreline.
It is a nice find Sudbury Guy!!
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Post by dgdecker on Nov 9, 2022 3:50:00 GMT
Looks like you made a great find Sudbury12000.
Congratulations. A keen eye.
David
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Nov 9, 2022 6:27:15 GMT
Sudbury Guy is correct. This is a 1987 coil that is unsevered. Ryan is also correct, for some coils, there are listings for "imperf pairs" and "imperf pairs without scoreline". For instance, the 34-Cent Parliament coil from 1985 (Scott# 952) The listing for Sudbury Guys Imperf Pair is as follows: 953 - 36-Cent Dar red DF/F, May 19, 1987 953a - Imperf Pair - $375.00 There is no mention of scoreline for #953. Of course, that does not mean it cannot be found both with and without a scoreline. The Unitrade listings for imperforate coil pairs are virtually always for stamps missing all perforations. This isn't the case for sudbury12000 - his stamps are imperforate between two stamps, but there are never supposed to be perforations there in any case, and the perforations which are present on his stamps are exactly where they're supposed to be. That's the proof that he has an unsevered coil. The imperforate coil pair or strip, unless it explicitly mentions an orientation which can only occur with an unsevered coil pair or references a scoreline found on a poorly severed pair, refers to stamps with no perforation at all around or between the stamps, like the middle 11 stamps from the strip seen below (this post is taken from the TSF thread entitled " Canada: Stamps: General"). In the case of the #953 shown, an imperf pair will be a vertical pair, one on top of the other, as in the example shown below. The catalogue listing for #952 (same design but 34c brown instead of 36c red) is for a block of 4, imperforate vertically in between, which can only happen with unsevered coils (coils don't come in blocks! only in strips). Ryan Ryan,I have another strip of the eight cent if you would like it.Just say yes and I'll send it along. I'm already set up with the Caricature coil pairs, thanks very much - it's the Centennial pair that I was ogling! ha ha For those wondering about the mix of perf and imperf on Frog's 8 cent strip, the perforator for modern Canadian coil stamps would hit 12 stamps at a time. On occasion, it would fail to fire and you'd end up with a strip of 13 imperf between stamps. Dealers / collectors like imperf pairs so almost all of them have been cut up, but once in a long while you'll see an intact strip of 13, and once in an equally long while you'll see something like Frog has, from the end of the imperf strip - a nice mix of perf and imperf. Here's an image nabbed from a Sparks Auctions listing showing a still-intact strip of 13.  Ryan |
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