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Post by Jerry B on Aug 2, 2013 11:19:02 GMT
The following Mount tips apply to any of the stamp mounts that are available, both “split-back” (Showgard, Scott, etc.) and “Open Top” (Hawid) mounts.
1. Cutting A Mount to Size a. Mount Height • When selecting the mount height select a height that does not “squash” the item in the mount. If need be select the next higher size. However, there are times that one has to use a mount with the split vertical to get the right size. I have never had an item fall out when using it this way. Below is shown the Showgard Philatelic Gauge for measuring mount height (right image):
• If the gauge cannot be found, measure the height of the item in mm. If a stamp measure perf tip to perf tip. This should be the height required but again one may have to select the next higher size.
b. Mount Width • To cut a mount strip to length use a guillotine. Many styles and sizes are available and do an excellent job. For those guillotines that have a “ruler bar”, such as Showgard EXCAL guillotines, place the bar at the bottom of the “cutting board”. The guillotine directions show the bar at the top but I have found it more convenient to put it at the bottom. These cutters give the mount a nice clean look rather than raggedy edges that one may get using scissors. The cutters are a little expensive but they last for years.
• For mounts that are larger than the capacity of the guillotine try to find the following HAWID item. It still exists and will help cutting larger mounts neatly:
• To determine the width of the mount measure the stamp perf tip to perf tip in millimeters and add 3 mm to get the final width. The extra 3 mm tends to make the border around the item look equal since the 2 mount welds are almost 3 mm.
• Never cut a mount with the stamp in the mount. An exception may be cutting larger mounts with the ruler cutter shown above as the ruler has a guideline. 2. Attaching the Mount To a Page • The most important “rule” of ALL: DO NOT moisten the mount with the stamp in the mount.
• DO NOT LICK the mount. Moisture may creep in at the mount edges. Use a damp cotton swab like Q-Tip (may be called Cotton Bud outside the US).
• Dip the swab in water and roll the swab in your fingers, or use some other method, to remove most of the water. The swab should only be damp. If using your fingers you may want a towel nearby to dry your fingers.
• Apply a little moisture ONLY to the top third of the mount. You do not have to wet the entire back.
• When applying moisture, use 2 or 3 dabs of the swab. If wetting the entire width, moisten from the middle of the mount to the left or right edge. This will reduce the chance of moisture creeping into the mount.
• If moisture does creep in at an edge, take a small piece of torn paper and use the ragged paper edge as a "blotter".
• Attach the mount to the page.
• Put the item into the mount ONLY after it is fully dried.
• To insert the item place the item into the mount at the top and gently roll the mount bottom over the item bottom.
• With large items you may want to put a dab of moisture at the bottom of the mount and press to the page. This prevents large mounts from “flapping in the breeze”.
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Post by spain1850 on Aug 2, 2013 13:49:53 GMT
Man, I can't begin to tell you how many of these guideline tips I've done wrong in the past.
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Post by Jerry B on Aug 2, 2013 14:58:35 GMT
Hi spain1850
I have been using nothing but Showgard mounts from about they time they were introduced, 23+ years. A lot of these tips were given by Showgard, friends and years of use.
Jerry B
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Post by spain1850 on Aug 2, 2013 15:43:09 GMT
And they all seem to make sense as well. I've just been kind of reckless. I regularly cut my mounts with stamps in them. I also lick the mounts, with stamps in them. I haven't had any problems so far, but I guess that doesn't mean accidents won't happen. I will have to rethink some of my methods. Thank you for posting these tips.
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Post by jkjblue on Aug 2, 2013 15:56:56 GMT
I'm just plain lazy, and I do exactly the same as spain1850. The problem is I'm probably not going to change my ways. ;-)
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 2, 2013 16:21:18 GMT
I used to cut my mounts with stamps in them, using cardboard templates that I had made to kind of keep my cuts straight.
When I decided to change albums, I purchased a guillotine and I now have parallel edges on all of the mounts in my album.
To mount a stamp I measure the width of the stamp's box on the album page, set the guide to that width, and make the cut.
Next I center the stamp in the mount and align the mount in its box on the album page.
While holding the mount in place, I carefully raise the upper portion of the mount with the tongs.
Then I lick the tip of my index finger, lightly rub it on the glue of the upper portion of the mount, and then press the mount against the page for a few seconds to allow the mount to adhere.
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Post by Perfs14 on Aug 2, 2013 19:33:37 GMT
There is a YouTube clip on how to mount stamps:
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Aug 17, 2013 3:17:02 GMT
Two things to add to the discussion: First: Paper cutters do a great job of cutting stamp mounts, and you can get them pretty cheap. I use this one from Amazon: www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Paper-Trimmer-12-Grey/dp/B0001NXDJG/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1376709082&sr=8-16&keywords=fiskars+cutterIt's less than $10.00. Second: To secure the mounts to the pages, I use a glue stick rather than moisten the mount in any way. The reasons why I use a glue stick: 1. Glue sticks are moisture free. So they won't warp the paper you're gluing the mount to. 2. Glue sticks are moisture free. So, if you accidentally get some in the mount they WILL NOT activate the glue on the back of a stamp. You can usually wipe the stamp and/or mount clean and move on. 3. Glue sticks will not acidify over time. Glue sticks are naturally basic, since they have sodium hydroxide in them. 4. You have a chance to re-position a mount for a few seconds if you notice it's crooked.
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Post by PostmasterGS on Aug 17, 2013 4:25:37 GMT
Scotch makes an acid-free double-sided tape that works really well for securing mounts. It's designed for archival work and scrapbooking, so that's often where you can find it in stores.
It has a very light adhesive, so it's actually possibly to remove the mounts for repositioning, etc., without damaging the mount, stamp, or page. I have pages where the mounts were secured using this tape 15 years ago, and I can still remove the mounts and reposition them without a problem, often even reusing the same, 15 year-old strip of tape.
Just make sure you get the acid-free.
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Post by Philatarium on Aug 17, 2013 5:02:25 GMT
PostmasterGS: Thanks very much for sharing that information. The fact that you have "laboratory data" going back 15 years is very persuasive to me. Thanks!
-- Dave
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Post by Jerry B on Aug 17, 2013 8:17:14 GMT
Hi
I looked at the Fiskar cutter. The one thing I do not like is that it seems not to have horizontal support for the mount as you move it up the base to get the correct length. With the dedicated mount cutters available there is a stable horizontal base.
As far as glue sticks are concerned I am a little wary about using them. Are there different types and are there some that are acid free? I do like the idea about using Scotch acid-free double-sided tape.
I use fairly heavy paper so warping the page is not a problem. I can see where it might happen on the thin paper used in some albums.
All in all some great ideas.
Jerry B
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Aug 17, 2013 18:02:32 GMT
ALL glue sticks are acid free. The have sodium hydroxide in them. They will NEVER acidify. You can buy "archival quality acid-free" glue sticks. But that's just a gimmick, since the there is sodium hydroxide in the glue stick. Their pH ranges from 8-9 depending on brand.
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Aug 17, 2013 19:45:11 GMT
So, of course, I had to run out and get some Scotch tape to try out. Here's the stuff you're looking for:
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Post by ramanandn on Aug 17, 2013 19:57:47 GMT
Andy,
Please post how the tape works out for you. Definitely interested.
Ram
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Post by Zuzu on Aug 17, 2013 20:27:04 GMT
You might also consider a tape runner. There are many kinds available at craft stores and ShopKo/K-Mart/Target-type stores. Here's one example: Scotch Tape Runner
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Post by PostmasterGS on Aug 18, 2013 2:42:02 GMT
The Scotch tape is far wider than you need to adequately secure a mount. I typically cut the length I need off the roll with a pair of scissors, then cut that piece into thirds horizontally. A roll will also go a lot farther that way.
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Post by Zuzu on Aug 18, 2013 3:04:51 GMT
Tape runners come in different widths. I believe the one I posted is 5/16". And it would be MUCH less labor-intensive than a traditional tape dispenser.
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Post by antoniusra on Aug 18, 2013 16:52:59 GMT
I much prefer top loader (open top) mounts as opposed to split backs. They are much easier to remove the stamp from and to adjust centering of stamp. It is not all that difficult to damage a stamp while trying to remove or insert a stamp into a split back especially when they are bunched together in sets.
My big tip, one which will save you money is to make two top loaders strips out of one split back strip. There is a price hike at a particular point that determines the quantity of mounts in a pack based on size. That break is usually around 61mm. I buy 61mm mounts and cut them lengthwise along the center split of the mount using my medium size shear. This yields you 2 top loader mounts of approx 30mm which is about the right height for most definitives and horizontal commemoratives. These of course can be trimmed down to any size smaller and keeps you from having to buy several different sizes of split backs to get the job done.
I also never use the adhesive provided on the mount but use glue sticks. The adhesive on the mounts is to aggressive and usually does not permit removal from the page without tearing the page up. Also the mount does not need 100% of its area to be stuck down especially if it is a split back. Just use whatever adhesive you choose at the top of the mount. Someday when your collection goes up for sale the dealer is going to have to remove the better stamps from the mounts to check for faults. I have seen some collections especially ones using Buxton mounts that were just not worth the time of trying to remove stamps from the mounts making the collection not worth looking at or trying to resell.
I see no reason to even consider using tape which for one thing is more difficult to use than glue sticks.
Under no circumstances ever use Crystal or Buxton mounts. If you have any, throw them out before you do something stupid, like using them
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Post by PostmasterGS on Aug 18, 2013 17:37:54 GMT
Tape allows me to move the mounts around as needed. If I need to redesign a page, I don't even have to remove the stamps from their mounts. If I miss in aligning a mount, I can just pull it off the page and re-stick it.
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Post by antoniusra on Aug 18, 2013 18:19:39 GMT
Tape allows me to move the mounts around as needed. If I need to redesign a page, I don't even have to remove the stamps from their mounts. If I miss in aligning a mount, I can just pull it off the page and re-stick it. Doesn't seem that you could do that more than a couple times without loosing adhesion and having to double up on the tape. With the glue stick they are easily removable but of course another dab is needed to remount. To each his own, but after mounting 1 or 2 stamps this way works best for me.
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Post by antoniusra on Aug 18, 2013 18:45:42 GMT
PostmasterGS I took a look at your site and have to say I really like your new addition of the elite storm trooper sheet. That pair has always been one of my favorite German items. You can just see in their eyes that the end is coming and it's not good. I looked around hoping to view your collection but did not have any luck. Am I missing something or is it not shown?
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Aug 18, 2013 18:46:28 GMT
Thanks Mitch never thought about cutting mounts down the center that way.I'll remember to pass that along to Mom as well,seeing as I usually buy her mounts, will save a buck or two.
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Post by Ryan on Aug 18, 2013 23:22:07 GMT
Under no circumstances ever use Crystal or Buxton mounts. If you have any, throw them out before you do something stupid, like using them ha ha ha I have often been surprised by the high prices you sometimes see on eBay for old stock Crystal mounts. I can understand high prices for the good quality old-style hinges - they were good products. But Crystal mounts? I've never understood why somebody would pay so much for something so bad. Here's an example, a screen snip from a recent eBay auction - $46 for 4 packages! Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Aug 18, 2013 23:25:11 GMT
PostmasterGS .... I looked around hoping to view your collection but did not have any luck. Am I missing something or is it not shown? It's an excellent site, but only part of his collection has been scanned and posted so far. You can expand the tree by clicking on the little plus signs, and the portions he's posted are listed in a darker font. Ryan
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Aug 18, 2013 23:25:58 GMT
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Post by Philatarium on Aug 18, 2013 23:55:22 GMT
Someone on another stamp board a couple of months ago recommended this product. They make both a permanent and a removable type. It's, of course, the removable one that he recommended. (Wish I could remember who it was and/or which board.) I bought it at Michael's crafts. tombowusa.com/craft/detail/62108I haven't had occasion to use it yet, but am glad to know I have it in the ready!
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Aug 19, 2013 0:07:43 GMT
Someone on another stamp board a couple of months ago recommended product. They make both a permanent and a removable type. It's, of course, the removable one that he recommended. (Wish I could remember who it was and/or which board.) I bought it at Michael's crafts. tombowusa.com/craft/detail/62108I haven't had occasion to use it yet, but am glad to know I have it in the ready!
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I guess I'm going back to AC Moore and see if they have them.... Sigh...
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Post by Philatarium on Aug 19, 2013 1:32:03 GMT
Andy, take comfort that you'll be well-stocked on adhesive of various types for a long time to come!
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Post by cjd on Aug 19, 2013 1:50:42 GMT
Yes, I know I should just go buy some to see, but...
Is the tape exceptionally thin? Glue is at least thin..the double-sided tape I'm thinking of would add significant bulk (thickness). Page, tape, mount, stamp, mount...interleaving?
Someone has thought about saving on the mounts and using the tape as a hinge...come on, admit it...someone has tried it...
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Post by Andy Pastuszak on Aug 19, 2013 2:23:53 GMT
So I mounted some stamps using the Scotch scrapbooking tape. Some observations.
Pros:
1. No fear of getting glue on anything. 2. Re-positioning mounts is disgustingly easy. 3. Don't have to worry about getting glue on anything. 4. Holds the stamp securely to the page.
Cons:
1. It's kind of hard to rip the double stick tape with the backing paper on it. 2. When moving a stamp, the tape stays behind on the page and not on the mount. This is good if you're tossing the page. But if you're re-positioning the mount, you risk the tape going across the split back opening. 3. It's a little slow going, cause you need to put the tape on the back of the mount and then you need to peel the backing paper off.
Now these are my observations, after mounting about a half dozen stamps and 15-20 minutes of use. I guarantee you that once I get into a groove with these things the mounting time will be much faster and I'll be an ace with this stuff.
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