Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Mar 14, 2014 19:19:56 GMT
I recognize jkjblue's most recent stamp so I'll stay quiet, but in snooping a bit I found this flag for that stamp-issuing entity. I don't recall ever seeing that flag before, and there's a clear link with many of the flags in use by Nordic countries, so those who are looking to solve the puzzle can use that hint. Ryan
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Post by stoltzpup on Mar 14, 2014 19:50:01 GMT
I think the telltale sign is the little blue tic in the upper right of the escutcheon.
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Post by stoltzpup on Mar 14, 2014 23:07:56 GMT
Pretty good It's WWI era. German military. Eastern front. More info can be found in Michel. Page 371 in my 2004 Michel. Hadn't thought to look there. Do you have a copy of the stamp? Lucky if you do.
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Post by cjd on Mar 15, 2014 0:30:57 GMT
Thanks for the flag image, Ryan. Had never seen it before...
The right stamp looks like a bright-white-paper forgery.
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Post by stoltzpup on Mar 15, 2014 0:40:47 GMT
I'm thinking essay for the one on the right.
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Post by cjd on Mar 15, 2014 1:02:55 GMT
I'm trying to avoid getting out of my chair to grab Tyler's Focus on Forgeries. Pretty sure he addresses this stamp.
I'll need a refill sooner rather than later, so if no one chimes in by then...
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 15, 2014 4:30:21 GMT
cjd and stoltzpup- you are both right. As you know, this is North Ingermanland (North Ingria) 1920 Scott 8 10p gray green & ultramarine "Arms" The whole issue has forgeries, and indeed Varro Tyler discusses them. The forgery is found on quite white paper. The most common forgery for the Scott 8 has the double lines at the top, left and lower left sides by the blue shield shaped coat of arms.
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Post by classicalstamps on Mar 15, 2014 10:31:22 GMT
Page 371 in my 2004 Michel. Hadn't thought to look there. Do you have a copy of the stamp? Lucky if you do. Unfortunately, it is - not yet - in my collection.
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Post by classicalstamps on Mar 15, 2014 11:03:32 GMT
The next item is an example of one of the most fascinating stories in German philately.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 15, 2014 14:11:19 GMT
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 15, 2014 14:42:32 GMT
I don't know anything, but I'll take a stab at it. There is nothing mentioned in the Scott about it. The German 1902 10pf carmine block of four is postmarked from German East Africa and the Korogwe district. Perhaps this was German Military mail from the the Maji Maji uprising 1905-07- a rebellion by the natives forced to grow cotton? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maji_Maji_RebellionMaji Maji prisoners
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Post by classicalstamps on Mar 15, 2014 14:59:03 GMT
Hint: It has something to do with the Cruiser Konigsberg.
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Post by cjd on Mar 15, 2014 16:03:03 GMT
The block looks to be an example of Konigsberg/Mowe provisionals, which were removed from two scuttled German ships in East Africa during World War I (not surprisingly, the Konigsberg and the Mowe) and used for postage as a supplement to the regular colonial issues.
I don't know if experts can tell one ship's supply from the other. ?
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Post by cjd on Mar 15, 2014 16:15:04 GMT
The NWPI looks to be postmarked MOROBE, a little spot on the coast that the Germans used for colonial administration, and seemingly occupied by the Australians at the start of World War I. Interestingly, Cragg lists an early-use date of 1913, but supposedly the occupation occurred after the start of hostilities, so that is a bit of a puzzle (to me, at least...probably an easy explanation).
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Post by classicalstamps on Mar 15, 2014 16:29:20 GMT
Cjd, you're correct.
The stamps from the two warships were distributed to the following:
Bagamoyo, Bukoba, Dodoma, Kilwa, Korogwe, Mohoro, Mombo & Pangani
As far as I know, it is not possible to distinguish which of the two ships they came from. It happened simultaneously on November 1915.
The famous Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck was awarded an Iron Cross for his involvement in the episode, where the guns from Konigsberg were salvaged and used against the British on land.
They are very rare, and thus demand a hefty premium at auctions.
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Post by cjd on Mar 15, 2014 16:59:50 GMT
Korogwe received 606 of the 10-pfennig stamps, which does not sound like very many, but only Mombo received more (1000). A couple of the post offices only received 200 of that value. The five-pfennig value seems to be the most numerous, with several thousand being distributed. A very nice block.
Something to look for on your Germanias, folks. They're out there.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 15, 2014 17:22:45 GMT
German East Africa-Oh well, at least I learned something today. NWPI- cjd- good info! Still looking for a catalogue number- and perhaps a bit about the types of overprints....
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Post by 1840to1940 on Mar 15, 2014 22:55:25 GMT
I’ll take a stab at the North West Pacific Islands stamp. We are looking for an overprinted 1 pence King George V Australian stamp. Considering the overprint first, according to Scott, there are two types of overprints: Type a where the “P” of “PACIFIC” is above “S” of “ISLANDS and Type b where the ”P“ of ”PACIFIC“ is above space between ”I“ and ”S“ of ”ISLANDS.“ This looks like to me like type “a.”
There are three one pence KGVs with the NWPI overprints; Scott 12, 41 and 42. Scott 41 and 42 would seem to be eliminated because they only bear overprint type “b.” There is also a color difference between these and Scott 12, although my eyes would never be certain whether I was looking at carmine or carmine red without having both next to each other.
Scott 12 comes with two die types, I and Ia. Ia has “a small white spur below the right serif at foot of the ”1“ in left tablet” which I don’t see here. So this eliminates 12b.
Adding to the fun, there are multiple varieties of the letter ”S“ in the Type ”a“ overprint. According to Scott, “these occur in three combinations: a, both normal ”S“; b, 1st ”S“ with small head and long bottom stroke, 2nd ”S“ normal; c, both ”S“ with small head and long bottom stroke.” I think the illustrated stamp has two “Ss” with small heads and long bottom strokes.
So I’m going with Scott 12 with overprint “a,” variety “c.” If that isn’t right, how about Norwegian Mission Post in Madagascar?
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 16, 2014 1:10:29 GMT
Absolutely correct! ( Although I didn't drill down to the variety level myself. ) 1840 to 1940 (Bob) - You are given the John Walter Scott Citation Award for use of the catalogue.
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Post by 1840to1940 on Mar 16, 2014 1:50:25 GMT
Jkjblue (Jim), I am honored to be a recipient of the John Walter Scott Citation Award for being able to copy and paste from the Scott catalog.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 16, 2014 16:28:41 GMT
This isn't part of the "unknown' game, I actually don't know.. I was left over with these "T" overprinted Turkey stamps after putting every thing else in the album. Can anyone shed light on these overprinted specimens?
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Post by codeye on Mar 16, 2014 17:44:17 GMT
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 16, 2014 17:52:50 GMT
I was left over with these "T" overprinted Turkey stamps after putting every thing else in the album. Can anyone shed light on these overprinted specimens? Jim: I can't speak to Turkey specifically, but that "T" symbol often means stamps used as postage due stamps. -- Dave
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 16, 2014 19:13:51 GMT
I'll add that Scott seems not to list them, although I think I remember reading that Scott may be adding them to the Classic Specialized for some countries. (I just checked the 2013; not in there. I don't have the 2014.)
Years ago I picked up a set of Tunisia stamps with a "T" punched into the stamp, kind of like a giant perfin. That's where I came to know of them. Although Scott did not list them, they were listed in one of the French catalogs. (Looking under Tunisia in the 2013 Classic, I see that Scott has added them, with a "JA" suffix. Now motivated to find my old collection of them ...)
-- Dave
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 16, 2014 19:58:03 GMT
Thank you codeye and philatarium for the comments. The "T" seems to be applied deliberately, like an overprint, and not like a cancel- although perhaps it serves that function also. My 2014 Scott 1840-1940 Classic does not list them for Turkey. I knew about the Tunisia perforated "T" stamps that are postage due, and have been recently added to the catalogue.
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 16, 2014 20:54:59 GMT
Sorry, Jim -- I should've known you would be right on top of these things! It's I who usually isn't.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 16, 2014 21:04:13 GMT
Dave- I don't think I am any more on top of things than you or the many other wonderful folks who inhabit this place. My knowledge is "a mile wide, but an inch deep", as they say.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 17, 2014 13:47:59 GMT
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Post by classicalstamps on Mar 17, 2014 14:13:57 GMT
Albania: A stamp from the unissued series showing Prince William von Wied.
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 17, 2014 17:23:46 GMT
I think it is a "Wanted" poster for the #1 suspect: Frank Shqipënië.
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