France: Marianne Definitives

many thanks for that anglobob - I guess it had to be a substantial organization for me to have so many. I don't object to a few pefins, but you can have too much of a good thing;-)

Introducing the latest model to join the Marianne club

Marianne of the Future by Olivier Balez

First of the new definitives released today 13 November 2023

My record shows CN  (hole format not recorded)

#14 National Discount Counter 1907-1954
#18 National Discount Counter  1882-1954   Caen, Narbonne, Calvados, Aude

Another reference (same as Stainlessb ) and with added  Epernay (Marne) 1907-1954 No301


 

There are 3 (three) Credit Lyonas that are a single "C", All with 7 holes. The height of the perfin will idendify which

C1 larger holes 2.75- 3 mm

C2 smaller holes 4 - 4.5mm

C3 larger holes and 4.5 mm

this looks like th elarger hole design, and trying 'scale' off og f the perforations, I'm leaning towards C3 Seine, Paris
, and the separated perfins were only in use until 1952, and it looks like this was used in 1953 (though it certainly could have been remaining 'stock:
There are three CL with separated letters, and one with off-set letters, but the shape of the 'c' doesn't look like as good a match as the C3

too bad there isn't more of the postmark

you are most welcome! Perfins ·sadly) are considered flawed/damaged stamps. On th epositive side of that, they are generally not expensive to pick up. If you compare the C in your example to the C in the image darkormex posted, while both have 7 holes, No.188 is more oval

2nd box (from left) C# is the Ancoper #; H: 4.5 is the height( mm); amd last is the number of perfs (if there were multiple characters there would be a count for each.

Far right is the Y&T #'s that this perf has been found on; the A18 - A27 has no explanation/definition I can find (anybody know?) ; then the years span of use, and then lastly 'how common (or rare ) is just a stamp' - in this case quite common (range is 1-9), the alpha indicator (in this case A ) of how common /rare on a cover , Range is A - F and again this is a very common perfin

When Yvert & Tellier refer to stamps A16 to A27, they mean air mail issues. In Scott numbering, these would be #C18 to C26 and CB1 to CB3.

rod222, that's a really nice mini-collection there of Marianne through the years! I'm no expert on French stamps, so it's cool to see how many distinct variations on that one visual theme this series has gone through. I'm inspired to start assembling a similar lineup for myself...

2013, Marianne et la Jeunesse

The ‘Marianne et la Jeunesse’ stamps were issued from 15 July 2013. The stamps show a youthful Marianne and two children (youth, or jeunesse) in the lower right corner playing a ball game. There also exists a green-tariff stamp for carriage by more environmentally friendly modes of transport. This stamp has a tree at the lower right. The inscription 'Clappa & Kawena' appears at the bottom left of the stamps.

The stamps caused controversy based on false claims by Olivia Clappa who, together with David Kawena, was credited with the design of the stamps. She claimed Inna Chevtchenko, a Femen activist, had been her inspiration for the portrait of Marianne. Moralists lost no time calling for a boycott. David Kawena, however, has denied these claims.

Through his lawyer, David Kawena claimed he was the sole graphic designer of the stamp. He also made it known he had not modelled his Marianne on Inna Chevtchenko, whose existence had escaped him. Olivia Clappa, since has acknowledged David Kawena designed the stamps but claims she was co-creator of the stamps.

I bought these blocks on 15 September 2015, when I was in Bordeaux to visit a friend. I dropped into the post office around the corner from my hotel in the Mériadeck neighbourhood to buy some stamps for postcards and letters I wanted to send to friends. I liked the stamps and asked for the corner blocks. The clerk at the post office was very helpful and gave me a corner block (coin daté) of every denomination he could find.

The “tropical gum” rabbit hole I entered yesterday on the Martinique thread has me scratching my head at French definitives today. The image below shows two 5-fr Gandon-designed Marianne stamps separated by a 6-fr Marianne. I am trying to decide if the two quite different appearing 5-fr stamps are from the same issue. The latest Scott online catalogue lists the colors for the series of issues of the Gandon-designed Marianne 5-fr stamps as #542 light green (1945-47); #542A rose pink (1947); #579 blue (1947); #598 light blue green (1948-49); and #650 dull violet (1951). The 6-fr Marianne must be the 1951 issue (Scott #651), described as “green.” Two of the postmarks are from a French department in the West Indies (Martinique is visible on the 5-fr on the right and the 6-fr). I presume the lighter colored 5-fr on the right is from the earliest issue, despite a 1952 postmark, but might the darker 5-fr on the left, with a 1949 postmark, be the “light blue green” issue?  I believe the postmark on the 1949 5-fr stamp is from the town of Blois in the department of Loir-et-Cher, so that stamp would not have featured the tropical gum that presumably went on the other two.  Whether the gum type makes any difference is unknown to me.


Here are the same stamps with the two 5-fr next to one another.  Both pictures were taken in the same natural light an hour or so apart, but colors appear to have varied substantially, perhaps because of sun angle or amount of shade outside (its a sunny day, but stamps were not in full sun).

Here is my BASIC  Marianne Gandon sort list
Used to sort when swaps come in, and I can place at the correct Album pages, Quickly,  to replace better examples.

No flyspecking
I have Scott # 0598  as "Light Blue Green"