kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Aug 19, 2020 1:36:45 GMT
Confession; last November I bought this stamp on Tradera for SEK 1960, then roughly USD 200. Well, look at it. Not a bargain, but the centering is good for the issue, and the cancellation…
But when it arrived I saw the long tear starting at the top between the S and V. The ad did not mention that. But the seller was good and refunded me without much whining. Earlier this month, she listed it again, albeit with a new description; 'The stamp has a long, repaired tear'. That's more honest, also something new. It sold this weekend for SEK 960, about USD 110. They buyer was fully informed this time, or should have been. And the price wasn't crazy. I kept my big nose out. But I feel a little guilty. 
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Feb 23, 2021 9:59:42 GMT
80th aniversary of king.

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cursus
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Post by cursus on Feb 23, 2021 10:00:39 GMT
1905 definitive. Stockholm's GPO

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cursus
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Post by cursus on Apr 2, 2021 4:54:02 GMT
A nice 1945 booklet pair

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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Mar 28, 2022 23:36:48 GMT
They're pretty--tiny northern orchids--but the cancels are suspiciously perfect, yet not quite perfect enough. Done in a very minor Lidingö post office. Are they CTOs?
 
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Post by paul1 on Jun 13, 2022 13:05:36 GMT
just to compliment kasvik on the posting of the tiny Gysinge yellow 35 ore stamp in the Postmark Calendar section. Maybe there was something about Swedish p.o. workers then that seems to have produced more than the average of good almost SON cancels;-). I suspect that this colour - sort of yellow/amber is a difficult shade to photograph and reproduce accurately - IMHO, in the attached picture mine has also come out too amberish, and not sufficiently in the direction of yellow. I collect any stamps usually pre 1960, and certainly any of this age, and recently had a couple of pages of Sweden turn up in an old album - so attached picture shows just a few with a date range of 1898 - 1928, though don't see me getting round to knowing much more than the fact that SVERIGE mean Sweden;-) I think all of the yellow group are not only difficult to photograph, but lack contrast to a degree than makes them difficult to read - of all the colours this really is the pits to decipher - it would have helped had designers used another contrasting colour to aid legibility. 
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Jun 15, 2022 8:45:40 GMT
Maybe there was something about Swedish p.o. workers then that seems to have produced more than the average of good almost SON cancels;-). I suspect that this colour - sort of yellow/amber is a difficult shade to photograph and reproduce accurately - IMHO, in the attached picture mine has also come out too amberish, and not sufficiently in the direction of yellow. Hey paul1 . You're undoubtedly on to something about cancellations. Unlike many European countries--where the usual practice still is to cancel half on, half off, to tie a stamp to its envelope--Swedish post rules seem to have been more vague (just kill the thing?). I love the pink streak on your 35 öre. Never seen that before. Is that the scanning illusion you noted or a genuine oddity? 
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Jun 15, 2022 9:35:26 GMT
I think the red stripe over that35 øre comes from the scanner. Look at the whole image, more red/pink stripes there.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 15, 2022 12:01:58 GMT
Swedes are particularly fussy about centering and cancels. The Facit catalogue for used stamps explains this at the beginning, and price is for well centred and at least 90% of a complete date stamp ( preferably upright) . That equates to full catalogue .anything less and the price tumbles dramatically. Even 50-60% of a cancel is reckoned just a small fraction of the catalogue price
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Post by paul1 on Jun 15, 2022 13:30:59 GMT
hi - thanks for spotting that kasvik, and tobben63 us correct - it's a scanning error from the camera - in fact I'd not spotted that when taking the pictures, it looks to become more highlighted as the image is magnified. Apologies for a duff picture.
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Post by gstamps on Jun 16, 2022 6:59:53 GMT
I do not collect postal envelopes and it has been in the "What do I do with them" area for 2 years. I decided to soak in water and peel off some stamps from the envelopes. I stopped at this envelope on which the stamps are not canceled. I also noticed the 100 Kr stamp - I think it is the highest value on a Swedish stamp. Don't know what to do, peel them off or not? Interested in recent Mint Gum Free Stamps for Exchange? Maybe only a Swedish collector who can reuse them in the mail (if they are still valid for use) 
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Jun 17, 2022 14:56:29 GMT
I do not collect postal envelopes and it has been in the "What do I do with them" area for 2 years. I decided to soak in water and peel off some stamps from the envelopes. I stopped at this envelope on which the stamps are not canceled. I also noticed the 100 Kr stamp - I think it is the highest value on a Swedish stamp. Don't know what to do, peel them off or not? Interested in recent Mint Gum Free Stamps for Exchange? Maybe only a Swedish collector who can reuse them in the mail (if they are still valid for use) That's a nice cover gstamps , yet another reason to roll eyes at self-adhesives. What on Earth to do with 'em? My only answer is prevarication; I keep an envelope for trimmed self-adhesives. It's my way of waiting for the genius who figures how to remove them easily. It's worse now with Swedish cancellations; water soluble! Ridiculous, huh? Damn 'em. I've tried orange oil, Bestine, common solvents, soakings-and-rubbing. Allow me to admit defeat.
I'm also impressed by the outright contempt of PostNord--and so many other privatized post corporations--for canceling stamps. I know they're absurdly understaffed, like everybody else. But if post corps don't care to check, why should we care to get the rates right? Sure, registered mail is different; they're in control. But for a normal letter... If they only pretend to care, we should reciprocate.
Since post corps are not paying attention, why should we? My mischievous side says it might not matter which stamps or whose we use on our outgoing. Let's experiment with re-using other countries' stamps; just splash a bunch of uncanceled stamps like these, glue 'em regardless of the actual country or rate. What's the worst that could happen? They come back.
As usually with thought experiments, I'm all too willing to Let Mikey try it.
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jun 17, 2022 17:28:01 GMT
Water soluble cancellations - really? That's so disappointing, in particular from a country that previously excelled in producing the most spectacular postmarks. Saddening for postmark collectors....
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Post by philatelia on Jun 17, 2022 17:59:05 GMT
Water soluble cancels - hmmmm I distinctly remember postal administrations working hard to make it difficult for crooks to wash off cancels. Here in the USA they even shut down several charities that collected stamps from mail. The Lutheran churches were an example. Awfully nice of Sweden’s postal agent to assist scofflaws in their thievery. Sheesh!
I am SO GLAD that I made the decision to not make any effort to keep up with all of the modern issues from my countries. If I receive a few in the mail or they turn up in other serendipitous ways that’s just hunky dorey, but I don’t actually open my pocketbook for them. If I wait long enough, eventually I’ll find them in a collection at a fraction of the original face value. If I could go back and give my younger self advice, “don’t buy new issues” would be near the top of the list.
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Post by gstamps on Jun 18, 2022 11:04:47 GMT
@kasvik Thanks for the advice. I didn't notice that the 100 Kr stamp is self-adhesive and has some cuts on the inside - it would surely be destroyed when peeled off.  It is understandable why they did not cancel it. However, I would have preferred a cancellation on it. I'm going to cut the envelope paper around it and I hope someone in the stamp exchanges wants it. The other stamps are perforated and I don't think it's a problem 
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Post by paul1 on Jun 21, 2022 13:56:28 GMT
a booklet I found this morning whilst rummaging through old purchases - it looks to date to May 1979. Lovely pix of the Gota Kanal which runs from Gothenburg to Soderkoping - better than a few boring heads. In common with other European canals the Gota was built in the early C19 centrury as the needs of the industrial revolution forced a requirement for better infrastructure for movement and distribution of manufactured goods. Apparently, it has a wonderful stepped drop en route although that image doesn't appear in the stamp selection. Profuse apologies for the absence of the umlauts - the two dots over vowels - I did try but kept losing my words entirely, so gave up. By the way, I've tried looking for the thread re the selvedge discussion, but no luck - will some kind person remind me please or provide a link - thanks ever so. :-)  
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 21, 2022 14:21:25 GMT
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 21, 2022 14:22:56 GMT
You just have to look in the Recent Threads to see the thread called "The Significance of Selvedge"!
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Post by paul1 on Jun 21, 2022 14:26:44 GMT
thanks guys - my apologies for being dim. I do have a contribution to the Selvedge thread - give me an hour or so to put brain into gear;-)
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 21, 2022 14:27:14 GMT
The work on the Gota canal was overseen and largely designed by Scottish Architect/engineer Thomas Telford at the invitation of the king of Sweden.
Telford designed many canals all over England in the pre - railway canal building boom. He also was responsible for the great Caledonian Canal through the Highlands of Scotland.
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Post by paul1 on Jun 21, 2022 16:14:13 GMT
thanks for the extra details Alex - always good to put some more flesh on the bones and increase the level of interest. Weren't we doing well in those days - I think we've lost the plot now - no one asks us to do anything any more - except how to go on strike !! ;-)
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