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Post by stainlessb on Aug 5, 2023 17:02:52 GMT
Thanks Chris! I found bits and pieces about all, though Tchantchés was the most vague, especially trying to connect the info to the image, I may redo the page, or assemblw an adjacent page which would allow for more details. It's hard to be real descriptive with only 3 or 4 words.
I will check out your links!
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 5, 2023 22:01:22 GMT
1944 Heraldic Lion with Victory "V", printed by Waterlow & Sons, Ltd. London COB 674 - 689 (BELGIQUE - BELGIE), and 674A - 69-89A (BWLGIE - BELGIQUE). I decided to make these pages as I thought I had most of them... seems more than a few holes, which surprised me as they are not an especially high CV set, and they were in use from 1944 -1959...something to loo0k out for   |
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Post by cjoprey on Aug 6, 2023 12:13:12 GMT
Hi Stan stainlessb - I have spares of all of your gaps except for the 10 francs Belgie-Belgique. I will get them sent out to you.  |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 6, 2023 13:54:41 GMT
Thank you Chris! Do let me know what you are looking for, and if I have I will send gladly send back- I have found a few of the non-square frame ree-cancels that we discussed a while back.
Cheers
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 6, 2023 17:55:11 GMT
Before I went on a 4 week vacation I left a bid on a Norwegian auction. It was described as a large lot in two 64 pages stock books with some pages overfilled! I was the only bidder ang got it for the asking price + wat and the rest. All in all it cost me (€325 or 383$) Here are the top stamps 
Now I have not had time to look closely at any of the stamps, but it look good. Here are some images of the rest in the albums.     As you can see I have a lot of work ahead. But I guess most of it will be saved until I retire in about two years time. |
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Post by cjoprey on Aug 6, 2023 19:26:41 GMT
Thank you Chris! Do let me know what you are looking for, and if I have I will send gladly send back- I have found a few of the non-square frame ree-cancels that we discussed a while back. Cheers stan Thanks Stan stainlessb - if you have any of the hexagonal pre-cancels going spare I would love them! I still haven't got a single one of those... |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 7, 2023 0:29:13 GMT
Belgium 1941 European Royalty COB # 573 -582  |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 8, 2023 20:54:58 GMT
Arrived today to go with my St. Martin series, here are COB 592A (perforated) BELGIE BELGIQUE AND 592B (IMPERF) BELGIQUE BELGIE   |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 8, 2023 23:07:29 GMT
1938 King Leopold III left profile, Type Poortman, COB 429 - 435B. There are some later denominations, including one surcharged issue that was issued 2 years before the non-surcharged stamp was issued, and COB has the same color listed for different variants for the 2 F (431 and 431a are both listed as violet), and the 10F, (434, and 434a both listed Violet-Brown)_. In each case the issue periods are different, and in both cases , as well a number of other stamps, they are not in chronolgicalorder. If anyone know's of some characteristic, please let me know... without something it would seem to render mint stamps of little help. I see Scott has them all grouped together and lists second perforation, but that is for the later issue/denominations... and it doesn't seem to agree with COB <sigh> I'll have to double check the 10 and 20F.... I can see I will need to seek som lots of this series for more stamps to compare... If any of you have a representative set of the variants, please post! I suspect some of these are incorrect, but it is a start   |
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Post by cjoprey on Aug 9, 2023 16:02:37 GMT
Stan stainlessb - I can shed some light on the the duplicate 2F and 10F stamps - you may have noticed the "g.b." and "g.j." abbreviations after them? It stamds for "gomme blanche" and "gomme jaune" - in other words, white gum or yellow gum on the back. Not the easiest to identify if you only have used stamps of course... :/ Note that for the later issues the major characteristic is that they are perf 11.5 - but both the 10F and the 20F do come on both P1 paper (dull and slightly reddish under UV) and P3 paper (bright streaky yellow under UV). You caused me to go through all my variants and sort out the colour variations - once I've done that I'll post them here in the hope they may be of use. |
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Post by cjoprey on Aug 9, 2023 16:28:52 GMT
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 9, 2023 20:33:48 GMT
Excellent information Chris ( cjoprey) and I retract my statement regrading the usefulness of mint stamps!!! |
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 13, 2023 12:51:38 GMT
I have been working on creating new Belgium pages. First out is King Leopold 1865-67. The first issue (1865-66) is perf 14.5x15, line perf. The second issue (1867) is perf 15, comb perf. I have focused on the Belgian special catalogue known as COB. I like siple album pages, a lot of catalogue info is not my style. But there must be enough info to recognize what stamp it is. Click on images to enlarge them. 
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 13, 2023 16:16:58 GMT
Coat of arms 'Small lion' These stamps are hard to get in perfect condition. I have included some 'defects' that I think has the right color, hard to know. As in the previous serie there are two different perforations. The two first, imperforated I have I think 5 of, but they all looks like the perforation is cut of. Some of them I can see traces of perf, others not. I left them out of the collection.   |
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Post by tobben63 on Aug 13, 2023 20:36:12 GMT
Last one today. Lying Lion, COB 29-29. COB 26 1c was the first Belgian stamp with the country name on it, BELGUIQUE.  |
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 13, 2023 20:53:16 GMT
Previous issues either had the King’s portrait or the Royal Arms . With increased use of stamps for prepayment to other countries ( especially after the establishment of UPU in 1874) it became standard to include the country name. ( except for GB , which never did !)
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 15, 2023 21:34:18 GMT
Todays pbit of progress Issue COB #'s PA1 - PA7 - Air mail stamps, in use from 1930 until 1948  |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 22, 2023 23:34:46 GMT
COB 340 lits several varieties, one of which 340-V1 1st E in BELGIE i (top right side) s broken (doesn't say where) The image below the middle rung of th E has a break, none of th eother stamps I have of this denomination has this small break- Is this the variety? (am I deciphering htis correctly?)  |
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 23, 2023 1:02:09 GMT
COB 340 lits several varieties, one of which 340-V1 1st E in BELGIE i (top right side) s broken (doesn't say where) The image below the middle rung of th E has a break, none of th eother stamps I have of this denomination has this small break- Is this the variety? (am I deciphering htis correctly?) I hate to be a skeptic Stan but I think I see part of the postmark/cancel crossing the centre bar of the ‘E’. |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 23, 2023 15:16:02 GMT
Here's a close-up (in case you might be lookingt at the wrong E ).... well a closer clopse-up The break is all green  |
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 23, 2023 15:24:39 GMT
Here's a close-up (in case you might be lookingt at the wrong E ).... well a closer clopse-up The break is all green That was the 'E' I was looking at and it still looks black like part of the cancel to me but you have the actual stamp so would know best. Even better would be to see an image of another verified example. Here is my close up of your close up. I see clearly the green gap in the ‘B’ above the ‘E’.  |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 23, 2023 15:42:20 GMT
i'd love to see another example. I've tried to make my image larger (scanned at 3200) but is isd the same size when posted. The break is all green No sign of cancellation in/on the center rung
anybody???
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Post by anglobob on Aug 23, 2023 16:14:05 GMT
stainlessbStan....I found these but no idea if they are of any help.My eyesight is not as good as it used to be..... Bob 
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 23, 2023 16:33:08 GMT
I find it interesting stainlessb that in your stamp there is a break in the B on the upper right that does not show in any of the stamps anglobob just shared. |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 23, 2023 21:30:02 GMT
Yes, I believe that is the variant. Most of my other 35c green look like anglobob (and thanks Bob, all opf your look like the non-variant). COB gives no indication as tro how common (or not these are), although there is a , but there is a 5X CV for it. |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 24, 2023 20:10:44 GMT
Here's a image of the center rung of the E taken on my scope, (Celestron) which unfortunately stopped updating their software for OSX, so I am now using Photo booth and unfortunately the image is "Backwards" so although i have rotated so the rungs of the E are in the correct direction, the top of th eimage is actually the bottom..... I could put in gimp and do a mirror image, thenm rotate, but I think this will show that the break is filled with green ink  I have an inquiry in to Celestron as they are showing theire newest digital scopes have Mac/OSX software. I am hoping it will work with mine (about 2+ year old, and they no longer offer this particular model). |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 26, 2023 22:33:01 GMT
While doing some organizing and sorting for another page, in among my 1912 Coat of Ar,s/Standing Lion,. Albert I series, COB 108 -125, I have this #110, but the color is wrong (either dark green or green-yellow) ... a changeling? othere than a hing stain on the back, it looks pretty normal from the back thoughts?  |
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Post by cjoprey on Aug 27, 2023 11:57:46 GMT
Here's a image of the center rung of the E taken on my scope, (Celestron) which unfortunately stopped updating their software for OSX, so I am now using Photo booth and unfortunately the image is "Backwards" so although i have rotated so the rungs of the E are in the correct direction, the top of th eimage is actually the bottom..... I could put in gimp and do a mirror image, thenm rotate, but I think this will show that the break is filled with green ink I have an inquiry in to Celestron as they are showing theire newest digital scopes have Mac/OSX software. I am hoping it will work with mine (about 2+ year old, and they no longer offer this particular model). I had a look in my Balasse - it only mentions #340 V1 with the following description: "Premier E de BELGIE avec empattement à la barre horizontale supérieure et tache blanche sur la poitrine au-dessus de l'I de BELGIQUE" - whic I believe to translate to "First E of BELGIE with serif at the top horizontal bar and white patch on the chest above the I of BELGIQUE" - sadly that doesn't appear to describe the one you have. None of the 24 copies I have of this stamp exhibit any flaws either so I can't compare. |
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Post by cjoprey on Aug 27, 2023 12:02:36 GMT
While doing some organizing and sorting for another page, in among my 1912 Coat of Ar,s/Standing Lion,. Albert I series, COB 108 -125, I have this #110, but the color is wrong (either dark green or green-yellow) ... a changeling? othere than a hing stain on the back, it looks pretty normal from the back thoughts? Balasse lists 3 colour variations - green, dark green and green-yellow, none of which this appears to match. It does note there is a proof reprint in 1929, which it lists as #110 E2 in black. Does make me wonder if this one could be one of those that has bleached... |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 27, 2023 14:21:10 GMT
I had a look in my Balasse - it only mentions #340 V1 with the following description: "Premier E de BELGIE avec empattement à la barre horizontale supérieure et tache blanche sur la poitrine au-dessus de l'I de BELGIQUE" - whic I believe to translate to "First E of BELGIE with serif at the top horizontal bar and white patch on the chest above the I of BELGIQUE" - sadly that doesn't appear to describe the one you have. None of the 24 copies I have of this stamp exhibit any flaws either so I can't compare. Balasse - I need to find a copy! and like France references, it appears there is no accepted standard..... You have COB, but for the benefit for those who do not, COB lists three (3) variants for the 35 centime Mercury issue: 3401-V1 - 1 er E de BELGIE casse ( 1 st E of BELGIE broken ) 340-V2 - 1 er E de BELGIE alongé VT ( 1 st E of BELGIE broken ) The VT references variant described in catalogue by Willy Balasse [perhaps this is the variant you have referenced?] 340-V3 - Tache blancheentre 5 et c White spot between 5 and c |
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