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Post by nbstamper on Mar 6, 2023 17:09:57 GMT
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Post by DK on Mar 7, 2023 2:11:00 GMT
Very nice nbstamperWhat SG or Scott number is this one please? Dave |
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Post by nbstamper on Mar 7, 2023 2:41:31 GMT
CP A2d/SG38 - I have other copies but this one is nicer than the others.
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Post by DK on Mar 7, 2023 7:51:21 GMT
SG38 !
Hmmmm - I didnt comment on my thoughts about its SG number as the picture is (I assume) take by a phone camera?!
The plate wear is not noticeable and therefore not in the SG38 range of shades & wear I would have thought, and the shade I see would seem to fit better, if a pale or milky blue SG37a.
From the picture you show us the print quality looks like a 'Davies', so possible SG37a but then the shade to me seems to be closer to a 'London' SG2.
Does it have the large star wmk? Is there any evidence of blueing on the rear?
Do you own a scanner and are able to produce good front and rear scans for us. It certainly looks better than a common old SG38 :-)
Come on, lets improve on SG38 as it looks from the picture uploaded to be better than that.
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Post by nbstamper on Mar 10, 2023 14:07:28 GMT
DK Found time to check the 2d stamp - it has the large star wmk. Although the paper has a slight blue tinge to it; if I compare it to my known copy of A2b, the paper looks much whiter. I don't notice any plate wear, but you would know better than me. It would be nice if it were A2a, but I rather think it is as I originally described. Any further thoughts? By the way, once was not enough on the 6d black-brown; bought another one. It has a small thin along the left edge (less expensive price), but the front looks so good, couldn't resist.  |
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Post by DK on Mar 10, 2023 18:44:42 GMT
That SG41 6d black-brown looks great too :-) Well done! You are getting some nice items there nbstamperNB I will stick with my choice of SG37a Milky Blue for that very nice 2d above. Keep 'em coming Dave |
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Post by gc on Mar 10, 2023 23:34:03 GMT
Nice stamps Dave and nbstamper I have a couple of quirky ones. The first is what I think is an SG132 Red Brown( CP A1q (1) Y with a printing flaw through the "W" of NEW Note I don't believe it is a "mixed" perf as it doesn't have two perf varieties "side by side", I consider this to be a "compound" perf ( reperfed perf 10 at the top ) The second is a SG138 Vermilion with a printing flaw. Possibly a piece of fibre or hair has landed on the plate prior to printing. For some reason the scan ( at 600 dpi ) makes it hard to see. It runs through the Queens crown and down through her nose. Enjoy   |
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Post by DK on Mar 11, 2023 0:47:44 GMT
Nice transient flaws there Grant.
Yes, that 1d brown is an irregular compound perf SG128a
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Post by DK on Mar 11, 2023 0:53:46 GMT
This just in! This is @nbstampers SG37a - nice it is too! Here are a couple of varieties of this stamp - SG51 roulette 7 (top margin only) and 2x p13 SG72a
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Post by DK on Mar 11, 2023 1:02:01 GMT
And you don't have to have a lot of money to get into buying nice Chalons - this nicely centered 6d red brown came in a fairly modest lot recently. Nothing too glamorous about it really - but for these it is quite well centered and it has a nicely struck CDS, part of the 070 duplex of Wellington. SG122 6d Red brown p12½  Dave |
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Post by gc on Mar 11, 2023 2:23:59 GMT
Nice transient flaws there Grant. Yes, that 1d brown is an irregular compound perf SG128a Dave Hi Dave How do you distinguish between an SG128a compound perf and an SG132a compound perf if both are intermediate plate wear. Always a quandary. You may also have a hair flaw ( above the CDS on you 6d ) Grant |
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Post by DK on Mar 13, 2023 23:14:59 GMT
How do you distinguish between an SG128a compound perf and an SG132a compound perf if both are intermediate plate wear. Always a quandary. If 2 stamps look identical in 'all respects' then you can't! BUT, the catalogues, SG and CP, both only note 1 listing for this kind of stamp : SG lists SG128a - under the p10x12½ listings - as "a) Perf. 12½ comp 10 (1 side) and CP lists it in the section 1d Brown, Type A1 - as " A1p (y) Irregular compound perfs" NB: Mixed perfs require 2 rows of different gauges on the same side. So, your pictured stamp is irregular compound perf AND the catalogues list that for the p10x12½ example, not the p12½ one. You may also have a hair flaw ( above the CDS on you 6d ) I will take another look at this tonite as it may be on the black mount not the stamp! TBC :-) Dave |
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Post by DK on Mar 14, 2023 7:18:41 GMT
You may also have a hair flaw above the CDS on you 6d I will take another look at this tonite as it may be on the black mount not the stamp! TBC :-) I have taken another look and rescanned it in a different black mount. Conclusion: no hair flaw It must have been a flaw in the mount :-)   Dave |
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Post by DK on Mar 15, 2023 4:03:57 GMT
So after over 3mths in the mail from the UK (£9 tracked service - not worth it!!) a piece of mail I'd given up on finally arrived :-) Not a great lot of Chalons really, pretty rubbish really, but a couple of standouts amongst the dross : An SG90 1862-64 Davies 'Pelure' paper p13 cat £4500 !! Its not perfect, but I ain't complaining lol  And a curio item, 'monster' margins for these - Bob Odenweller thinks that these monsters are worth more than the 'provisional' imperf ones !! SG130a 'retouched' Davies p10x12½ cat £75.00 +++  Dave |
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Post by DK on Mar 15, 2023 4:16:30 GMT
And as a bit of fun :  Would this pass muster as a 'provisional' imperf gc ? Note: Faked using 'MS Paint' of course :-) Dave |
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Post by DK on Mar 15, 2023 8:16:56 GMT
I was just having a look at The Complete Stamp Company website before going to bed and saw this for sale on there. Real eye-candy - a steal at NZ$3750 The Complete Stamp Company - Chalons 348384 - Full Face Queens - Accumalations - NZ QV Chalon Full Face Queen hand picked premium set of both Imperfs & Perforated example, 6 imperfs & 11 perforated values, all hand picked for visual appeal, all perforated have genuine circular dated datestamps, imperfs X 5 are dated with circular datestamps & are all 4 margins, 4d yellow has tiny paper scuff on back to be accurate, premium set that would grace any collection, would be hard to build a better set today. Price $3,750.00 NZD EDIT: I just noted that the 1/- imperf (the last stamp) is not CDS but a PB Barred Numeral datestamp !! Dave |
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Post by gc on Mar 18, 2023 23:44:06 GMT
How do you distinguish between an SG128a compound perf and an SG132a compound perf if both are intermediate plate wear. Always a quandary. If 2 stamps look identical in 'all respects' then you can't! BUT, the catalogues, SG and CP, both only note 1 listing for this kind of stamp : SG lists SG128a - under the p10x12½ listings - as "a) Perf. 12½ comp 10 (1 side) and CP lists it in the section 1d Brown, Type A1 - as " A1p (y) Irregular compound perfs" NB: Mixed perfs require 2 rows of different gauges on the same side. So, your pictured stamp is irregular compound perf AND the catalogues list that for the p10x12½ example, not the p12½ one. Hi Dave Yes it is difficult when different people / firms use different classifications. I note Auckland City Stamps catalogued this block as CP A1q(3) So they classed it as SG132a, but missed the fact it had perf 10 through the middle. Cheers Grant You may also have a hair flaw ( above the CDS on you 6d ) I will take another look at this tonite as it may be on the black mount not the stamp! TBC :-) Dave  |
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Post by DK on Mar 19, 2023 0:50:36 GMT
Lovely block Grant, is it yours now? :-)
Agreed, that ACS got it wrong.
in my old CP Catalog CP A1q(3) is a p12½ Brown stamp - not irregular compound p10x12½!
There is only 1 irregular compound p10x12½ for the One Penny Brown and that is SG128a or CP A1p(z).
So Auckland City Stamps are wrong :-) not often we can say that, but it proves they are as human as us, eh Grant?
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Post by DK on Mar 19, 2023 0:52:46 GMT
oh, and BTW, that stamp - SG128a or CP A1p(z) is cat at £850ea mint, so a very nice and expensive block.
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Post by gc on Mar 19, 2023 1:57:18 GMT
Thanks Dave
Yes it is mine and sits beautifully on my exhibition page. Note that this block is in Odenweller book ( page 164 ).
Regards Grant
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Post by DK on Mar 20, 2023 7:26:18 GMT
Yes, I saw that Grant. A lovely block for sure.
I look forward to one day seeing your exhibition pages in person :-)
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Post by DK on Mar 20, 2023 7:38:20 GMT
Just had another small lot come in today. A couple worth showing, what I believe is an SG9 and an SG96  The 'Richardson' print is absolutely lovely, margins wise, postmark wise - general condition wise. A pleasurable copy to look at :-) The 'Davies' SG96 - Provisional printing on thick white paper is also very nice, especially considering that it was a total surprise to me when I saw its back! :-) Dave |
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Post by DK on Mar 23, 2023 2:28:51 GMT
A few more recent arrivals :-) Nothing too impressive really, but the 'double perf' 6d blue was a surprise! I hadnt seen that in the listing pictures beforehand .... 1) SG 111 p12½ Davies - with an Otago provincial postmark 019 of Balclutha 2) SG 126 p10 Davies 1d brown 3) SG 132 p12½ 1d red-brown - nice postmark off the face ! 4) SG 137 p12½ Davies - very worn plate  5) SG 134 p12½ Davies - PB '11' of Ahuriri (present day Napier) 6) SG 134 p12½ Davies - Otago obliterator 'O' with an unknown (currently) manuscript 7) SG 136 p12½ Davies - with an Otago provincial postmark 014 of Tokamairiro (Milton) 8) SG 136 p12½ Davies - with a row of ' double perfs' at top  Dave |
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Post by stanley64 on Mar 23, 2023 9:02:44 GMT
Thanks for the showing gents :-) I never tire of looking through this thread and the philatelic gems it showcase and that block, with its compound perf, shared earlier in the thread, is stellar.
At the same time, I will echo Dave's( DK ) interest in see Grant's( gc ) exhibition in-person and would welcome the opportunity for such a viewing...
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Post by skid on Mar 24, 2023 2:01:16 GMT
Hi everyone, Here is what looks like a very oxidized imperf 1d star watermark, which I assume is SG 33-35. I included a non oxidized example in the scan for comparison.   |
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Post by gc on Mar 24, 2023 6:00:03 GMT
A few more recent arrivals :-) Nothing too impressive really, but the 'double perf' 6d blue was a surprise! I hadnt seen that in the listing pictures beforehand .... 1) SG 111 p12½ Davies - with an Otago provincial postmark 019 of Balclutha 2) SG 126 p10 Davies 1d brown 3) SG 132 p12½ 1d red-brown - nice postmark off the face ! 4) SG 137 p12½ Davies - very worn plate 5) SG 134 p12½ Davies - PB '11' of Ahuriri (present day Napier) 6) SG 134 p12½ Davies - Otago obliterator 'O' with an unknown (currently) manuscript 7) SG 136 p12½ Davies - with an Otago provincial postmark 014 of Tokamairiro (Milton) 8) SG 136 p12½ Davies - with a row of ' double perfs' at top Dave Great items Dave, my favourite is the 6d with "014" GRant |
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Post by gc on Mar 24, 2023 6:12:15 GMT
I thought the readers might like to see some genuine serrated stamps. These are my pride and joy. SG60 2d Serrate 16 SG62 3d serrate 16 SG63 6d serrate 16 and Re entry Row 17 No 10 Enjoy    |
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Post by DK on Mar 24, 2023 6:41:45 GMT
Here is what looks like a very oxidized imperf 1d star watermark, which I assume is SG 33-35. I included a non oxidized example in the scan for comparison Nice items Mark. Are you proposing to give the 1d that is heavily oxidized a bath? My pick is that it will turn out to be SG33 or SG34 - Orange to Orange Vermillion - these colors are usually the ones to oxidize like yours above. Even that SG35 Carmine vermillion could do with a wee bath in HP3% too. Thanks for the contribution :-) Dave |
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Post by DK on Mar 24, 2023 6:44:13 GMT
I thought the readers might like to see some genuine serrated stamps. These are my pride and joy. Wow Grant these are beautiful. That 3d brown lilac in mint condition is not only beautiful - but - very rare too. Fantastic stamp. How long has it taken you to put those 3 together? Dave |
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Post by DK on Mar 24, 2023 6:48:13 GMT
Thanks for the showing gents :-) I never tire of looking through this thread and the philatelic gems it showcase and that block, with its compound perf, shared earlier in the thread, is stellar.
At the same time, I will echo Dave's( DK ) interest in see Grant's( gc ) exhibition in-person and would welcome the opportunity for such a viewing...
Have fun and happy collecting! Thanks also to you as well stanley64Nice words, appreciated :-) Yes, gc - Grant - has a world class collection, and a magnificent exhibition exhibit. It will be well worth seeing in person. Grant, will you and your exhibit be at the Auckland FIAP Show in May this year? Dave |
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