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Post by cjd on Mar 17, 2014 18:52:45 GMT
The Turkey Ts are in Yvert, sort of. The left three are listed as Timbre-Taxe ##38-40 from 1906. The right stamp looks to be an overprint on the 1pi ultramarine from 1913 and Yvert does not list one of those overprinted for this purpose (as far as I can see).
Also, for what it is worth, your overprints do not exactly match the overprint in Yvert, but that may not mean anything. Values for 38-40 are not through the roof, but as we know, that doesn't mean someone didn't forge an overprint (or four).
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 17, 2014 19:51:32 GMT
Correct Classical Stamps! Many of the stamps were overprinted or surcharged and issued in 1920 by Albania. (Not the 1 Franc stamp shown here, however.) But the issue was never officially released without overprint. Yet, they are frequently found in albums.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 17, 2014 19:53:51 GMT
Thanks cjd- great information.
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 17, 2014 20:11:09 GMT
Jim: Cjd's post caused my brain to spark for a minute and I thought to look in Michel. I don't know if you have Europe vol 4 (Southeast Europe, "Südosteuropa"), but here's the relevant part from the 2009-2010 edition for Türkei (p. 1047). (I pasted together the bottom of one column and the top of the next one.) Perhaps someone whose German is more facile than mine can help supply a translation and clarification, but I think it's especially the paragraph at the top that's most relevant to your stamps. At the worst case, it looks like representative examples catalog here for €4 used or €10 unused. And if one of your stamps is one of the ones below, even better! (Let me know if you need the other pages for the stamps it references.)
-- Dave
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 17, 2014 21:27:47 GMT
My rough German translation... "Due to lack of postage-due, from 1906, a Free-mark and other circulating Free-marks using a handstamp in different forms was needed to make back-up postage-due" Thanks much philatarium (and cjd )! It is pretty clear these stamps served a postage function,- probably postage due? (Edit: Yes!) Edit: "Porto", I'm quite sure does refer to postage due. Edit 2: I added the "postage due" meaning to the translation...
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Post by scb on Mar 18, 2014 6:59:48 GMT
@jkblue... Good try. I'd translate the text like this:
"Due to lack of the postage due stamps, from 1906, the definitives Mi#114-116, later also any other definitives in circulation, were handstamped with "T" in various formats for use as provisional postage dues.
-k-
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Post by classicalstamps on Mar 18, 2014 11:04:02 GMT
So, who's up for these:
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 18, 2014 17:27:30 GMT
While folks are pondering Classical Stamps unknown, here is mine for the day.... ?
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 19, 2014 14:40:03 GMT
? (Yesterday's entries are still available too. )
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Post by cjd on Mar 19, 2014 18:02:10 GMT
I'll start out the discussion guessing Tolima Sc#25, back-of-the-book Colombia, and then you can continue the discussion telling us why that isn't it...
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 19, 2014 18:28:45 GMT
cjd- there are no tricks- you are correct! I love the variety of classical era WW, and part of the fun is presenting corners of the world not thought of much today.
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Post by 1840to1940 on Mar 19, 2014 19:07:25 GMT
So, who's up for these: It looks like the stamp on the left is the final issue of a stamp club formed after WW II by Ukranian prisoners of war in conjunction with the Italian Rimini stamp club. (I know it sounds like I'm making this up and perhaps I am.) If that is correct, then presumably the other two stamps are earlier issues. Apparently some 40 stamps were released.
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Post by classicalstamps on Mar 19, 2014 20:44:48 GMT
I only know that they are from the Italian occupation of Ukraine(?!?) during WW2. You will probably need Sassone if you want to see them listed in a catalog. Something for the WW2 specialist :-)
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Post by 1840to1940 on Mar 19, 2014 20:48:19 GMT
I only know that they are from the Italian occupation of Ukraine(?!?) during WW2. You will probably need Sassone if you want to see them listed in a catalog. Something for the WW2 specialist :-) I did find brief article on these for those who are interested: A Forgotten Page of History
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 20, 2014 14:47:32 GMT
? (The Belgium stamp from the day before yesterday is still out there too. )
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Post by stoltzpup on Mar 20, 2014 22:48:23 GMT
Belgium B153 and Cilicia 100 type I. Or are those guesses too obvious? ?
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 20, 2014 23:47:05 GMT
Stolzpup (Bud)- You are double correct! Pour yourself a nice port.
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Post by stoltzpup on Mar 20, 2014 23:52:14 GMT
Ah, yes, I have a Taylor Fladgate 1977 open at the moment. It will do nicely.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 21, 2014 15:34:49 GMT
The weekend offering.. ?
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Post by Jen B on Mar 21, 2014 23:33:18 GMT
Could this be Argentina #32? Issued Feb 1877? Although I'm not seeing the difference between design types A8 and A17 in Scott's. They look the same to me, but the A8 design has the 8 surcharged in black.
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 22, 2014 1:58:01 GMT
You got it Jen B. Congrats!
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Post by Jen B on Mar 23, 2014 2:33:41 GMT
While jkjblue is off looking for another one to stump us with, can any identify this "easy one".
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Post by tomiseksj on Mar 23, 2014 19:10:49 GMT
Since no one else has weighed in, I'll say it is the re-engraved type of the 1913-19 issue -- the second Peking printing (1923, Scott 249).
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Post by Jen B on Mar 24, 2014 0:23:23 GMT
That's it Steve!
This one is called the easy one because it is easy to distinguish from the earlier issues because it is missing the fringe below the curved frame containing the six characters. I can't figure out the London versus the Peking printing on the earlier issues.
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Post by rogo on Mar 24, 2014 2:48:11 GMT
That's it Steve! This one is called the easy one because it is easy to distinguish from the earlier issues because it is missing the fringe below the curved frame containing the six characters. I can't figure out the London versus the Peking printing on the earlier issues. The London printings are much finer, very nice stamps compared to Peking. I believe there were 2 different Peking prints. I'll take a look see if I can find the info, it's been a while since I worked on China
Never mind.... I scrolled up to see Steve's post "2nd printing"
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Post by jkjblue on Mar 24, 2014 13:11:24 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Mar 27, 2014 7:51:45 GMT
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 27, 2014 21:51:20 GMT
Sorry, Rodney -- didn't realize these requests were hanging out here. ... Be right back ...
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 27, 2014 22:09:53 GMT
Looks like you picked up some nice cat value on these 2 and the other s/s! Also, a nice round number on the 1980 s/s, and a quite low number on the 1981. -- Dave
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Post by rod222 on Mar 27, 2014 22:45:49 GMT
Wow! Thanks Dave, Super. When push comes to shove, we always have to rely on German exactitude. Good on 'em! Sending you some stamps in appreciation 42,000 Mini sheets and Scott does not list ? that's a head scratcher. (PS : the heavily scribbled pencilled numbers on the sheets (Grrrr) , were a dead giveaway that someone else had problems, and deferred to Michel)
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