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Post by bluehens on Aug 8, 2018 18:28:55 GMT
Some spectacular issues by Egypt. History pieces as well |
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renden
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Post by renden on Aug 8, 2018 21:44:07 GMT
bluebenswhat spectacular issues ??........mine ?? Thanks 
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Post by renden on Aug 12, 2018 20:34:42 GMT
Still looking for a Catalogue that lists this series (Scott does not.......not a big surprise)....and finally found ( nl1947) one (I am not going to buy it !!) René
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 12, 2018 20:58:06 GMT
renden, The APRL has a copy of the Feltus catalog which non-APS members may borrow through interlibrary loan. Or, Phil Banser has a copy on sale for $72.
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Post by renden on Aug 13, 2018 16:28:38 GMT
Steve
Thanks for the information....much appreciated !
René
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Post by Bombadil on Sept 10, 2018 10:16:54 GMT
The “British Forces” and “Army Post” stamps were special issues provided at a reduced rate for the purchase and use by the British military forces in Egypt and their families for ordinary letters sent to Great Britain and Ireland by a concessionary arrangement made with the Egyptian government. From Nov.1,1932 to Feb.29,1936, in order to take advantage of the concessionary rate, it was mandatory to use #M1-M11 by affixing them to the backs of envelopes. An “Egypt Postage Prepaid” hand stamp was applied to the face of the envelopes . Envelopes bearing these stamps were to be posted only at British military post boxes.The stamps were cancelled with a rhomboid or “retta” obliterator.
1932,Nov 1 - Scott # M1 - Perf 11
1934,Dec 5 - Scott # M7 - Perf. 14.5 x 14
1935,Apr.24 - Scott # M8 - Perf. 13.5x14 - Type of 1934
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Post by Londonbus1 on Sept 10, 2018 10:39:53 GMT
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Post by sherro on Sept 10, 2018 11:43:44 GMT
A postcard sent from the Cataract Hotel in Aswan (Assuan) on 18 February 1911 and carried to Ismailia (a distance of almost 1,000 kilometres) overnight, probably by train. On 19 February, the card was sent via Travelling Post Office from Ismailia to Port Taufiq (also known as Tewfik, now known as Taofik) at the mouth of the Suez canal, a distance of 94 kilometres. The card was sent to Port Taufiq to "catch" a ship to Singapore. Although I'm unable to identify the ship at this stage, the very scarce postmark of the Penang-Singapore Marine Sorter, a paquebot marking, identifies the ship that delivered the postcard to Singapore. The postmark is Proud D6 (rated 100 on cover), and the date of 10 March 1911 is the date of receipt into Singapore. Proud's list in his Postal History of Malaya Part 1, shows that the P&O steamer "SS Devanha" sailed from Penang on 9 March and arrived in Singapore on 10 March 1911.   |
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Post by Bombadil on Sept 23, 2018 0:47:33 GMT
Official Stamps
Dec-1938 - Scott #O51-O59
Size: 22.5x19mm
Size: 26.5x22mm
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 15, 2018 18:40:17 GMT
So, two strange ones from the packet I was going through yesterday. The "Ministere des Finances" inscription at the bottom tells me I'm either looking at some revenue or fiscal stamps, but no luck finding those in my catalogs. Ideas welcome!  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 15, 2018 18:56:31 GMT
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 15, 2018 19:29:04 GMT
This Sheet is better placed here although it would fit quite well too in the Flags section. This proved to be the last issue of the Kingdom as the mis-guided and misunderstood King Farouk was forced to leave his homeland (and his Stamp Collection) behind. The Stamp and Miniature Sheet were issued to commemorate the Birth of Crown Prince Ahmed Fuad and the Flag shown on the single stamp is the Flag of the Crown Prince of Egypt, adopted in 1946. A rather odd looking Crown is seen on the upper Hoist and the whole is a Swallowtail.  When I look at this item I get a twinge of sadness about what came next. I get it each time. Although the Crown Prince became Prince Regent (until the Republic was declared), he left the Country with his Father and today lives in Paris. |
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Post by renden on Oct 15, 2018 19:45:16 GMT
No answer yet for Xavier`s question......I checked Yvert-Tellier, Scott Specialized, Michel, did not find the 2 stamps......yet !!
René
p.s. Nice post LB1 !!
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Post by Bombadil on Oct 23, 2018 23:59:55 GMT
So, two strange ones from the packet I was going through yesterday. The "Ministere des Finances" inscription at the bottom tells me I'm either looking at some revenue or fiscal stamps, but no luck finding those in my catalogs. Ideas welcome! Xavier, i sent these to an Egyptian stamps dealer i usually buy from . His reply was quite poor but at least he confirmed that these are Revenue stamps from 1938-1939,not listed in any international catalogues but can be found in one specialized catalogue (he did not specify which one  !!) .
I also found a similar listing on Colnect for a 5 millieme, but unfortunately no added info than the above . Here is the link, Colnect .
Cheers 
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 24, 2018 0:09:15 GMT
So, two strange ones from the packet I was going through yesterday. The "Ministere des Finances" inscription at the bottom tells me I'm either looking at some revenue or fiscal stamps, but no luck finding those in my catalogs. Ideas welcome! Xavier, i sent these to an Egyptian stamps dealer i usually buy from . His reply was quite poor but at least he confirmed that these are Revenue stamps from 1938-1939,not listed in any international catalogues but can be found in one specialized catalogue (he did not specify which one !!) .
I also found a similar listing on Colnect for a 5 millieme, but unfortunately no added info than the above . Here is the link, Colnect . Good one, Jad! By the way, Xavier, Londonbus1 collects Egypt revenue stamps, so if that is the area into which these fit, there is an excellent chance that he will be able to identify and provide a reference. Nelson (@falshung ) also has many, many references, and may also be able to provide the answer. |
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 24, 2018 4:56:24 GMT
So, two strange ones from the packet I was going through yesterday. The "Ministere des Finances" inscription at the bottom tells me I'm either looking at some revenue or fiscal stamps, but no luck finding those in my catalogs. Ideas welcome! Xavier, i sent these to an Egyptian stamps dealer i usually buy from . His reply was quite poor but at least he confirmed that these are Revenue stamps from 1938-1939,not listed in any international catalogues but can be found in one specialized catalogue (he did not specify which one !!) .
I also found a similar listing on Colnect for a 5 millieme, but unfortunately no added info than the above . Here is the link, Colnect .
Cheers
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 24, 2018 6:02:13 GMT
Xavier, i sent these to an Egyptian stamps dealer i usually buy from . His reply was quite poor but at least he confirmed that these are Revenue stamps from 1938-1939,not listed in any international catalogues but can be found in one specialized catalogue (he did not specify which one !!) .
I also found a similar listing on Colnect for a 5 millieme, but unfortunately no added info than the above . Here is the link, Colnect . Good one, Jad! By the way, Xavier, Londonbus1 collects Egypt revenue stamps, so if that is the area into which these fit, there is an excellent chance that he will be able to identify and provide a reference. Nelson (@falshung ) also has many, many references, and may also be able to provide the answer. Other than what has already been stated (Ministry of Finance Revenues) I cannot add to this. When I was in the UK I looked for the 'Catalogue of Egyptian Revenue Stamps' by Peter R. Feltus but did not find one. Published in 1982 but not cheap and for me to buy online with postage charges, it's something I don't like to do. Still looking. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 14:49:45 GMT
So, two strange ones from the packet I was going through yesterday. The "Ministere des Finances" inscription at the bottom tells me I'm either looking at some revenue or fiscal stamps, but no luck finding those in my catalogs. Ideas welcome! 1938 The Ministere des Finances Issue Very common as used stamps 5 values Catalog # 21-25 21 1m. emerald green
22 5m. slate lilac
23 30m. gray-green
24 50m. deep blue
25 200m. brown
Lithographed by the Survey Department of Egypt. Inscribed damgha masriya (Egyptian Tax) in the central oval. Watermarked Crown & Arabic F, sideways. Sheets were issued with control numbers They are found fairly commonly as imperforate proof and obliquely perforated proofs issued for the Royal Palace Collection which was broken up and sold a few years ago. Many revenues were similarly issued for the Royal Collection |
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 24, 2018 15:14:43 GMT
1938 The Ministere des Finances Issue Very common as used stamps 5 values Catalog # 21-25 21 1m. emerald green
22 5m. slate lilac
23 30m. gray-green
24 50m. deep blue
25 200m. brown
Lithographed by the Survey Department of Egypt. Inscribed damgha masriya (Egyptian Tax) in the central oval. Watermarked Crown & Arabic F, sideways. Sheets were issued with control numbers They are found fairly commonly as imperforate proof and obliquely perforated proofs issued for the Royal Palace Collection which was broken up and sold a few years ago. Many revenues were similarly issued for the Royal Collection Most instructive. |
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Post by Bombadil on Jul 10, 2019 16:38:30 GMT
Revenue stamps from Egypt ? Scott does not list them - Thanks ! René General Revenue used 1939-49. Perf 13X13.25 Set should have 10 stamps printed by Survey Dept with crown and arabic F watermark The 3 high value ones, the design is very different Imperf Proofs exist. Proofs on Thick Paper
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Post by Londonbus1 on May 1, 2020 17:34:52 GMT
EGYPT 1921-22. SG#84-97 Printed by Harrison & Sons, typography. Multiple Crescent & Star watermark in groups of 3. Perf 13½x14 or 14 (20,50,100m)  |
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Post by marking on May 1, 2020 18:43:00 GMT
Proofs of the first issue of 1866. Just about all I have left of my most favourite Egypt collection. What source described these as proofs? Generally proofs, waste and remainders had no overprints Overprints were faked and well done Imperfs with overprints were almost as common as perfed ones based on spec. cats. The margins were quite large There are many perf variations and some rare one with 2 sides perfed In any case here are the perfed 1866 ones Although not noted, there are 2 easily Id Types of each stamp  Sc1  Sc2  Sc3  Sc4  Sc4a  Sc5  Sc6  Sc7 |
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Post by spain1850 on May 31, 2020 13:37:29 GMT
Thought these Special Delivery issues were pretty cool.  |
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Post by renden on Oct 13, 2020 16:49:20 GMT
First Egyptian stamps were issued on 1 January 1866. The 1867 issue featured a pyramid and the sphinx. Stamps issued in 1872 were inscribed in Italian "Poste Khedive Egiziane'. Egypt joined the UPU in 1875. From 1879 stamps were inscribed in French.(ref Wikipedia) Some early 1872 and 1879 surcharged in black : now I have to advise that the Scott numbering was done when I was a young "puppy" and not revised - I will do when I transfer my 254 Égypte classics to custom pages or Steiner pages (I will check them before as they might not show spaces for sub-types)Sc 22b  Sc 20a Sc 23c  Sc 27 Sc 28  |
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Post by renden on Nov 28, 2020 17:56:25 GMT
As part of the Mystery Lot bought from Londonbus1, Michael, this nice 1922 Egypt series marking the Independent Kingdom. Stamps are Scott 78-88 and the 200m plum is #91 (WMK. 119) All others have WMK. 120 Thanks Michael ! René  |
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Post by paul1 on Jun 27, 2022 18:16:42 GMT
As a big fan of overprints, I was pleased to find this 1922 example of O.H.E.M.S. in a recent job lot of Egyptian stamps. The official overprints used prior to Independence, and used c. 1893 to 1922, appear as shown in the attached picture on the green definitive 2 Mills Sphinx/Pyramid - O.H.H.S. (On His Highness's Service), and often accompanied by the Arabic equivalent. But, for 1922 (the year of Independence) they obviously wanted to celebrate big time, so the usual overprint became 'On His Egyptian Majesty's Service (O.H.E.M.S.) - of course the overprint may have been used for longer than one year - it's shown here on a blue 10 Mills definitive of Amenophis III. I've not seen this before, so could be uncommon.   |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 9, 2022 15:27:28 GMT
having just done battle with C19 sphinxes/pyramids, and SG, I now have a little more respect for others who do the same, and a question arises out of this regarding the 10 paras mauve, and 5 paras brown - SG 29 and 44, I think - but please correct me if that's wrong. Out of several dozen of these definitives of various values, dating from the late 1870s into early C20, all but these two have a variety of postmarks/cancellations you'd expect to see on these issues, when cancelled in Egyptian cities. However, these two show clearly the 'oval of bars' type of obliterator, similar to that used commonly for items cancelled in the U.K., where the oval almost always carried a No. centred within a circle or diamond, within the oval. So, might it be that these two, with their oval obliterator, were cancelled in the U.K., or perhaps a ship's cancellation whilst in an Egyptian port perhaps, or even an official cancellation. It would seem obvious that the upper case A indicates Alexandria, but could be wrong. I was thinking of something like the British stamps used abroad where, for example, some of the Victorian issues cancelled in Malta, had 'A25' within oval with bars - and wondered if these Egyptian examples were vaguely along the same lines. thanks for looking.  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jul 9, 2022 15:53:42 GMT
paul1.......Yes, it's an 1878 Barred Oval from Alexandria. This type of 'British style' cancel appears to have been used only for Alexandria according to the Egypt Study Circle. When I was collecting Egypt stamps many moons ago, I also searched for others but never found any. I won't post a link because I got an 'insecure' warning but you can take a look at the postmark page of the ESC for other types of Egyptian postmarks. Londonbus1
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Post by paul1 on Jul 9, 2022 16:00:40 GMT
very big thanks Michael for your quick reply - I think these two stamps were issued 1872 - 1879 - prior to the currency change. I rather like these barred oval obliterators, they have a very official and impressive look. So, you're saying that this oval looks never to have appeared on any other values - and I should get both in one hit, already - well wasn't I lucky;-);-), and most curious that this feature appears to have occurred on Alexandria cancellations only - I will try the link you mention, and thanks again, much appreciated.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jul 9, 2022 16:12:02 GMT
Hi again paul1.....I was saying that the cancellation type was ONLY used in Alexandria. I am sure it was used on other values and a quick Google check confirms that. First known use was 1878 but until which year I do not know. Given that the stamps were of 'definitive' style in those days, it would be best to search for covers with the cancel to check for dates as single stamps would not take both parts of it (datestamp & oval). |
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