New Zealand: Chalons - 1855-1873

I am find the hunting for various cancellations quite refreshing, they are a minefield and I am sure I have a lot of learning to do with regard to cancellations. Here's a sample of the barred types and trying to categorise them is a headache. The six stamps have I believe 5 very different cancellations. "Stamp.5" shows characteristic's of the unallocated No.22  page 85 of Vol.I bar size and spacing without the surrounding line, mine has one more bar as well.

The green lines are just guidelines to try and get the stamp images the same size for comparison with each other.


Anyone got any similar cancellations or more knowledge on the allocations?

Here is what I hope is a SG3 London print. It has the ivory head on the reverse, and nice blueing of the border, both on front and back. 4 margins just touching on one. The face is nearly clear, but with a possible scuff mark. Possible repair in the upper right.


 

And here is a better scan of one of my possible Pelure SG86. Not a great copy, but I think this is common with the fragile Pelure paper.

Looks like 'pelure' paper to me. Will be SG86

Dave

Hi Fellas,

Sorry to jump in to your discussion, but I'd like to reassure you, Dave DK , that it is very possible and very common to acquire material first THEN become intrigued and dive in to studying an issue. For example, I enjoy purchasing entire large collections (at a tiny fraction of catalog value!) of countries that pique my interest. Once I accumulate enough material, I might dive in, purchase relevant literature, read specialist posts and start to really study a specific issue or subject. For example, I now have a rather large quantity of pricier early Finland issues, but I'm not an expert in them by any means. I am just now scratching the surface. Actually, I am highly doubtful that any collector becomes interested in ANY particular area without obtaining some first to whet one's appetite for the subject. Also - studying an issue only through scans and other people's posts isn't the same as actually holding one in your tongs. 

So, Mark, skid , congrats on finding a subject to capture your philatelic heart! Enjoy!



 

Hi Philip

It is so good that you have come out of the shadows here. Your experience and knowledge with the Chalons, and NZ issues in general, are greatly appreciated. Welcome :-)

Thanks for putting me right on the seals. The images of the unallocated cancels were immediately following the paragraph on Seals and I assumed (awful thing to do I know) that they meant unallocated Seals.
Thanks for the correction there.

Dave

That's great Mark.
Thanks for answering my inquiry. I was thinking about it after seeing your SG3 above and was just curious as to how you came about 'your' items.

Fantastic that you have so many nice pieces to share with us. I am enjoying your contributions immensely.

Cheers

Dave

I think the color outside the border on the right hand side is just the next stamp and the paper is scuffed/thinned on the edge, which makes it look unusual. The color that is seen on the back right side by the holes, is probably just the perforated paper folded over. The paper looks kind of rough an textured, has it been rebacked? (although you can still see the star watermark) or are there different paper types for the 13p? 

The CDS looks like Dunedin where the p13 was done and in December 1964. Does the K signify anything?

Odenweller on page 52 states that there are a few examples of vertical overlaps on perf 13 Davies, but I think he is referring to the provisional unwater marked paper only used for the 2d (page 112)

Note that the centering is very good for p13 (page 95)

Cutting the margins was common due to the poor perforations

PS Dave did you receive the private message I sent

Back around page 6 Andrew posted a series on the Otago obliterators which Dave added to. Theoretically the series runs from O1 to O69 during the chalon period so I've checked through mine and can add another 12 which haven't been shown. What's interesting is that between us that still leaves 33 that we haven't seen, most of which must be quite rare. Here is my contribution is a series of posts:

O8 Arrow River



O12 Taieri Ferry



O13 Waihola



O15 Glenore

Continued

O34 MacRae's




O55 Blackstone Hill




This one could be O35 or O55




O58 Upper Ferry, poor




O60 Kawarau Gorge




and last O65 or possible 63




Philip

Sorry Mark. I hadn't been alerted to a PM, so no, I hadn't seen it. But, I have responded now.

Dave

Thanks for sharing your Chalons hdm1950

Could you please put up just the ones with decipherable numbered postmarks, clearly visible, and we can tell you where they are from. Thanks

Dave

Here is what I think is SG 44 (green) SG 45 (yellow green) and SG 46 (deep green) of the Davies large star imperforate. 

Odenweller (Page 85) has yellow green, dull or deep yellow green, bronze green, olive green, and deep green. 

CP has Blueish green (SG44), Emerald green, Yellow green (SG45), Dull or deep yellow green, Bronze green, Olive green, Deep green (SG46), Dull green.

Quite confusing. Is there a color card for these shades that can be used to identify the shades and also to use with scans so people can compare since scanners might differ?