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Post by paul1 on Jul 9, 2022 16:37:08 GMT
thanks Michael - I now understand:-) My knowledge of C19 British presence in Egypt virtually non-existent - had you asked I might have thought Cairo was the big cheese locale, but maybe not so - no matter. cheers
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Post by paul1 on Jul 13, 2022 10:22:10 GMT
the attached is a 1 piastre ultramarine postage due (SG D73) from the 1889 - 1907 printings from De La Rue - and the cancellation shows a date of what looks like 1909, and the letters ...ANTA. Am assuming this is probably Tanta, a city midway between Cairo and Alexandria, and apparently a major C19 commercial centre for the manufacture of cotton goods - there was/is a major rail line passing through the city which am assuming had connections to Alexandria and Cairo. However, it's the u/c T in box that's the unusual feature here (and isn't it placed neatly!) and which I can't see in the Egypt Study Circle list of postmarks for around that time, although that list does show a circular postmark showing TANTAH, which am assuming refers to the same location but with local spelling perhaps. The ESC provides a caption to the TANTAH CDS which suggests that this post mark was issued from the early 1880s but only for use of government offices. So, is it possible the T indicates 'train', or something else I've not thought of - any ideas folks and thanks for looking. P.S. Perhaps it simply indicates the city of TANTA ??  |
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Post by daniel on Jul 13, 2022 11:41:37 GMT
Hi paul1, it's a postage due mark T for the French word Taxe. Daniel |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 13, 2022 12:35:17 GMT
wow - you've come to my rescue again daniel, thank you so much. I have two or three dozen dues from this period/printing, and this is the only stamp with the T, which seems perhaps a very low incidence. However, good to know the answer and thanks again. The standard SG catalogue for Commonwealth East Africa with Egypt and Sudan ceases c. 1922 - which catalogue do I need to continue Egypt after that date - grateful for your guidance.
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 13, 2022 13:45:46 GMT
The earlier post of barred oval A cancel makes sense as Alexandria was the centre for mail Packet ships across the Mediterranean, the French in particular had regular sailings to Marseilles linking through France by train,which assumed particular significance during the Crimean war and later , much faster than the sea route via Gibraltar and Bay of Biscay.
Australian, and Indian mails were faster when routed via the Red Sea and overland to Alexandria, or later via Suez
Cairo was less important postally until 1930s and WW2 when it was HQ of British Army for North Africa
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Post by paul1 on Jul 13, 2022 15:52:06 GMT
think I've answered my own question re the catalogue for the continuation of Egypt - it looks to be SG Part 19 - Middle East.
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Post by paul1 on Jul 15, 2022 16:15:53 GMT
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Post by paul1 on Jul 23, 2022 17:40:58 GMT
Released on 17th May 1940, this issue depicts Princess Ferial/Farial at age 18 months - the eldest child of Egypt's King Farouk. An attractive stamp described as benefitting 'Child Welfare Fund', and stated on my oldish catalogue page as a 'Semi-Postal Stamp'. Is that because of the intended part revenue pledged to the Welfare Fund does anyone know, or was there some other reason for this catalogue description ?? thanks.  |
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Post by daniel on Jul 23, 2022 22:39:34 GMT
Released on 17th May 1940, this issue depicts Princess Ferial/Farial at age 18 months - the eldest child of Egypt's King Farouk. An attractive stamp described as benefitting 'Child Welfare Fund', and stated on my oldish catalogue page as a 'Semi-Postal Stamp'. Is that because of the intended part revenue pledged to the Welfare Fund does anyone know, or was there some other reason for this catalogue description ?? thanks. This stamp was indeed a semi-postal or charity stamp. 5 mills postage plus 5 mills for charity, Child Welfare, SG 284. The stamp was re-issued in 1943 overprinted 1943, SG 289. |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 24, 2022 7:49:33 GMT
many thanks daniel and appreciate you adding the SG No. which I should have done in the first place. The re-issue was apparently for the fifth birthday of the Princess, and looks like SG 289a - with 1943 in Arabic - are worth considerably more - unfortunately, I don't have one.
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Post by paul1 on Jul 26, 2022 20:57:22 GMT
I did wonder whether this item had sufficient interest to post, but if nothing else it shows the legitimate use of 'flaw' rather than 'variety' - I think  . Not the best of stamps to photograph, and my efforts at blow ups don't do the subject justice. This is the top value of 1 Egyptian Pound from SG 429 - 432 issued 1953 showing Queen Nefertiti, and looks to be one of the earliest to use this borderless all over one colour background. The identical bust portrait was used again three years later as SG 518 - and the same image of the Queen was used later still for overprints for UAR and PALESTINE. The flaw stamp here shows a substantial fly speck on the Queen's headwear which is all the more noticeable against the dark of the 'hat' - plus the same stamp shows a obvious red shift downward from the eyes and mouth - the 'slap' has moved  - might this be a 'registration' error?? Not sure if this bust image is a straight lift from her tomb effigy, but the Queen's neck looks anatomically too long. There are couple of other shots of same stamp without these problems just for comparison.     |
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Post by renden on Jul 26, 2022 21:16:28 GMT
Will look tomorrow in my SG concise and Scott Specialized 2021 Thanks Paul - René Which catalog ### as there is some french in there  |
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Post by paul1 on Jul 27, 2022 7:47:56 GMT
Morning René - my source on this occasion is 'Stanley Gibbons - Part 19 Middle East - 4th Edition 1990. Forgot to say - this speck is 2 mm in dia.
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Post by djcmh on Jul 28, 2022 3:54:44 GMT
think I've answered my own question re the catalogue for the continuation of Egypt - it looks to be SG Part 19 - Middle East. Gibbons at least since the 2010s puts Egypt in the Northeast Africa volume. Middle East today only covers the Fertile Crescent (Israel/Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq).Arabia is the other "Arab Middle East" volume. Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan are in Central Asia volume (last published 2007). |
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 7, 2022 4:12:20 GMT
I have some sorting to do today!!  |
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 7, 2022 9:56:06 GMT
So far so good.  |
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Post by rod222 on Nov 29, 2023 3:49:46 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Nov 29, 2023 7:11:22 GMT
According to Scott, if I am reading it correctly, these are Counterfeits and Forgeries (Bars only)
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Post by angore on Nov 30, 2023 10:52:32 GMT
What software do you use to create the images (stamps on gray(grey) background).
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Post by rod222 on Nov 30, 2023 13:09:36 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Nov 30, 2023 20:06:20 GMT
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Post by darkormex on Nov 30, 2023 23:30:45 GMT
I am enjoying this collection. I set aside my Egypt collection more than a year ago but recently picked up more Egypt on old album pages at our recent stamp bourse. At some point soon I will try to get back to mounting what I have. I sort of left off at 1940 or so. Egyptian stamps are really attractive and they mainly stay with themes/topics that are relevant to the culture/country.
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Post by rod222 on Dec 1, 2023 0:36:49 GMT
I am enjoying this collection. I set aside my Egypt collection more than a year ago but recently picked up more Egypt on old album pages at our recent stamp bourse. At some point soon I will try to get back to mounting what I have. I sort of left off at 1940 or so. Egyptian stamps are really attractive and they mainly stay with themes/topics that are relevant to the culture/country. Agree Darrin, that's what struck me as well, I think mine peter out at around 1966 Not aware of the very modern stuff. Londonbus 1 had a fabulous collection of the early material, but I think he sold it off. |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 1, 2023 1:21:31 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Dec 1, 2023 20:20:04 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Dec 1, 2023 20:53:22 GMT
Egypt : Notes from the past (2000)
Author Unknown
Notes from the Past
Egypt's First Stamps
Egypt began 1866 with reforms in the postal system. The change to use of postage
stamps was announced in a December 21, 1865, decree as follows:
The Post Offices alone are authorized to sell postage stamps.
The postage stamps are of seven different kinds which are distinctive by reason of
their colour and value, that is to say:
5, 10, and 20 paras . . .
1, 2, 5, and 10 piastres . . .
Correspondence to foreign countries must not be thrown into the (letter) box, but
taken to the dispatch window . . . Payments of the postage on letters sent to foreign
countries must be effected by means of Egyptian stamps for the internal journey to
Alexandria; foreign postage must be paid in the stamps of the country that is charged
with the forwarding.
Although essays had been produced by a number of artists in both Paris and London,
the Italian firm of Fratelli Pellas of Genoa was given the printing contract. The frame
design of the 5 piastres value was based on a rejected essay for the first Italian stamps
submitted by the firm.
With the exception of the 1 piastre all the stamps were lithographed in sheets of 200,
arranged in rows of twenty. The 1 piastre is typographed in two panes of one
hundred. The colored backgrounds were overprinted in Turkish in black with
'Egyptian postage stamp' at the top, 'Egypt' in the center, and the value in paras or
grousch (piastres) at the bottom. The overprint was typographed on the 1 and 2
piastres but lithographed on the others.
A thin grayish wove paper watermarked with a pyramid surmounted by stars intended
for each stamp was used for all values except the 1 piastre. The 1 piastre is printed on
thicker white, unwatermarked paper with a glazed surface. It may have been that this
paper was intended to be used on the Italian contract which Fratelli Pellas bought in
anticipation.
It is believed that the stamps were perforated and gummed in Egypt. There is some
evidence that the printer did some perforation although it may have only been for
tests. A variety of perforations exist with most stamps being off center.
The stamps remained in use until withdrawn from sale August 1, 1867. The stamps
were demonitized on September 1 but were exchangeable for stamps of the second
issue through October 31, 1867.
Posted August 4, 2000
Editor's Note: I have willingly excerpted (almost plagiarized) this from Stamps Day
By Day, L. N. and M Williams. Blandford Press Ltd, 1950.
Index of 508 Notes from the Past
Egypt Watermarks by Scott reference
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. Not the best of stamps to photograph, and my efforts at blow ups don't do the subject justice. This is the top value of 1 Egyptian Pound from SG 429 - 432 issued 1953 showing Queen Nefertiti, and looks to be one of the earliest to use this borderless all over one colour background. The identical bust portrait was used again three years later as SG 518 - and the same image of the Queen was used later still for overprints for UAR and PALESTINE.
- might this be a 'registration' error??
