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Post by daniel on Jul 23, 2023 18:16:07 GMT
German revenue? All I can find out is the first word "Briefverkehr" = Correspondence, google translate won't give anything for "Hammonia" or "Chemnitz" so any help as to what it is, when, why or anything at all would be helpful. It's a German local post stamp from Chemnitz 1887. Daniel
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guyana1230
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Post by guyana1230 on Jul 23, 2023 19:36:27 GMT
German revenue? All I can find out is the first word "Briefverkehr" = Correspondence, google translate won't give anything for "Hammonia" or "Chemnitz" so any help as to what it is, when, why or anything at all would be helpful. It's a German local post stamp from Chemnitz 1887. Daniel Thank you very much, haven't collected German material for many years so had no idea.
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 9, 2023 22:08:54 GMT
Today I was able to complete a page from my Weimar Republic album, for the official use stamps:
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 14, 2023 20:55:29 GMT
Michel # 107 (on the right), but I see no mention of being issued imperf?
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Post by PostmasterGS on Oct 14, 2023 21:00:05 GMT
Postal stationery cutout from MiNr. P115.
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Nov 12, 2023 16:16:56 GMT
With this month's order, I was able to complete another page in my Weimar Republic album, for the second half of the service stamps: The last three stragglers were MiNr. D111-D113.
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barbu
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Post by barbu on Dec 13, 2023 19:54:49 GMT
Does anyone have, or know where to get, a complete list of all post offices in Germany from the 1800's and also the 1940's? I really just want to be able to know how many postmarks there are, and what they are. I have several book now, but none list all the postmarks that were used in Germany during those time periods. I have so many postmarks, but I want to see if I can get them all now. Someone just had to get me interested in cancellations, just another quest that intertwines with my other quests. LOL. Hi Mike! I am looking for the the as you did: A list of post offices of the German Reich. (1872-1945). Did you got any good answers?
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Post by Admin on Dec 13, 2023 22:21:57 GMT
barbu, its good to see you. Sadly, Mike hasn't been online here since June of last year. Perhaps one of our active members may be able to provide some answers.
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Post by youpiao on Dec 14, 2023 2:20:16 GMT
German revenue? All I can find out is the first word "Briefverkehr" = Correspondence, google translate won't give anything for "Hammonia" or "Chemnitz" so any help as to what it is, when, why or anything at all would be helpful. Hammonia is the name of the female personification of the city of Hamburg, and Chemnitz is the locale of the local post.
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rednaxela
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Post by rednaxela on Dec 14, 2023 7:26:19 GMT
German revenue? All I can find out is the first word "Briefverkehr" = Correspondence, google translate won't give anything for "Hammonia" or "Chemnitz" so any help as to what it is, when, why or anything at all would be helpful. Hammonia is the name of the female personification of the city of Hamburg, and Chemnitz is the locale of the local post. In this case, Hammonia was also the name of a private postal service in Hamburg. On February 1, 1887, a branch office was established in Chemnitz, which operated there until March 24, 1900.
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Post by anglobob on Jan 26, 2024 16:39:48 GMT
Briefzentrum cancellations. A letter centre BZ is a distribution centre for processing and delivering letters.The first centre was opened in 1994 and there were a total of 83 centres with 97 cancellations showing a number for each centre. Trying to find a cancellation from each centre was my latest challenge before I had problems with receiving purchases.I limited my search to stamps of the same size as I found it much easier to make a page.This is the first page.I need another 30 examples to complete the collection.
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Post by anilkhemlani on Jan 27, 2024 8:45:42 GMT
Germany 1936 Airmail The first and last issue in honor of the ill-fated Zeppelin Von Hindenburg.
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 15, 2024 4:36:40 GMT
Please can you tell from the picture? Fake, original? DR Michael 307A Thank you
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Post by gstamps on Feb 15, 2024 8:39:00 GMT
kooolabsIs it clear 800 thousand over 500 Marks? I can't see very well. The ink color of the postal cancellation looks good (including traces of grease on the back of the stamp). If the date is 10 (October) 1923 (I hope it is not 27) it is a correct date for the applied tariff (period 1-10 October): For the catalog value, the postal cancellation certification is mandatory. I don't know if it can be accepted for certification, as you can see from the postal cancellation. You can ask a question at:
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salmantino
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Post by salmantino on Feb 15, 2024 9:42:46 GMT
Please can you tell from the picture? Fake, original? DR Michael 307A Thank you It looks like the number ahead of the '1-2 N' ends in a '7.' There were cancellers with the top of the '3' appearing like a '7.' An October 1923 date would be possible; an October 1927 date would not. Purely looking at the cancellation BERLIN- (i.e., not knowing what Berlin office appears in the bottom arch), also would be a possible contemprorary use.
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 15, 2024 9:44:32 GMT
THANK YOU!! THE DATE IS DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT THE FIRST NUMBER IS DEFINITELY 10. THEN I GUESS 27?? that's why I'm asking for advice because I'm not sure about the order of the year on the stamp. I will allow one more, which I believe to be true. of course, I count on certification afterwards. but I don't want to unnecessarily burden connoisseurs with primitive forgeries. with respect!
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salmantino
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Post by salmantino on Feb 15, 2024 9:53:11 GMT
THANK YOU!! THE DATE IS DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT THE FIRST NUMBER IS DEFINITELY 10. THEN I GUESS 27?? that's why I'm asking for advice because I'm not sure about the order of the year on the stamp. I will allow one more, which I believe to be true. of course, I count on certification afterwards. but I don't want to unnecessarily burden connoisseurs with primitive forgeries. with respect! Continental Europe always: D-M-Y. In Germany, they use ordinal numbers, the dot being the equivalend to st., nd., rd., or th. in English: Xth day of Yth month of year. Whereas the UK writes the name of the month before the (nowadays not frequently), I cannot remember ever having seen numbers as in the US: OCT 5 and 5 OCT (depending on the time period), but hardly ever 10-5 and (almost) always 5-10 as in continental Europe for 5 October.
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Post by rod222 on Feb 15, 2024 10:44:56 GMT
Quote THANK YOU!! THE DATE IS DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT THE FIRST NUMBER IS DEFINITELY 10. THEN I GUESS 27?? kooolabs No Sir, that is a 3 not a 7 You may confirm it by offering us a clearer image Broadly speaking, German postal hammers 1889 -1918 appear to have their 3's rounded like this ...3 I am surprised I cannot find a BERLIN CDS with a "3" (so far) From my collection of stamps, the majority of postal hammers 1920- 1932 had the numeral 3 in the CDS, in a format of 3 with a flat head, oblique centre line, going west, attached to a part "0" as your example appears. 3's like this Sc# 393 1932 A64 Happy to stand corrected.
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salmantino
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Post by salmantino on Feb 15, 2024 12:01:47 GMT
kooolabs No Sir, that is a 3 not a 7 You may confirm it by offering us a clearer image Broadly speaking, German postal hammers 1889 -1918 appear to have their 3's rounded like this ...3 I am surprised I cannot find a BERLIN CDS with a "3" (so far) From my collection of stamps, the majority of postal hammers 1920- 1932 had the numeral 3 in the CDS, in a format of 3 with a flat head, oblique centre line, going west, attached to a part "0" as your example appears. The majority of examples of 'BERLIN' cancellations for 1923 shown on PhilaStempel have a rounded '3' in the year '1923.' However, it shows several examples with the top of the '3' resembling that of a '7.' Looking at other dates for similar cancellations that include a '3' in the date and have 'BERLIN-' in the top arch, there seems to be a propensity for that 7-like '3.' This one for Berlin - Dahlem is a slightly different contemporary cancellation with the 'C' in the lower central arch.
Image from PhilaStempel.
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 15, 2024 14:53:08 GMT
My post couldn't upload an image. ok now This grade should be fine. ?? the numbering is not clear to me. it is different on several stamps. AND ANOTHER QUESTION: in several auctions, I see that this stamp is offered with a later date (not only 1-10.10.) So how is it?
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 15, 2024 15:30:25 GMT
and here's one more
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salmantino
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Post by salmantino on Feb 15, 2024 21:22:06 GMT
This grade should be fine. ?? the numbering is not clear to me. it is different on several stamps. AND ANOTHER QUESTION: in several auctions, I see that this stamp is offered with a later date (not only 1-10.10.) So how is it? What numbering is not clear to you? Can you be more specific? The second stamp you posted is completely different to the first one. Have a closer look at the colour of the overprint.
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Post by kooolabs on Feb 16, 2024 3:41:39 GMT
I stated in my second post that I would display another mark that is verified. And lastly, I put in the third, last grade I have. I wasn't sure about the stamp on the first stamp. That's why I asked. Otherwise, thank you for the explanation about the number 3/7 - with a more detailed examination, it is possible that the number is 3. thank you all.
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Post by gstamps on Feb 16, 2024 5:47:00 GMT
kooolabsThe stamps were valid until November 30, 1923. Your first stamp has only one postal cancellation and I assumed it was used between October 1-10 when that was the rate. The last stamp has 2 traces of postal cancellations on it, which implies that there were more stamps on the envelope (since October 10, the rate has increased from 800 thousand to 2,000,000 marks - see the table I posted previously)
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Post by gstamps on Feb 16, 2024 6:16:22 GMT
kooolabsIt is possible that the last stamp has a false postal cancellation. I found a similar one on the stampsx website.
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salmantino
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Post by salmantino on Feb 16, 2024 8:31:17 GMT
The problem with these hyperinflation stamps is that they are very common unused, but uncommon used. Between the time you paid for your stamps at the counter and left the post office, the tariff had to be changed. So many of these stamps were used for a very limited time. The scarcity of genuine used examples has resulted in fake cancellations being added to many unused stamps. If you consider buying a used stamp with a high catalogue value, always question the veracity of the cancellation.
That also means that you should be wary of such expensive cancelled stamps found in cheap lots. It is great if it is a genuinely used example. But there is a considerable risk they are fake cancels.
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 17, 2024 0:59:54 GMT
The vast majority of these stamps that I have (and I have quite a few) are almost all mint, Here's my only 800 Tausend overprint and there's not really enough of the obliteration to really tell as far as I can see
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salmantino
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Post by salmantino on Feb 17, 2024 9:49:59 GMT
Since the posting of the German chess stamp with matrixcode triggered some discussion, here are the other new 2021 issues with this feature, including a stamp (top left) issued just to introduce the concept of the German stamps "going digital". The top right stamp features a children's programme 'Die Sendung mit der Maus.' In the Netherlands, we recieved German television. The production of this stamp and an explanation of how the matrix code worked featured in one of the programmes aired in 2021.
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Post by viking1234 on Feb 17, 2024 11:03:34 GMT
Collecting Germany I often need to figure out if a postmark is real or false I use thise resource I foun some years ago and find it usefull. Stempeldatenbank linkThis is a Germania stamp 5 Pfg with a Cassel postmark 25.4 1914 I remove the postmark to get a clear view of it next i go to the databse and find a similar Cassel postmark to see if they have the same charataristica. You can see the break in the bridge is Identical, this is how I use it and check it, I normally rotata my stamp and have the pictures in the same resolution then I can slide the copy over the real postmark.
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Feb 21, 2024 19:00:33 GMT
A fun triplet, Pforzheim cancelled …3.1898. Judging the color, the Mi50b version, I think, issued 1893.
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