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Post by renden on Mar 29, 2020 17:42:19 GMT
Belgique S/S B279 (Scott) - May 1941 - Arms types of 1940-41 - surtax used for relief work - I have 2 copies and they both were given to me by Jon blaamand !! Thanks again - René  |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jul 15, 2020 23:34:44 GMT
Today I thought I was finally back to sorting and going to Vario pages France... which I was for a couple of stock pages, and then I discovered a page of Belgium with these on them, which i thought interesting enough to scan and post. Several with the advertisement tag/margin, and two nice airmail cancellations (wish there was a date!)  |
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cjoprey
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Post by cjoprey on Jul 16, 2020 8:25:14 GMT
Hi Stan ( stainlessb ) - that air post cancel is from the early 1930's. It usually has a circular date cancel next to it on the left hand side. The writing is "use the air post" in Flemish and Walloon. Here's a recent example from eBay of the full cancel:  |
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jul 16, 2020 10:44:17 GMT
Nice advertisements labels stainlessb! For their relative low catalog value I see them unexpectedly seldom, you were lucky to find them by chance - congratulations  |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 26, 2021 23:19:44 GMT
I'm going through the "lot" I recently won at auction for next to not-much-at-all! and while I went after for some mint stamps with do not deliver tabs, it is really a surprising assortment! Now that I have them all on one card- color shades (row 3 20 c )and there are another 9 medallions not shown here- the unused 8 centimes lilac (2nd row #4) no gum) is another surprise! This was apparently a few pages of stamps removed from more than the one-of-each collector (which there is absolutely nothing wrong with that!!) sometimes I get lucky!!  |
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Post by stainlessb on Jul 20, 2021 0:26:30 GMT
a nice small lot I received today 1884 - 1891 This fills a couple of holes and upgrades a couple more. Listed as Postage Stamps Belgium King Leopold II used, even though the 35 centimes brown appears to be MH. Offered $12 and got it!  |
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Sept 13, 2021 15:13:27 GMT
Received this lot today, bought for a ridicules low amount of money. I had all of them already, but could not resist them at this price (NOK 48,- $5,52 €4,69 inkluded postage) King Leopold II 1905 series with both color versions of 1Fr.  click on image to see a large version. |
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 13, 2021 15:57:51 GMT
and several nice postmarks!!
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Post by tobben63 on Sept 13, 2021 17:38:54 GMT
Monted on the page.  |
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 24, 2021 1:36:28 GMT
I purchased these on what seemed a very reasonable buy-me-now price.... I haven't actually looked them up to know what they are, but I am guessing, one is printed in France and one in Walloon? cjoprey ?  |
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cjoprey
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Post by cjoprey on Oct 1, 2021 0:50:46 GMT
Hey Stan stainlessb - they are from a stamp exposition. The left hand one is in Belgian French (Walloon) and the right one is in Belgian Dutch (Flemish). Some digging showed they can be found in the back of the COB Belgian catalogue, released in 1955 for the 40th anniversary of the Brussels Amicale Philatelique:  |
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Jan 29, 2022 21:18:53 GMT
I am thinking of you, cjoprey , as I post this. I recently received an envelope of Belgian stamps from a giveaway on another forum. These two stamps from the Lion Rampant definitive set of 1951-75 were in the mix. Both have a large capital "T" as you can see below, either overprinted or possibly hand-stamped as a cancellation. The underlying stamps are Sc. nos. 403 and 404. In Scott, there are no surcharges listed that identify these and I wondered if you or any of our other members know anything about this? I do have a sense that someone posted about this previously but I did not find anything after searching the forum. If this question is answered elsewhere on TSF, let me know. Thank you in advance.  |
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Post by youpiao on Jan 29, 2022 21:43:47 GMT
Darrin, a T handstamp on a cover indicates postage due. Are these perhaps listed in the postage due section of Scott?
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Post by darkormex on Jan 29, 2022 21:47:51 GMT
Ted ( youpiao ), thank you for the reply. They are not. In fact, in Scott, there is a gap between the postage due series of 1949-53 and a later numerals set that incorporates the Lion Rampant symbol, that started issuance in 1966. This design indeed incorporates the large capital T, as well, but it is part of the design. I am wondering now if it is a type of postage due not listed in Scott. |
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 29, 2022 23:32:15 GMT
Darrin In COB, Taxe stamp are listed , TX17 -TX25Aa are shown for 1915. the stamps you show are from the 1957 series (COB # 1026A and 1026B The 1945-53 (COB TX56-65)Taxe stamps do not have an overstamp. The next series (1966 TX 66 -72) has a "T" as part of the printed design. The lowest denomination of any of these is 65c (1945-53 TX56) COB (2019) lists no such overprint cjoprey may be able to shed more lioght on this. These could be very valuable or forged overprints |
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Jan 29, 2022 23:47:24 GMT
Stan ( stainlessb), what is COB? Also, I am inclined to think this is simply the very same handstamp used for postage due mail as youpiao suggest above but stamped on the stamp itself rather than on envelope. Perhaps this was post office policy at the time. |
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Post by Philatarium on Jan 29, 2022 23:47:48 GMT
darkormex / Darrin -- I took a quick look at a Michel (2013-2104). They do show an example of the overprint, which looks nearly spot on, but no listings for it applied to the stamps you're asking about. 
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Post by darkormex on Jan 29, 2022 23:52:37 GMT
Thank you, Dave! I think we are getting closer. That note seems to be about the earlier issue, 1919 to 1920 but I wonder if it may also have been used into the 50s?
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Post by darkormex on Jan 29, 2022 23:58:40 GMT
I looked on another forum and I found images of this same definitive series with this same handstamp and also the following information:
"Some Post Offices who hadn't Postage Due Stamps in their officed used the stamps from the emission of 1915 with a hand stamped T to receive the port.
After 1958 the use of the T-handstamp became regular.
For the stamps before 1958 it is preferable to collect these handstamped items on cover. Only on a dated cover one can be sure it was really used as Postage Due."
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 30, 2022 0:04:07 GMT
darkormex COB is Catalogue Officiel de Timbres-Poste- published in Walloon and French. It seems to be the most authoritative reference. Here are what Taxe stamps I have with the over stamp *TX 17 - 25) and all issued in 1915 - and no listed stamps after these with the T over stamp 
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Post by cjoprey on Jan 30, 2022 16:21:13 GMT
Hi Darrin darkormex - the "T" overprint is indeed for postage due stamps. Although COB only lists stamps with this overprint on for numbers TX17 through TX25 (the 1915 series Stan stainlessb showed above), it also mentions the following in a footnote (translated from Dutch): "A few post offices that didn't have postage due stamps available, used stamps from the 1915 series that were made invalid with a 'T' overprint. Since 1958 the 'T-stamps' are found in general usage." I believe this to mean that you can find any stamp issued since 1958 with 'T' overstamps - I have several of these in my collection as well. As the two stamps you showed were released in 1957, they would still have been used after 1958 and as such were cancelled to be used as postage due stamps. Hope that helps!  |
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Post by darkormex on Jan 30, 2022 16:24:12 GMT
Chris, thank you for confirming this. I also saw a similar explanation on another forum. I will continue to look out for these as an enhancement to my Belgium collection.
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Post by darkormex on Feb 16, 2022 12:56:56 GMT
Along with the early Belgian railway stamps, the seller I purchased from in California also had this page which I picked up pretty much for the surcharged precancels but there are several other stamps here that will fill spaces in my album. The seller had more pages like this from what looks like one collection and most of them were Belgian semi-postals. Semi-postals will have to wait.   |
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Post by cjoprey on Feb 16, 2022 15:16:08 GMT
Nice selection Darrin darkormex - the three Edouard Anseele overprints (1st three on the second page) are particularly nice... |
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 16, 2022 15:32:18 GMT
darkormex what cjoprey said ! I've not seen those three before! Something new to look for! (I thought I had most of the overprints)
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Post by darkormex on Feb 16, 2022 16:49:21 GMT
cjoprey and stainlessb, it is these overprints which drew me to purchasing this. They are listed in Scott as surcharges and, so, there are spots spaces on the Steiner pages but they also appeared on the precancel pages which is how I started looking out for them.
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Post by darkormex on Feb 20, 2022 23:57:57 GMT
I purchased another page from what is probably a broken up Belgian collection from the same seller as the above, on eBay. There were a number of stamps on this page that will fill in empty spots in my collection which, for the general issues of Belgium, is printed up to 1960. In particular the stamps issued for the 13th UPU Congress caught my eye. After this I may wrap up working on Belgium for a while.   |
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 21, 2022 0:31:21 GMT
The 50 Franc stamp is nice and there is another in the series - 100F red
welcome to the rabbit hole!
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Post by darkormex on Feb 21, 2022 0:43:46 GMT
stainlessb , yes, it is and will be a dupe for me. The 2 high values of the UPU issue, the 10F and 20F have a decent catalog value...I count anything above $1.00 as decent...and will fill those spots on my Steiner page. Also the Ghent Flower Show 1955 set is completely a big empty space that will be filled now. What is your specific interest in the Belgium are Stan?
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 21, 2022 1:23:29 GMT
Darrin ( darkormex ) My interest in Belgium is up to the late 1950's, the exact cut-off TBD. Like France, I am interested in shades and varieties (flyspecking). I have a special fondness nice postmarks/obliterations, and 'BoB" issues. I'm currently bouncing around between France, Belgium, Great Britain (QV only), and Austria, although I am acquiring other European countries, these 4 seem have my most focused attention. With France I hope by early next year to have all my pages made and mounts in place with what stamps I have, at which point I will likely dive into the Belgium first issues (epaulettes/medallions) next. Austria needs more 'candidates" for the many early perforations Great Britain is well on its way to getting as far as I will get with it! With regards to Belgium- PM if you have specific needs, I may be able to help! |
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