stainlessb
Member 
qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep
Posts: 4,912
What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great Britain Queen Victoria
Member is Online
|
Post by stainlessb on Jan 29, 2020 2:57:49 GMT
In the latest sorting I find two stamps, what I believe to be for the delivery of newspapers, but Journeaux Dagbalen in Google translate comes up as Bagdalen Newspaper, although Journeaux by itself translate to Journal, If anyone knows a more accurate meaning please chime in. This is the first time I have seen these canceled (in the stamps I have, and those I see offered for sale are typically mint/unused, so a nice surprise the 5F stamp is more intriguing= I do not recall seeing this overprint in my many persuals of the catalogues- Anyone know the history/meaning of this?  |
|
hrdoktorx
Member
Posts: 7,216
What I collect: France (and French territories), Africa, Canada, USA, Germany, Guatemala, stamps about science, flags, maps, stamps on stamps...
|
Post by hrdoktorx on Jan 29, 2020 6:07:06 GMT
"Journaux" and "Dagbladen" both mean "Newspapers", in French and Dutch. Belgium was an officially bilingual country (it is now trilingual, with German added), hence the double meaning. So these overprints are for newspaper stamps.
"Colis postal" means "parcel post".
|
|
tobben63
Member
Stamp eat sleep repeat
Posts: 1,874 
What I collect: I collect to much, world wide!
|
Post by tobben63 on Jan 29, 2020 7:04:23 GMT
|
|
cjoprey
Member
Scanning stamps for my website...
Posts: 1,504
What I collect: Belgium (predominantly), British Commonwealth (older ones), WW (whatever comes my way...)
|
Post by cjoprey on Jan 29, 2020 10:10:52 GMT
|
|
blaamand
Member
Currently creating custom pages until 1940.
Posts: 1,459
What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - not enough time...
|
Post by blaamand on Jan 29, 2020 13:56:13 GMT
|
|
stainlessb
Member
qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep
Posts: 4,912
What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great Britain Queen Victoria
Member is Online
|
Post by stainlessb on Jan 29, 2020 14:11:29 GMT
blaamand I will have to look closer , but at first glance each stamp of mine is of a different type (?)
|
|
blaamand
Member
Currently creating custom pages until 1940.
Posts: 1,459
What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - not enough time...
|
Post by blaamand on Jan 29, 2020 16:15:09 GMT
Yes, agree, looks like your 1 Fr is Type II - which is somewhat less common than type 1  |
|
stainlessb
Member
qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep
Posts: 4,912
What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great Britain Queen Victoria
Member is Online
|
Post by stainlessb on Jan 30, 2020 2:19:59 GMT
another interesting find/curio The tab... not so much the 70 c stamp the tab has to do with the Ostende Dover which was apparently a mail boat (and celebrated), but unsure of the signifigance of this unless it was another celebratory event?  |
|
darkormex
Member
Swinging through Switzerland and getting tied up in Thailand
Posts: 2,198
What I collect: The World...just printing and mounting as I go...call me crazy!
|
Post by darkormex on Jan 30, 2020 2:35:35 GMT
I have never seen this label, or any label for that matter, attached to this stamp. If I remember correctly, the stamp is pretty common, correct? Regardless, this is interesting as I never knew it was printed this way. Was this part of a booklet?
Also, overall, it is interesting looking back through this Belgium thread. There are a lot of interesting stamps and questions here.
|
|
tobben63
Member
Stamp eat sleep repeat
Posts: 1,874
What I collect: I collect to much, world wide!
|
Post by tobben63 on Jan 30, 2020 3:32:02 GMT
Worth noting that these 1929 Newspaper overprints come in 2 types. The images below is showing the differences, snipped from my album pages. Not the best quality but the best I have. Something else to look out for.... and I am still missing most of them  Well Jon ( blaamand ), If you had taken your time to look closer you would have seen that colnect has bot types described in that link!   |
|
stainlessb
Member
qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep
Posts: 4,912
What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great Britain Queen Victoria
Member is Online
|
Post by stainlessb on Jan 30, 2020 4:58:20 GMT
darkormex Yes, It is indeed a common stamp, I must have 40-50 dupes if not more. As to a booklet, I have no idea, it was hinged to a quadrille page (part of a small collection i won at auction) as you see it. This was one of those "oh, what have we here?" moments, part of the joys of collections is there is no explanation as to why someone decided to save something. The fact it is perforated all sides is interesting (maybe an official cinderella?) there are "official" stamps with this boat depicted. Hopefully someone knows the story behind this?!
|
|
blaamand
Member
Currently creating custom pages until 1940.
Posts: 1,459
What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - not enough time...
|
Post by blaamand on Jan 30, 2020 17:30:03 GMT
Described yes, but not giving a meaningful illustration of the delicate difference. Pictures are better than thousand words you know I was struggling a bit to see the differences between the two types. Therefore I made the illustrations I provided for our album pages, to visualize it. Just found them relevant to the previous posts in this thread to share with others, in case others were struggling to see the difference to. |
|
salentin
Member
collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
Posts: 6,527
|
Post by salentin on Jan 30, 2020 18:26:47 GMT
I have never seen this label, or any label for that matter, attached to this stamp. Regardless, this is interesting as I never knew it was printed this way. Was this part of a booklet?... It is from a booklet.There are many more like this one.This one is listed by Michel as R 35 / W 97. Value: Michel-Mark 4.- (1994/95) |
|
brightonpete
Departed
Rest in Peace
On a hike at Goodrich-Loomis
Posts: 5,110
|
Post by brightonpete on Jan 30, 2020 20:40:00 GMT
It is from a booklet.There are many more like this one.This one is listed by Michel as R 35 / W 97. Value: Michel-Mark 4.- (1994/95) Welcome back, salentin! Long time, no see. You must be all settled in now! |
|
tobben63
Member
Stamp eat sleep repeat
Posts: 1,874
What I collect: I collect to much, world wide!
|
Post by tobben63 on Jan 30, 2020 20:54:08 GMT
Described yes, but not giving a meaningful illustration of the delicate difference. Pictures are better than thousand words you know I was struggling a bit to see the differences between the two types. Therefore I made the illustrations I provided for our album pages, to visualize it. Just found them relevant to the previous posts in this thread to share with others, in case others were struggling to see the difference to. Yep, I know. But Colnect is a wiki, the users build it so there is just a question before someone upload a image. What I react on was that it was 'useless' information in your words. Michel has the same description, and I doubt SG and Scott does it beter? But I agree, things like this should be illustrated. |
|
blaamand
Member
Currently creating custom pages until 1940.
Posts: 1,459
What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - not enough time...
|
Post by blaamand on Jan 30, 2020 22:36:58 GMT
Exactly my point Tobben, no catalog is providing a useful illustration on these types, not even COB, that's why I simply had to make them myself đ
Great concept that users can contribute to Colnect with information.
Please feel free to upload these if you want to! (As you know, better images than those I shared above are available on the custom Belgium pages you already have:) )
|
|
stainlessb
Member
qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep
Posts: 4,912
What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great Britain Queen Victoria
Member is Online
|
Post by stainlessb on Jan 30, 2020 22:42:40 GMT
although they would have a limited audience, I can see merit to references that go into grea5ter detail with either very clear (and large enough to see) photos, or black and white illustrations. I get frustrated with some of the "details" provided in the catalogues that are little more than a small circular portion of the stamps with some arrows pointing , or small circles around something.... without a lot of explanation
and then there are the shades..... a color guide to shade would be great!
i appreciate the postings with a series of shades- even if each scanner and monitor is different, it's often a better point of reference than the catalogues
|
|
blaamand
Member
Currently creating custom pages until 1940.
Posts: 1,459
What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - not enough time...
|
Post by blaamand on Jan 31, 2020 9:18:44 GMT
I have a few different color guides, sometimes useful but often I just find them frustrating. The challenge is it seems the various catalog publishers cannot agree on what to name the different shades. Wouldn't it have been great if someone established a standardized universal chart for shades! Presume that will never happen, none of the publishers will probably give up on their categorization. Another challenge is that even within the same catalog/publisher the used name to describe various shades or even basic colors are not necessarily consistent  |
|
angore
Member
Posts: 5,702
What I collect: WW, focus on British Empire
|
Post by angore on Jan 31, 2020 10:47:28 GMT
There are still guides (printed or web) that have obscure images to show differences between stamps. Many use black and white line art or ancient half tones. Machins are a classic examples. You see terms like thin, very thin, and thick.
|
|
tobben63
Member
Stamp eat sleep repeat
Posts: 1,874
What I collect: I collect to much, world wide!
|
Post by tobben63 on Jan 31, 2020 10:55:55 GMT
Agree with you Jon. An ISO standard for colours and colour names would have been great. In the Norwegian catalogue there are names like sea-green and gras-green. What colour has the sea? And are all gras the same colour?
Michel color guide say something sensible (I don't have it here) about colour names, but it is their standard. To get the catalogue issuers to cooperate on this I think is harder than to get a man to the planet mars.
|
|
brightonpete
Departed
Rest in Peace
On a hike at Goodrich-Loomis
Posts: 5,110
|
Post by brightonpete on Jan 31, 2020 13:47:16 GMT
How about a consensus on just NUMBERS?
|
|
blaamand
Member
Currently creating custom pages until 1940.
Posts: 1,459
What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - not enough time...
|
Post by blaamand on Jan 31, 2020 13:48:44 GMT
Haha - good comparison! I think you are right, unfortunately  |
|
stainlessb
Member
qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep
Posts: 4,912
What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great Britain Queen Victoria
Member is Online
|
Post by stainlessb on Feb 22, 2020 1:16:54 GMT
a pleasant surprise today as I was moving stamps from a lot of dealer stock cards onto Varios, and a first for me Yvert 425 a tĂȘte-bĂȘche gutter pair  and postally used Yvert 425 tĂȘte-bĂȘche no gutter pair ( this could also be 424a, just a bit faded... maybe) I'll compare with others in a bit  all in the same day!  |
|
tobben63
Member
Stamp eat sleep repeat
Posts: 1,874
What I collect: I collect to much, world wide!
|
Post by tobben63 on Feb 22, 2020 3:51:33 GMT
That is two nice findings |
|
renden
Member
Posts: 9,164
What I collect: Canada-USA-France-Lithuania-Austria--Germany-Mauritius-French Colonies in Africa
|
Post by renden on Mar 26, 2020 15:11:36 GMT
I am presently working on Belgique (Belgium) stamps and switching the inventory from Scott International Vol 1 (SI1) to Steiner pages. I did receive a nice assortment of stamps from Stan, in Sacramento, stainlessb - all stamps from a want list I sent to him - Working on the Coat of Arms series (Scott 1935-48 #s 265-282) I came upon 2 shades of the 10c olive and also the 10c darker olive (COB 420a) with a nice Publicity Label-SARIBO- COB PU74, I think, shown here MNH  |
|
cjoprey
Member
Scanning stamps for my website...
Posts: 1,504
What I collect: Belgium (predominantly), British Commonwealth (older ones), WW (whatever comes my way...)
|
Post by cjoprey on Mar 26, 2020 19:08:28 GMT
Very nice advertising stamp renden! |
|
renden
Member
Posts: 9,164
What I collect: Canada-USA-France-Lithuania-Austria--Germany-Mauritius-French Colonies in Africa
|
Post by renden on Mar 26, 2020 19:31:13 GMT
Very nice advertising stamp renden ! Special thanks to you !! I do not know where it came from  Rene |
|
stainlessb
Member
qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep
Posts: 4,912
What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great Britain Queen Victoria
Member is Online
|
Post by stainlessb on Mar 28, 2020 18:02:01 GMT
Received today in a lot that was labeled Belgie Mint precancels, I noticed these and purchased, although there are some overprints I do not have! Not sure if the seller didn't know what these were or just threw them in to get rid of them  |
|
cjoprey
Member
Scanning stamps for my website...
Posts: 1,504
What I collect: Belgium (predominantly), British Commonwealth (older ones), WW (whatever comes my way...)
|
Post by cjoprey on Mar 28, 2020 21:02:02 GMT
Lovely tĂȘte-bĂȘche with gutter AND advertising label there Stan ( stainlessb)! Don't think I've ever seen a set like that before. |
|
renden
Member
Posts: 9,164
What I collect: Canada-USA-France-Lithuania-Austria--Germany-Mauritius-French Colonies in Africa
|
Post by renden on Mar 28, 2020 22:01:46 GMT
Lovely tĂȘte-bĂȘche with gutter AND advertising label there Stan ( stainlessb )! Don't think I've ever seen a set like that before. Beauties....have seen them in COB catalog Rene |
|
