salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on Mar 8, 2020 17:11:23 GMT
Curious...who collects Japan ? I am a Japan collector as well.I started my collection in the late 1960th and stopped buying new issues in 1988.A short time ago,I began to assemble a used only collection,starting with the Koban-issues,leaving out the "Dragons" and the Cherry-blossoms.I found an exchange partner in Japan who is helping me to fill the many,many gaps in that Used-Japan-Collection.He asked me,wether I had terminated my collection with the year 1988 deliberately,because it is the year in which the last stamp of the Showa-Era was issued.Well,I was not aware of this,but I think it is a good date to make a cut.In order to make an exchange easiar,I ordered the current 2020 Sakura-Catalogue from Japan.It took just a week to arrive.However the catalogue was a big disappointment:It no longer lists P.O. in China and Korea,nor Ryukyu and Manchukuo as my previous edition (2001) did.Postal stationery are no longer listed as well.But of course the spring tide of new issues is listed.However in the same (in my opinion) silly way,as Scott does list many issues: a single number for a set,minisheet,etc. and subnumbers a,b,c,d etc.for single stamps.So it becomes hard work to find out,how many stamps were issued in a given time.I tried to count the stamps,issued in 2018.I came up to (about) 515 stamps for that very year ! To me this is madness ! No wonder,that the Japan-collectors have become a threatened species.But then,it does not touch me to hard,as 1988 is my date... at least for now. |
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guyana1230
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What I collect: GUYANA, Surinam, British Commonwealth, Aland, Denmark Finland, Iceland, Japan, Norway, Sweden, USA, Scout Posts, Cinderellas
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Post by guyana1230 on Mar 8, 2020 18:41:10 GMT
I collect Japanese stamps. although I only collect used, no mint stamps from Japan at all. I collect right through to date, used to have a great exchange going with a Japanese Lady living in the UK, her family used to send her loads on a regular basis so it was really good, then when she (I think) was expecting a baby we lost contact and I know she doesn't live where she was at that time. Have tried to find her using facebook etc to no avail.
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Post by feebletodix on Mar 9, 2020 9:56:05 GMT
At some point I am going to have to catalogue my Japanese collection:- [Image intentionally deleted by poster.] The first page. Although I seem to have stalled in the cataloguing process at Canada. Some unhelpful dealer keeps sending me monthly auction catalogues which is a great distraction from getting on with the job in hand |
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Philatarium
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What I collect: Primarily focused on Japan, but lots of other material catches my eye as well ...
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 10, 2020 0:04:00 GMT
feebletodix: Just in case you're interested, the first stamp (top row, far left) on your stockpage, which is supposed to be Japan #2, is, I'm afraid, a forgery. Don't feel bad -- most of the early Japan (Scott #1-54A) is heavily, heavily forged, and most collections have some. Despite the lower resolution of the image, I was able to determine this because these little black marks (Japanese characters) should not be there. Those marks indicate it is a forgery. (These are called "signed forgeries" and are the easiest to spot. However, most forgeries are not signed, so we just got lucky that this one was easy to see.) In this image, I've drawn little circles where those characters appear:  Hope that's helpful! (And sorry for the not-great news ...) -- Dave
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Post by feebletodix on Mar 10, 2020 8:56:15 GMT
Hello Dave, I had assumed it was a forgery, so no sorrow felt. Thank you for the confirmation.  |
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nikhil
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Working on Australia, GDR, Japan
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What I collect: I collect WW. Looking for early issues.
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Post by nikhil on Mar 11, 2020 7:28:18 GMT
Here are some Japan stamps from my collection- They are not sorted yet, planning to do it soon after I soak off the hinges from many of them  |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 11, 2020 21:39:13 GMT
Back in Jul-2018, I first posted images of my early Japan issues, and I got some good and interesting feedback from Nelson ( nl1947), Morten ( classicalstamps), and Dave ( Philatarium). That original post may be found here, back on the first page of this thread: thestampforum.boards.net/post/59423/threadSince that time, I have been the beneficiary of some great help from Dave, who is very knowledgeable about early stamps from Japan, and also very well connected with known experts in the field. Dave also came to visit me at my mother-in-law's house in California, and he scanned my stamps to get better quality images so that others could use those to offer opinions on genuineness. I am pleased to report that someone he knows who is considered an expert in the field told him that these stamps look genuine to her. Based on the feedback, I have decided to re-post my stamps, but using the higher resolution images scanned by Dave.  Japan, Sc 1, 48-mon brown: Plate 1, Position 22 Condition: appears sound with four margins.  Japan, Sc 5, 1/2-sen brown: Plate 1, Position 34 Condition: damaged with repaired corner and multiple tears. Unsure about color: perhaps gray brown?  Japan, Sc 7, 2-sen vermilion: Plate 2, Position 8 Condition: damage both lower corners and roughly cut left margin. I would like to give a big shout-out of thanks to Dave for all the help he gave me in getting these stamps checked out by an expert in the field. I really appreciate it! I definitely got lucky on these, as I acquired them as part of a big mixed lot from a dealer of lots of 19th Century stamps at a low price, perhaps 10-15% of catalogue value at most. Many of the stamps from that lot were damaged or have proven to be forgeries, but perhaps these three have been the hidden treasures out of the bunch. Edit: An added shout-out of thanks to Dave for re-sending me the Plate & Position numbers for these three issues, as I had forgotten that he had already sent them before. Thank you again very, very much, Dave ( Philatarium)! |
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renden
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What I collect: Canada-USA-France-Lithuania-Austria--Germany-Mauritius-French Colonies in Africa
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Post by renden on Mar 11, 2020 21:42:05 GMT
Thanks Chris Beryllium Guy for these scans and history - they bring "credibility" to this Forum  Rene |
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philatelia
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Captain Jack - my best kiloware find ever!
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What I collect: Ireland, Japan, Scandy, USA, Venezuela, Vatican, Bermuda, Austria
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Post by philatelia on Mar 12, 2020 0:44:08 GMT
Wow congrats on finding a few genuine early Japan and for sharing the scans with us. Really appreciate this!
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on May 2, 2020 18:44:26 GMT
Hello, I'm new on this forum and I know nexr to nothing on Japanese stamps. But, I've found these stamps in an old-neglected stockbook. What do you think abou? The first two are type II. Thank you very much in advance for your help.
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on May 6, 2020 16:14:05 GMT
I'm posting again the 2nd and 3rd images, as a friend has pointed that they were upside down. It's clear that I'm not familiar with japanese stamps. I'm sorry
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 8, 2020 23:21:23 GMT
Joan ( cursus), sorry for the delay in responding. I have only a small knowledge of classic Japan stamps, so I will tag others to offer their comments, especially Dave ( Philatarium) and Hironobu ( unechan). Here is a very basic identification of your images:  Japan, Sc 1, 48-mon brown with denomination in black, imperf. Japan, Sc 4, 500-mon blue green with denomination in black, imperf. Japan, Sc 7, 2-sen vermilion with denomination in black, perf. 9-12 & compound   Japan, Sc 35, 4-sen rose, perf. 9-13 & compound, with syllabic character in box above SEN Joan, all of these are my best guesses only, just to get the conversation going again. I am reasonably sure about the first three, at least in terms of the Scott Catalogue numbers. The fourth stamp, I am really not sure. I should also mention that all of these early Japan stamps were extensively forged, so I have no idea if these are genuine or not. If they are genuine, the catalogue values for all of them are in the hundreds of USD. |
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on May 9, 2020 4:41:13 GMT
Thank you very much, Chris. No hurry. They've been for years in a stock-book and I do't collect Japan. It was just for curiosity.
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Post by dermmd on May 11, 2020 18:44:58 GMT
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renden
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Post by renden on May 11, 2020 19:37:34 GMT
cursus Very nice - Japan is sold and I even sent some stamps I found last week to Pete brightonpete....the buyer LOL René
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Post by marking on May 13, 2020 13:33:25 GMT
A favorite 1919 Trial AIRMAIL FLIGHT 1.5 sen blue Sakura C22 23 Scott C1 2 Rare with many forgeries    |
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Post by marking on May 13, 2020 21:44:00 GMT
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Philatarium
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What I collect: Primarily focused on Japan, but lots of other material catches my eye as well ...
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Post by Philatarium on May 13, 2020 22:05:59 GMT
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Post by marking on May 13, 2020 22:20:58 GMT
OK then new Sakura title 'Men & Woman of Culture' 1949-52 |
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Philatarium
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Post by Philatarium on May 13, 2020 22:51:43 GMT
OK then new Sakura title 'Men & Woman of Culture' 1949-52 Thanks for that info. It caused me to go back and look in the catalog to see how it was written in Japanese. It literally reads as "Culture Persons/People Stamps", and doesn't imply a gender, but it certainly looks like the translator inferred one. That portrait on the stamp was perhaps not quite as flattering as one would hope. |
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Philatarium
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Post by Philatarium on May 13, 2020 22:56:16 GMT
That prompted me to go back and look at my old (2002) JSDA Catalog. They translate it at "Cultural Leaders Series", which seems more suitable.
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Post by marking on May 14, 2020 0:18:27 GMT
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Post by marking on May 15, 2020 11:16:23 GMT
 1947 JAPAN RAILWAY 75th Anniversary Sk# C110  1947 SAPPORO PHILATELIC EXHIBITION Sk# C117 |
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Post by marking on May 16, 2020 21:46:47 GMT
 1948 Mishima Philatelic Exhibition Sk# C121  1948 RED CROSS Sk# C137 |
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on May 17, 2020 7:03:33 GMT
continuing with japanese definitives in chronological order:
2 & 4 Sen issued Jan.25th,14 Sen Dec.5th,1938 and 1/2 Sen April 1st,1939.
The "ordinary" stamps of the 1937 definitives,with the exception of the top-values (5 Yen 7.3 millions and 10 Yen 9.3 millions) were printed in big numbers ranging from 95 millions (6 Sen) to 4.862 billions (4 Sen). The above coil stamps however were printed in much smaller quantities: 1/2 Sen 500.000,2 Sen 1.6 millions,4 Sen 1.3 millions and 14 Sen 50.000 only. That explains the relative high price of the latter one,what in used condition is the most expensive 20th century definitive of Japan.
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Post by marking on May 17, 2020 12:58:00 GMT
 1949 Inuyama Children's Exhibition Sk# C159  1949 Newspaper Week Sk# C186 |
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on May 17, 2020 16:34:04 GMT
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Post by marking on May 17, 2020 17:16:36 GMT
 1949 Philatelic Week Sk# C173  1949 Telecommunications Exhibition Sk# C160 (Sc 457) |
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Post by marking on May 19, 2020 14:45:47 GMT
 1950 Byodoin TEMPLE - National Treasures SK#350  1950 NEW YEAR Sakura# N5A |
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on May 20, 2020 12:09:17 GMT
With the 2nd Showa definitive series,the "war-series" I am in some trouble.Although it is not an expensive one, I miss several stamps of that series.So I have to improvise somewhat.Michel lists it in three parts and I follow that listing.
Mi.nos.316-322,issued 1942/44
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