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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 3:48:05 GMT
Greetings from that 'other' land downunder : New Zealand A few of us have travelled across the globe, to share with you on this board, our love of the New Zealand Chalon. The aim is to be able to share, discuss and show pictures of this classic design. Some specialist threads may be started along the way to separate out some of the interesting stories in the evolution of the series. Please do not be shy in showing us what you have there. Pictures are what we are about, and the chat about them that comes with it. Please do share with us. To save me a little bit of effort, here is a link to an NZSGB webpage that talks about the 'NZ Chalons' history in a very simplified way : NZSGB Stamp ImagesThere is, of course, specialised areas within the simplified story with which one can explore. Some areas of specialisation include : PrintersLondon Prints 1854-1855 Richardson Prints 1855-1862 Davies Prints 1862-1873
Papers English Rush Mills - Large Star Local white papers - no wmk Local blue papers - no wmk Pelure paper Gazette paper others
Watermarks Large star NZ Lozenges No wmk No wmk - (papermakers script or block letters)
Separation methods Scissors Roulettes Serrates Pin Perforation
Usages Postal Fiscal
Postmarks Perkins Bacon (PB) obliterators Local obliterators (many) Manuscripts Foreign
etc etc etc
Here is a picture of a fairly common SG114 2d Blue (we use SG in the Commonwealth team!) with a nice CDS of Kowai. Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 21:08:33 GMT
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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 21:19:06 GMT
Just a quick point about catalogs used by us 'colonials' - We use Stanley Gibbons (SG) primarily for the basic numbering of our stamps - Campbell Paterson (CP) is used for in-depth specialisation etc. Unfortunately not many of us use Scott (although I do possess a few pertinent Scott pages for NZ). So apologies to our American audience for that in advance.
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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 21:43:50 GMT
Firstly I would just like to point you to a very famous permanent collection, held in the Canterbury Museum (NZ), of NZ Chalons, which is now available to view online : The Rhodes CollectionSome really lovely stuff in there for the Chalon collector to admire. Here is an example - A page of SG1's !! Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 21:55:34 GMT
The first stamps used in New Zealand are known as 'Londons' - as they were printed in London, England - by Perkins Bacon (PB). These were the only Chalons printed outside of the country. Subsequent printings were produced within the colony by J. Richardson (on contract to the government) and John Davies (the Government printer). Numbers printed initially were quite low : 1d Qty. printed = 12,000 - 50 sheets 2d Qty. printed = 66,000 - 275 sheets 1/-Qty. printed = 8,000 - 33⅓ sheets Of the 1/- 34 sheets were actually printed but a part sheet only sent out to make up the 8,000 requested. PB kept the rest for their archives. They were printed in September of 1854 and shipped to NZ that year along with a printing press, plates, reams of paper, glue, inks, obliterators etc etc Everything that the local colonial government would need to start printing their own stamps. The ship (the Simlah) duly arrived into Port Nicholson (Wellington) early 1855 where it was later trans-shipped to Auckland (the Capital at that point in time). Here are examples of the original values issued : SG1, SG2 & SG3Lovely aren't they? (unfortunately not mine!) Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 22:14:50 GMT
1855 (18 July)Engraved by Humphreys Recess printed by Perkins Bacon Imperf. wmk. Large Star SG 1-3These first stamps were printed on a 'Large Star' paper produced by 'Rush Mills' in England. These stamps were put on sale first in Auckland on the 18th July, 1855 (the official release date - somewhat debated over the years). The 1d Carmine is on a white paper with 'large star'. It is recognised by its shade. Advisable to purchase with a reputable 'certificate'. The 2d Blue and the 1/- Green are both on a large star wmk paper and are notable for their shades of colour. They are both also affected by a chemical reaction between the paper and ink used that has produced a 'blueing' effect most noticable to the backs of the stamps. A 'cameo' effect essentially (although not as strong as seen in some of the early 'line engraved' issues of the UK). SG2 Greenish blue with 'blueing' effect to back of stampDave
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 11, 2020 22:18:13 GMT
Excellent thread, Dave ( DK )! It didn't take you long to start making substantive contributions, which is great. Unfortunately, I do not have my NZ Chalon Head stamps with me here in England, so I will not be able to scan and post images until the time that I am next in California. Under the current circumstances, that will not be for some time yet. I did just notice, however, that the date when these beauties were first issued was 18th July 1855, which means that the 165th anniversary will be one week from today. That's a happy thought!
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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 22:32:42 GMT
Yes indeed. 165 years ago. Seems like yesterday Some people keep digitised copies of their collections on the net so can quickly reference their material whenever, wherever they need to. Jimbabwe certainly does that. Perhaps he could expand on this at some later point of time. I have a blog site that I am putting together also so may (actually WILL) use some of this info I create here for that. I am putting this together rather ad-hoc at present so there will invariably be gaps/omissions and mistakes etc but always happy to stand corrected (as I am from time to time ) Thanks for the feedback Dave
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Post by Philatarium on Jul 11, 2020 22:48:53 GMT
Firstly I would just like to point you to a very famous permanent collection, held in the Canterbury Museum (NZ), of NZ Chalons, which is now available to view online : The Rhodes CollectionSome really lovely stuff in there for the Chalon collector to admire. Could you possibly double-check that link? I tried following it twice and ended up at a page saying "Your query returned no results for object records." for Canterbury Museum. Any additional searching I did came back with either no results or results that were too broad. (And, of course, there's always the chance that the problem is on my end.) Thanks in advance!
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Post by WERT on Jul 11, 2020 23:00:42 GMT
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 11, 2020 23:01:56 GMT
Dave & Dave ( DK and Philatarium): When I tried the link, I got the same result: no record found. I think it does need to be checked.
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Post by blaamand on Jul 11, 2020 23:06:29 GMT
DK - I want to echo what Chris Beryllium Guy has already said. What an excellent thread! I have always found identification of the Chalons very challenging. I hope this thread will continue and cover all sorts of varieties. In particular paper types, as these are often difficult to identify going by the catalog descriptions only. I for one will certainly learn from this, and it will be most helpful whenever I come around to make DIY pages for these. Thank you!
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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 23:21:29 GMT
Within a few months of the stamps first being released to the public, it became evident that the supplies from London were not going to last very long, such was the demand (1d & 2d certainly - the 1/- not used until 1857!). 1d was the Soldiers and Sailors concessionary rate 2d was the inland rate for most provinces (Canterbury was an exception) 1/- was used for registration and heavier items (over ½ ounce etc) and new routes that required extra payment (thru' France etc). Commonly used by Solicitors (Attorneys/Lawyers) and 'official' persons sending documents thru' the mails. This is where a Mr. J. Richardson enters the frame when he undertook the first printing of postage stamps in New Zealand. The Colonial Secretary’s Office in November 1855 gave him an order to print stamps in values of one penny, two penny and one shilling in 'a quantity equal to what had been obtained from England.’ On 13 December 1855 some 29,000 one penny stamps, more than double the number ordered, had been delivered and accepted by the Colonial Treasurer. At this time Auckland was the seat of Government and Richardson must have been known as a capable printer to secure such a contract. According to the records he was the "one person in the town (Auckland) competent to print postage stamps". His printings - between November 1855 and February of 1862 - are affectionately referred to as 'Richardsons' or 'Richardson Printings'. Not a lot is known about him, although I have obtained various snippets of info, of which I am trying to compile together some form of timeline of events around him. I do not have an image of him to share unfortunately. He was a printer and stationer and seller of books & music. He advertised himself in the Auckland papers of the times - examples here below : Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 11, 2020 23:34:28 GMT
Ok - that link used to work last time I tried it (months ago) but doesnt now as it is based on search criteria. I have amended it but you will still have to navigate your way around it once in. Lots of interesting images in there (not just Chalons either). Cheers Dave Note to self : check links before publishing!! The Rhodes Collection
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 0:12:07 GMT
The next Chalons to be found in the catalogs are those printed locally by J. Richardson He didn't think too much of the provided 'Large Star' paper so obtained his own. (He did actually produce a mini-trial run of a sheet or two on the 'large star' paper but these printings are very rare). For ref. The 'Castle' front SG7So, with his dislike of the supplied paper out of the way, he first used a 'blue' paper and shortly thereafter used various white papers. (although there are reportedly various white papers used the below 2 groups are widely referred to) : These white papers are either of 2 main types : thick, soft (HM) or thin, hard (VM) paper. Blue paperThese were printed between November 1855 (the 1d) - until 1857 when Richardson started using the white papers aforementioned. 1855 (Dec.)No wmk. Imperf. Blue paper Recess printed by J. Richardson, Auckland SG4-6
SG4, SG5 & SG6Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 0:15:54 GMT
An example of the 'blue' paper showing the blue colour of the paper from the back of an SG6 - 1/- Green (on blue): (please excuse the hinge on the paper - it really should have been soaked off prior ) Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 0:44:52 GMT
White PaperThese were either on a quite thick, soft paper with a Horizontal Mesh (HM) or a thin, hard paper with a Vertical mesh (VM). These were printed between 1857-1862 by Richardson. Note: The first printings on white paper included the following values : 1d, 2d & 1/- These were extended in 1859 when a 6d value was added due to a change in postal rates to the UK. SG8, SG8a, SG9, SG10 & SG11
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 1:00:41 GMT
In 1859 the rate for a ½ ounce letter to the UK was reduced to 6d and, obviously, a demand was created for such a denomination. One enterprising Postmaster in Dunedin decided to 'create' a 6d value by cutting in half a 1/- Green (Londons & Richardsons were used). (all known are vertically cut) 1/- Green bisect on cover (note the PB Barred Numeral '18' used at Dunedin) SG6aDave
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 1:10:57 GMT
In 1859 a new plate was produced by Perkins Bacon to meet the demand for the new 6d rate. It duly arrived and was put into production immediately by the authorities. Richardson was again the printer. A few shades in this group - 4 are identified by SG but CP lists a few more : 1859No wmk. Imperf. White paper Recess printed by J. Richardson Auckland SG 12 - 15SG12, SG13, SG14 & SG15
Dave (NB Shades can be a little tricky to show on computer screens but hopefully there is a subtle difference seen here).
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Post by jimbabwe on Jul 12, 2020 1:15:47 GMT
My you have been busy Dave, nice one! I’ll dig out my SG3 this afternoon which is an excellent example of the bluing
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 1:27:32 GMT
Hey Jim.
Please do. That is what this is all about. Sharing, and discussing our hobby.
I haven't mentioned the 'overlaps' that Richardson produced. Nor the reasoning behind them. Perhaps you could cover that small period in time for us.
Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 1:35:08 GMT
Thanks Robert We should be covering re-entries a bit later on. Possibly a new thread will be created but for now we'll keep it here. I have several of my own to share and I know that others have some too Thanks for the feedback Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 1:55:16 GMT
PS Just a quick mention of Jim's and my Avatars. Jim's is an example of SG2 in pair - A 'London' print by Perkins Bacon. Mine is a very mis-perforated pair of SG79 Davies print perforated 13 in Dunedin. Just in case any of you were wondering .... Dave NB Yes - we do own these ones!
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 2:27:12 GMT
DK - I want to echo what Chris Beryllium Guy has already said. What an excellent thread! I have always found identification of the Chalons very challenging. I hope this thread will continue and cover all sorts of varieties. In particular paper types, as these are often difficult to identify going by the catalog descriptions only. I for one will certainly learn from this, and it will be most helpful whenever I come around to make DIY pages for these. Thank you! Thanks blaamand We certainly intend to cover all the bases here. There are certainly plenty of things to discuss when it comes to papers used - particularly the 'emergency' papers during the 1862-63 period and the late 1872-73 period too. Richardson used a few papers also - and manufacturers watermarks are an exciting sideline. Dave
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Post by jimbabwe on Jul 12, 2020 2:34:15 GMT
as promised, here is an example of SG3 showing the distinct bluing that occurred through a reaction (presumably) of the ink with the paper. You can usually see it in the value tablet from the front but it is most obvious when looking from the back. Note the white patches where the ink is absent... It's a slightly untidy stamp but I'm loathe to trim it as that would seem to be a shame.
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Post by jimbabwe on Jul 12, 2020 2:41:58 GMT
And further to Dave's post on SG12-15 here's my reference collection. The shades are almost more of a continuum as opposed to 4 distinct flavours, but this is my attempt at "binning" them. The other reason I keep a number of these is that I'm trying to assemble a complete selection of the numeric obliterators... more on that later. PS I must say I do like the ease of uploading images here - very straightforward.
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 3:27:22 GMT
That must be one of the most outstanding examples of the 'bluing' effect that I have ever seen. Remarkable copy. And NO, do not even dare to trim that copy. Leave that to the dealers who think that they know best!!
Lovely array of the 6d Richardsons too.
Aren't they a fantastic example of the Victorian technology of the time.
The Chestnut shades (last row in your image) show up nicely. They too have a range of shades within themselves ....
Dave
NB The PB BN '14' is of course from Nelson.
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Post by blaamand on Jul 12, 2020 8:06:09 GMT
Bravo - very useful posts guys!
Brilliant - It's quite helpful to know the mesh direction is different on the two types of paper, so it can also be used to identify the type of paper without needing to consider thickness of softness. May I ask if possible to share scans of the reverse of the horizontal mesh and vertical mesh? This will make it easier for the newbie to know exactly what to look out for.
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 21:01:17 GMT
Bravo - very useful posts guys! Brilliant - It's quite helpful to know the mesh direction is different on the two types of paper, so it can also be used to identify the type of paper without needing to consider thickness of softness. May I ask if possible to share scans of the reverse of the horizontal mesh and vertical mesh? This will make it easier for the newbie to know exactly what to look out for. Thanks blaamand Yes thats right. Although it is thought that several types of foolscap paper was used by Richardson (both blue & white papers) the white papers are commonly referred to as having 2 types : Thick, soft - with a Horizontal Mesh (HM) Thin, hard - with a Vertical Mesh (VM) These are actually easily recognisable once you have seen the two types together - side by side Mesh can be seen when the stamp 'curls' due to moisture presence (ie when you hold it in your hand and apply some breath). The thick, soft is just that - thick & soft - unlike later papers used. It has a rough feel to it and is very easily thinned. A lot of examples out there are damaged due to thinning. The other type - thin, hard is also as described - thin & hard - really noticeable when you have one of each type in front of you. There are some really nice shades of colour in this group. Very clean & crisp. It must be said here that there are always exceptions to any rule and I reproduce for you here a piece from the CP Catalog explaining things : Dave
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Post by DK on Jul 12, 2020 21:31:57 GMT
And here to illustrate the two 'major' types are a 6d on thick, soft (HM) paper and a 2d on thin, hard (VM) paper Dave
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