firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 19, 2015 14:08:26 GMT
I have found a #21 1/2 cent LQ with a broken "T" in cents is this a plated variety? I will attempt to post scan when possible but in mean time any info would help.
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 19, 2015 15:51:15 GMT
I think it may be worn plate.Opinions please.
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2015 16:24:36 GMT
Looks like a possible crack in the plate allowing ink to flow in. I was on ralphs site www.re-entries.com/large_queens.html and nothing there. You might have something. Frog I know you have problems with scanners, god knows I almost threw mine out the window a number of times, many times the arm was raised ready to crash down on top of it. If you could take a scan using the scanner (not the microscope)of just the whole stamp it would be of great help, I try and have Ralph drop by to take a look. Meantime here is a copy of the stamp in question this is not the above stamp just one I snagged off a auction siteI have looked over quite a few and have yet to see the broken T
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 19, 2015 16:53:16 GMT
Jack,I went through a small episode to get the microscope to work.I hadn't used it for a while and dang computer forgot it was there.I did try to scan the stamp and zoom in on the T but that was a no go for me.I should have included a normal scan but it really showed nothing in detail so the micro scan.I am still image posting shy .Not ready for more defenseless critiques........ moving on....
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Post by jimjung on May 23, 2015 20:32:48 GMT
A plate crack in CENT is also not listed in Duckworths, The Large Queens Stamps of Canada. Would need a better scan to see if it was indeed a Plate Crack. There was a temporary plate crack in HALF on the 1/2c Large Queen that is rare. This is reported in Duckworth's and it was noted that a complete sheet of 100 exists without the Plate Crack variety. I believe one sold last year. Can't remember where but my first guess would be The Brigham Large Queen Sale. Here are two 3c Large Queens with Plate Cracks. The first one is listed as Scott 25v. Now Unitrade says there are at least 3 of them on the 3c. I have two of the three. The 2nd one is not listed but appears as a horizontal line in the lower right corner. This might also be an Engraver's Slip. This is the only one I have seen like this. If anyone finds one, please let me know.
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Post by Ryan on May 24, 2015 16:01:35 GMT
That's an impressive crack on the top stamp. I'd be surprised if the second one was a crack, though. The width of the line is very thick for a crack in steel, plus it's very straight, missing all the chaotic jaggedness seen on the stamp on top. It almost looks as though the plate has had something dropped on it to create such a straight and wide impression.
Ryan
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Post by jimjung on May 26, 2015 23:16:40 GMT
I haven't figured that one out yet. That's one I'm taking to the next Stamp Show. There are alot of plate varieties on the 3c Large Queen. Here is the Goatee variety ...
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 27, 2015 3:29:55 GMT
jimjung,I'm impressed! I also love large queens but haven't found the goatee (yet).I think at this time I'm over the Admiral issue,Whew. Now I'm into the first cents and large queens.I was thinking a study on #15 is coming soon.A very affordable stamp to gather enough examples to explore.My favorite issue has to be #16 and #17 same stamp different ink.Do you have varieties in the first cents as well? Would love to see them.Unfortunately the price on this issue is climbing and I settle for what I can get reasonable.
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Post by jimjung on May 27, 2015 17:03:14 GMT
Yes. I have an on-going study of the First Cents Issue and the Large Queen Issue. I am concentrating most on the First Cents now and have pretty decent findings on each of the stamps. I have slowed down a little on the LQ's because I do have quite a few. There are only a couple left for me to get.
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Post by jimbooregon on Jul 24, 2015 20:38:20 GMT
Jimjung....that's a "soul patch" goatee on the chin.... but I know what you mean
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Post by jimbooregon on Jul 24, 2015 20:39:30 GMT
woops sorry looking at wrong scan...your right the other is soul patch
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Post by jimjung on Oct 2, 2015 22:29:30 GMT
This is the 1c Large Queen (Scott 23) Orange Yellow shade on thin pelure paper (Duckworth's Paper 9). Fairly scarce paper type. Two examples from my collection both measure .0026 inches in thickness. Notice you can see the design thru the back of the stamp and the paper is very white in color.
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Nov 1, 2015 16:21:34 GMT
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Post by jimjung on Nov 2, 2015 11:15:20 GMT
The 15c and the 6c are a little pricey for the watermarked paper. I think the 6c is a little scarcer and more expensive. When I have a moment, I'll try to post some of the watermarked Large Queens.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 2, 2015 17:51:14 GMT
Has anyone seen my watermarking dish?? Taking advantage of a rain day to get to that page of first cents and large queens I showed you.I came across a three cent LQ with 25a written in pencil on back,pretty sure I got this one cheap as my price limit for that stamp is low ball.I also just perfed a five cent(#26) it is the 12 x 12 so another nice stamp found. Please those that receive stamps from me CHECK them I usually just send along unchecked stock,you never know I might have sent a treasure.If you remember where the watermark dish is send me a message.I Hate Being Old.
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Post by tomiseksj on Mar 2, 2016 19:31:45 GMT
I need a little help from those of you with normal color vision. Would you categorize this 15c Large Queen as #29 (grey violet), 29a (greyish purple) or 29b (red lilac)?
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 2, 2016 21:02:21 GMT
Steve it is more likely The "i" purple various shades, but you can't rule out the lillac shade. Never easy to accurately identify any shades in these.I usually just group them together by shades but then I have a hundred or so large queens.There is a red purple as well.
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Post by rod222 on Mar 2, 2016 23:34:34 GMT
I need a little help from those of you with normal color vision. Would you categorize this 15c Large Queen as #29 (grey violet), 29a (greyish purple) or 29b (red lilac)? Red Lilac for mine.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 3, 2016 13:21:54 GMT
On top of the in box was this poorly centered copy of #30 as always louping it revealed this and the "N" is almost servered I hadn't even opened this lot of Lg Queens a welcome respite from modern stamps.
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Post by jimjung on Mar 13, 2016 5:22:34 GMT
tomiseksj - those pale light purple shades are all early printings 1868-75. These are preferred shades compared to the later blue, grey, darker purple shades. Not sure how to translate that into the Scott or Unitrade numbers. You might want to measure the perfs in case it is the 11 1/2 x 12 which is scarcer. Also check to see if you can see the design from the back which would indicate thin paper, again scarcer stamp.
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Post by jimjung on Mar 13, 2016 5:33:34 GMT
15c Watermarked Paper - here are two shades of this stamp. I find these are on lighter shades. The paper was prone to creasing and poor separation of the perfs which are usually in poor shape. You can see the vertical diamond shapes in the weave clearly on the back of the 2nd stamp below. Letter "E" Letter "M"
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Aug 2, 2016 17:30:40 GMT
Looking for opinions on this one.#28 12 1/2 cent large queen.Looks to me like a misplaced entry.Also an extra spot where normally you'd find the balloon flaw. jimjung
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Post by jimjung on Aug 20, 2016 11:54:15 GMT
frog, the 2 dots in the corner margin comprise the Balloon Flaw variety. This was thought to have been caused by minor plate damage in the 1868-69 time period. This was also reported with three dots on a rare occasion. Sometimes it shows as only one dot because the perforations cut off the outer dot, but it is in fact two dots. This is listed as Unitrade 28iv in recent years.
Not sure about that Misplaced Entry. Would need a clearer scan. This one is a little fuzzy. Cheers and happy hunting ...
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 14, 2016 18:51:43 GMT
Recent arrival #28ii condition Mint NG. Notice transfer of stamp album picture.Sure sign this one was mounted mint.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 14, 2016 18:57:52 GMT
Well photo bucket is not working.Dropped scan of back of stamp.This one is the missing frame line at value tablet.Watch for more.A large batch of queens is on the table and spotted a few more goodies....
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 14, 2016 21:37:47 GMT
An unimpressive #28 but wait... Yes it is the balloon flaw but wait it is also waterrmarked unsure how to value it but definitely a keeper.
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Post by jimjung on Oct 18, 2016 11:08:20 GMT
In Fine Used Condition, the watermark is $300 CAD and the Balloon Flaw is $500 CAD in Unitrade.
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Post by watermark on Oct 18, 2016 12:42:58 GMT
While we are looking at varieties here is another one. Unitrade #25vii the "shaving nick" variety. An interesting heavy line on the Queen's chin.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Oct 19, 2016 3:21:53 GMT
Jimjung,How would you value the stamp with both? (not that it really matters)I'm still working on an inventory list for my insurance quote which will double as an information sheet for Admin. when he's stuck dealing with it.By the way of those that think these things don't crop up,This stamp was in a lot with about eight others that cost me less than thirty dollars.It don't happen all the time but enough that surprises me.
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Post by jimjung on Oct 22, 2016 12:06:53 GMT
frog, I'm not sure the exact method to put a catalog value on these. I believe there is a method specified by Scott's where both catalog values are added with an algorithm. In a auction sale, I believe the value would be a bit more than the the higher of the two variety values. Hence, Balloon Flaw is $500 and Watermark is $300 equals $650. This is for Fine Used in the 2016 Unitrade in Canadian Dollars.
Maybe someone could check the front of their Scott's to give you the exact method.
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