New Zealand: Chalons - 1855-1873

Here is the piece to UK I referred to above arrived London 27 May 1867 rated 6d so presumably direct British ship but via Cape of Good Hope

Pair of SG 117 Lilac 

From the NZSGB website : NZSGB Stamp Images

From September 1863, there was a composite rate on the Marseilles route of 10d per ½oz. The use of the Marseilles route ended in September 1870.



Dave

So reading the web page link you sent, most mail was trans indianOcean via Mauritius Ceylon and Suez at this time anyway,  not via the Cape as I thought. 

From Alexandria there were two routes to England 1, by British ship via Gibraltar and the Bay of Biscay or 2 on the French packet Alexandria to Marseilles then faster by train through France saving up to a week in transit .

This latter  routing from 1863 to 1870 was charged at 10d

Hi Alex

I did a search on your eBay account to find your NZ lots. Found here ==> Fitasotter eBay items

I am a bit concerned at the displayed shipping costs via the Global Shipping Program:



To the buyer, that will be a major turn off (it does me) unfortunately.

The NZ buyer will have to pay the following at your start price:

NZ$193.59    start price (if it sells for the start price)
NZ$ 77.78    shipping via the eBay Global Shipping Program
NZ$ 40.70    gst on combined selling price + shipping

NZ$312.07    at start price

I never buy when the Global Shipping Program is used - it goes against my good sense.
NB Its not the actual amount to pay as such, just the use of the Global Shipping Program and its associated extra costs + gst on top of that (unnecessary in my mind)


Now, if the shipping price were the actual cost of postage - say 8 pounds - then that would make much more sense to me.

Anyway, good luck with the sale.


Dave

Dave , and others.  Be assured  I never ever use GlobalShipping Rip off——- it has suddenly appeared in listings since eBay revamped their selling lay out .  I fully understand your concern and dislike . 

it has appeared by default and I was unable to remove the so called option .   Mailing will be at regular overseas rate. Tracked is indeed around £8 , regular postage if you are prepared for risk only £2 


P.s. I never noticed the default usage, it doesn’t show of course on the UK site until an overseas buyer makes a purchase , however think I have managed to delete Global. And made Royal Mail the option of choice had to revise all 11 lots one by one, but will pay more attention from now on .   Alex 
 

Well Dave, that is bloody eBay for you . I list and mail World Wide !

I always thought , those years in Samoa that NZ was out of this world ……..🤭🤭😀😀😀

A couple more to show that have just come in recently :

An SG136 6d blue & a SG125 1/- yellow-green

The 6d blue is shown purely on its merits of being extremely well centered for these - with margins all round! Hard to get like this (perfs aside).

and

The 1/- yellow-green is from our new member blackcap , Arend. Funnily enough, after buying this item on Trademe, Arend joined this board.
The item is shown here as it is a very large example, with perforation issues.





Dave

Another one recently received in was this one:

SG81/82
1862/63 2d blue Davies on 'pelure' paper

It was amongst a batch of chalons (from a poor image) that didnt look that great to be fair.
I was pleasantly surprised when I received it as it is in fairly good nick.





Dave

A nice example of the '070' duplex of Wellington Mark.

Yes, those perfs are partially cut/separated both top & bottom. I am not sure if you saw the bottom ones were split similarly as the top ones!



Dave

Thinking about the p13 Davies 6d shades SG 75 black brown, SG 76 brown & SG 77 red brown, here they are :






Dave

It is certainly a lovely 'looker' from the front Arend.

I can see parts of a 'large star' wmk on the back so that answers the watermark question.

Now to the back scan.

The most obvious couple of points seen are:

An added left (from the front, right from the rear) margin. You can see down the entire edge a lighter colored paper.
Also several filled in thins which explains why the wmk is harder to see.

Apart from that it is a very nice example of the 1871 1d brown 'Provisional' (I don't like the word accidental as nothing accidental about it) imperf.
The PB BN is of Timaru BTW

Good luck with your application for the RPSNZ.



Dave

Not at all.

I was just commenting on what I saw in the supplied picture.

It also depends on how it was described to you and what you paid for it.
Did it come in a collection of Chalons? They would have probably described the lot as in 'mixed' condition - meaning some good ones some with faults etc.

The margins are really huge and would/should get a clean cert but they will mention any faults they see with it too.

Up to you whether you feel it is worth getting a cert. It is your money after all :-)

Did you say that there was another 'Provisional imperf' in that lot? Perhaps you could show us that one as well.


All the best


Dave


NB I say 'Provisional Imperf' as these imperfs were only issued as imperf at times when they were having problems with the perforating machine. That happened regularly apparantly.
They were deliberately issued imperf on those occasions, so nothing 'Accidental' about it.

Here are the 'new color' Chalons imperf.

Are the margins sufficient? Maybe/maybe not ! They certainly look nice though ....

No certs for these so up to the buyer to make up their own minds.





Dave

SG117a Provisional Imperf 3d lilac



SG118a Provisional Imperf 3d mauve





Dave