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Post by cindycan2 on Aug 5, 2014 4:05:52 GMT
Yes the majority of cinderellas were made specifically to go on envelopes. The post office prefered them to be on the back, but many were still put on the front. The exceptions would be trading/savings stamps that were pasted into booklets that could be redeemed for merchandise once filled, and dues/receipt stamps that were pasted onto membership cards or booklets. Forgeries and fakes were made to go into collectors' albums, whereas counterfeits were put on envelopes to defraud the postal system. For many cinderellas, finding them tied to a dated cover is the only way to ascertain the country of origin and the period of use.
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Post by cindycan2 on Aug 9, 2014 22:10:42 GMT
The curious case of the Railway Letter stamps
This is what they look like:   According to Covert, they were issued in 1971 and "used on mail sent by train from Montreal to New York during the strike". The 50 cent rate was paid to transport the letter to New York, apply US postage and mail the letter. The $1 rate was the same, but for airmail postage. The first design featuring the 4 cents train stamp from 1951 was used only 1 day for fear that Canada Post would object to the reproduction of the stamp. The designs using the 1 cent New Brunswick train stamp were used for the rest of the usage period. There are apparently no known FDCs or philatelic covers, though some stamps have been seen cancelled with "RAILWAY LETTER" in a rectangle.
 I tried to find information on the 1971 Canadian postal strike, but came up empty. There was a postal strike in the UK in 1971, but it would not have necessitated a mail service between Canada and the US. There was a Canadian postal strike in 1970 but it only amounted to a rotating series of 24-hour walkouts, not really enough of a bother to initiate a strike mail service. There was a mail strike in the US in March of 1970 that curiously only affected the eastern half of the US, starting in New York City. I'm wondering if these stamps were actually used during the 1970 US postal strike to get mail from NYC into the Canadian postal system at Montreal. I suspect that the train involved was probably the Laurentian, a same-day passenger service operated by the Delaware and Hudson Railway between Montreal and NYC. The train service operated from 1923 until April 30, 1971 when it was discontinued by Amtrak, which had bought D&HR. A service that could collect mail from NYC to transport it into the Canadian postal system in Montreal could certainly be profitable during the 2 weeks that the US strike lasted (as the mail could be forwarded to the western US or overseas). Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 9, 2014 22:38:30 GMT
A number of ebay listings for these items suggest they were associated with the 42-day Canada Post strike in 1981 (June 30 - August 12).
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Post by cindycan2 on Aug 21, 2014 18:02:54 GMT
I exchanged emails with the seller of those eBay lots. She will try to find a cover from 1981 that has one of the labels. That would certainly solve the mystery.
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Post by cindycan2 on Aug 21, 2014 18:28:07 GMT
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Post by cindycan2 on Oct 4, 2014 20:14:51 GMT
And this is the green one.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 4, 2014 23:59:06 GMT
Congratulations Cindycan
nearly 2,800 views on your very interesting Cinderella thread.
Collectors in this discipline, will treasure this exceptional resource.
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Post by cindycan2 on Oct 5, 2014 2:44:41 GMT
Thanks to everyone who's contributing to this thread for making it so popular! Who can resist the urge to collect such beauties? My listing of different Canadian cinderellas is almost at 10,000, and I still keep finding new ones nearly every day. A recent addition is this nice one from Guelph, Ontario. Enjoy! |
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Post by cindycan2 on Oct 30, 2014 18:26:03 GMT
In 1944 the Kinsmen Club organized a Hallowe’en Shell-out fundraising drive in which tickets of 1¢ value were sold to the public through local merchants to raise funds for milk to Britain’s children. The tickets were to be collected by children collecting treats on Hallowe’en night, with prizes going to the ones having collected the most tickets. The next year, with the war over, the Hallowe’en Shell-out was used to raise funds for milk for local needy children. The annual Hallowe’en Shell-out Party became an alternative to having kids on the streets, with music and entertainment, and prizes for best costumes. The tickets were printed on both front and back, and on thick cardboard. Though these are technically "tickets", they are often included with other cinderellas as they are the same size as stamps and have the same look. Happy Hallowe'en! 1944 1945 1945 or later
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Post by cindycan2 on Nov 7, 2014 5:23:52 GMT
Another interesting Canadian cinderella...
The Scenery Shop was a souvenir and curios store located at 310 Granville Street in downtown Vancouver from 1926 to 1931. It issued an advertising stamp featuring a thunderbird totem pole modeled after the “Tootooch” Thunderbird House pole erected in Stanley Park in 1924. The stamp was affixed to items sold in the shop. The back of the stamp has a tiny script explaining the origins of the totem pole. The stamp measures 22 x 25 mm. Try to read the text!   If you need help with the text, check out this link. |
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Post by cindycan2 on Nov 15, 2014 21:52:33 GMT
Have a look at this...  Hey wait! you say. What is a stamp with Easter Island statues doing in the Canadian cinderellas thread? Read on... Dr. Stanley C. Skoryna of McGill University in Montreal directed the organization of the Canadian Medical Expedition to Easter Island (M.E.T.E.I.), a twenty-five person expedition sponsored by the World Health Organization, whose specific tasks were to conduct multi-disciplinary studies of native populations, to study methods of collection and preservation of biological materials in field conditions, and to assist the population with medical problems. The expedition operated between October 1964 and February 1965. It was supported by the Canadian naval vessel, H.M.C.S. Cape Scott which delivered the expedition personnel, equipment and twenty-four trailers to Easter Island. To help raise funds, the Expedition issued a commemorative seal printed in green and featuring two statues either side of “M.E.T.E.I”, with “1964-65” at top and “RAPA NUI / (CHILE)” at bottom. Rapu Nui is the Polynesian name for Easter Island. The seal was attached to a postcard depicting a map of Easter Island with the plan for the placement of the twenty-four trailers used by the expedition. The postcard was franked with the METEI seal and a 5 centesimo Chilean postage stamp celebrating the 150th anniversary of Chile's first national government, and postmarked February 11, 1965.
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Post by cindycan2 on Dec 26, 2014 18:31:32 GMT
One of my favorite Christmas Cinderellas. This was issued in 1926 by the Victorian Order of Nurses, an organisation founded in 1897 by Lady Ishbel Aberdeen, the wife of Canada's then current Governor-General, and named in honour of Queen Victoria's diamond jubilee. Merry Christmas to all, and a Happy New Year! |
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Post by jamesw on Dec 26, 2014 19:12:34 GMT
Great labels!
FYI the building pictured in the Toronto Centennial label posted at the top of this page by Mr. Bus is Toronto's Old City Hall (as it is now known) which these days houses provincial courts. A stunning building, I spent many hours there in one of my first jobs out of art college as a sketch artist for one of our local TV stations.
You certainly met a 'better' class of people...
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Post by rod222 on Dec 26, 2014 19:54:47 GMT
Cigarette Label Appears unlisted in the Field Guide to Cinderella Stamps of Canada Imperial Tobacco Company of canada Issued by the Canadian YMCA  |
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Post by cindycan2 on Dec 28, 2014 5:14:01 GMT
An important question: if a label is not intended to be used on postal stationery, should it be considered a cinderella? I would tend to define a cinderella as a stamp or label that is not a postage stamp, but that was intended to be used on postal stationery (allowing for a few well-defined exceptions, such as savings/trading stamps, union dues stamps, phantoms & forgeries, etc.). However, things like match labels and jar labels (eg. honey, perfume, etc.), or luggage labels I would not consider to be cinderellas. I wonder what other members think about the line in the sand between a cinderella and a non-cinderella...
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Post by rod222 on Dec 28, 2014 6:55:41 GMT
An important question: if a label is not intended to be used on postal stationery, should it be considered a cinderella? I would tend to define a cinderella as a stamp or label that is not a postage stamp, but that was intended to be used on postal stationery (allowing for a few well-defined exceptions, such as savings/trading stamps, union dues stamps, phantoms & forgeries, etc.). However, things like match labels and jar labels (eg. honey, perfume, etc.), or luggage labels I would not consider to be cinderellas. I wonder what other members think about the line in the sand between a cinderella and a non-cinderella... I like your delineations. As you are probably aware, I'll throw anything on an album page,  I leave it up to me heirs to take or leave. Your considerations are spot on I think, perhaps the line you draw, places the rest under "Ephemera" ? |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 28, 2014 13:10:46 GMT
I think I agree with you both and like Rod I save what I like.I have never felt the need to categorize what it may be though. It really doesn't matter in my mind what it is if I like it.Don't believe I read the rules though so don't go by me. Strictly speaking some must be ephemera but not for me to decide.
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Post by cindycan2 on Jan 1, 2015 7:26:13 GMT
Here's another interesting cinderella from the A. C. J. C. featuring a map of the St-Lawrence River. The slogans are in reference to the A. C. J. C.’s support for rural banking cooperatives such as the “Caisses populaires” founded by Alphonse Desjardins, and translate to: “Hurray for savings, Small streams make mighty rivers”. |
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Post by cindycan2 on Jan 2, 2015 16:18:30 GMT
Thirty years ago, in 1985, Air Canada began regular 22½ hour intercontinental flights between Toronto and Singapore (via London and Bombay) using a Lockheed L-1011-500 aircraft. This label of an airplane ready for a traditional lion dance was issued to advertise the new service.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 16, 2015 18:19:24 GMT
I was fooled (or a fool).I thought I was buying a duplicate set of Vancouver 1936 set at cheap price,turns out similar set Toronto 1937 still a deal at less than $20 for forty stamps.Question for you is my set complete at 40 or are there more ??
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Post by cindycan2 on Jan 16, 2015 23:17:29 GMT
Toronto CNE 1937: full set of 42 stamps
Vancouver Jubilee 1936: brown frame, full set of 42 stamps
magenta frame, full set of 56 stamps
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 16, 2015 23:29:33 GMT
Well I have most of the Torontos,all the Vancouver brown and 40 out of 56 magenta.
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Post by cindycan2 on Jan 16, 2015 23:47:55 GMT
Do you know which ones you are missing. I have some extras...I could take a look.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 17, 2015 3:24:54 GMT
Thanks CC2 Haven't got a clue right now.I have the catalog on my shopping list next month.Armstrongs still has couple.Winter is tight budget time of year.
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Post by cindycan2 on Jan 17, 2015 16:26:35 GMT
I'm hoping to have the 2nd edition of the Field Guide out in May. In the mean time, here's the list of stamps for these three series.
1936 Vancouver Golden Jubilee, magenta set
1. Alberta Wheat Pool Elevator
2. Ballantyne Pier (small boats)
3. Ballantyne Pier (large boat)
4. Brockton Point and City
5. Burns Monument
6. Burrard Bridge
7. Business Section
8. Business Section & Waterfront
9. C.N.R. Depot
10. C.P.R. Docks
11. C.P.R. Docks, Piers B, C and D
12. Capilano Bridge
13. Cenotaph
14. Coal Harbour
15. Courthouse & Hotel Vancouver
16. Dominion Bank Building
17. English Bay
18. Exhibition Grounds
19. Figurehead, Empress of Japan
20. First Baptist Church
21. Grain Elevator
22. Grain Elevators
23. Harbour Scene
24. Harding Memorial
25. Hastings Street West
26. Hollyburn Ridge
27. Hotel Vancouver
28. Hydro-Electric Plant, Ruskin
29. In Stanley Park
30. Indian River
31. Japanese Memorial
32. Kitsilano Beach
33. Loading Lumber
34. Looking Down Granville St
35. Marine Building
36. Marine Drive, West Vancouver
37. Ocean Liners at Dock
38. Passing Brockton Point
39. Pavilion, Stanley Park
40. Peak of the Lions
41. Point Atkinson
42. Pool at Capilano
43. Royal Bank Bldg.
44. Scene Grouse Mt.
45. Second Canyon
46. Seven Sisters, Stanley Park
47. Shaughnessy Street Scene
48. Siwash Rock
49. Standard Bank Bldg
50. The Lions
51. Vancouver Block
52. Vancouver General Hospital
53. Vancouver Harbour
54. View from Grouse Mountain
55. View from Rowing Club
56. West End from the Air
1936 Vancouver Golden Jubilee, brown set
1. Ballantyne Pier (small boats)
2. Ballantyne Pier (large boat)
3. Brockton Point
4. Burns Monument
5. Business Section
6. C.N.R. Depot
7. C.P.R. Docks
8. C.P.R. Pier "A"
9. Canada-Japan Memorial
10. Capilano Bridge
11. Cenotaph
12. Court House
13. Dominion Bank Building
14. Figurehead, Empress of Japan
15. First Baptist Church
16. General Hospital
17. Georgia Street
18. Grain Elevators (train cars)
19. Grain Elevators (no train cars)
20. Harding Memorial
21. Hastings and Granville Streets
22. Hastings Street West (horizontal)
23. Hastings Street West (vertical)
24. Hollyburn Ridge
25. Hydro-Electric Ruskin
26. In Stanley Park
27. Indian River
28. Loading Lumber
29. Marine Drive, West Vancouver
30. Pavilion, Stanley Park
31. Peak of the Lions
32. Royal Bank Building
33. Scene Grouse Mountain
34. Second Canyon
35. Seven Sisters
36. Shaughnessy Street Scene
37. Siwash Rock
38. Standard Bank Building
39. Stanley Park
40. The Lions
41. Vancouver Block
42. View of Harbour
1937 Canadian National Exhibition
1. University College UofT
2. Manufacturers Bldg
3. Fireworks-Princes' Gate
4. The Bandshell
5. Princes' Gate
6. Music Day at the “EX"
7. Automotive Salon
8. Horticulture Bldg & Fountain
9. Vista of Dufferin Gates
10. Electrical Bldg
11. British Section
12. Hart House of UofT
13. Gooderham Fountain
14. City Hall
15. Exhibition Waterfront
16. Provincial Parliament Bldgs
17. Royal Canadian Dragoons
18. Midway
19. Women's Bldg
20. Main Entrance-Ballroom
21. Osgoode Hall
22. Pyrotechnic Display-Grandstand
23. Governments Bldg
24. The Coliseum
25. Horse Palace
26. West Facade. Ballroom
27. Downtown Business Section
28. Auto-Trains, C.N.E.
29. Grand Plaza
30. Horticulture Bldg
31. Memorial Tower at Hart House
32. Strathcona Road
33. Royal York Hotel
34. Food Products Bldg
35. Peace Memorial
36. National Industries Bldg
37. Art Gallery
38. Bank of Commerce Bldg
39. Railway Bldg
40. Administration Bldg
41. Princes' Gate at Night
42. Graphic Art & Photography Bldg.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 18, 2015 0:07:16 GMT
Did my homework.The magenta set from your list#'s 4,9,12,14,18,23,26,27,33,38,41,45,55,56. From the 1937 National Exhibition # 7,25. I can offer going price for any you may have.Should I wait for new issue of the catalog or buy one of the remnants??
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 26, 2015 18:06:19 GMT
Just a quick THANKS to CC2 great stuff arrived and is already mounted in place.With his help we have completed two sets which will benefit some future collector which after all is the best we can do for the hobby.I'll be posting these soon in Funky Frog thread.
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Post by I.L.S. on Jan 27, 2015 7:49:52 GMT
Love looking at all this Canadian (and other) stamps and learning. Thank you!
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Post by cindycan2 on Jan 27, 2015 18:09:40 GMT
A hundred years ago this week, the Montreal Motor show was held in the Liverpool Building of the Allan Line Steamship Company in the old Port of Montreal. A nice label featuring the latest model of touring car on a city skyline was issued to advertise the event. |
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Post by cindycan2 on Feb 7, 2015 15:15:40 GMT
I've now seen 10 different sheets with these Greenpeace charity stamps. They differ in the address (578 Bloor St. W., Toronto; 5611 rue Clark, Montreal; 2444 rue Notre-Dame ouest, Montreal; 185 Spadina Ave., Toronto), perforations (perforated, rouletted, rouletted with printed perforation holes), and the inscriptions and markings on the sheet selvage. But the 3 stamp designs are always the same (whale tail, dolphins, boat). They were issued annually between 1987 and 1992, in both English and French versions.
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