neilmac
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Post by neilmac on Mar 29, 2024 1:06:20 GMT
Actually Dave, there is a '10' on trade at the moment.
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DK
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Post by DK on Mar 29, 2024 1:41:28 GMT
Hey Neil
Do you mean you have a '10' to trade or there is one on 'Trademe' currently.
PM me with details.
Dave
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gc
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Post by gc on Mar 29, 2024 20:14:27 GMT
I have about 7 - 8 SG2's so will see what I have there. Looking at your SG2 with a 9 or a 3 oblit. It depends on the orientation of the stamp as to what you may see for the PB number : This way you see a '3':  and this way a '9':  but, of course, it is a '9'. Dave Hi Dave My gut feeling is a 9 However a beautiful well balanced stamp. Look great in any collection cheers Grant |
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neilmac
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Thanks for having me - glad to be here. Looking forward to learning more in 2024! Cheers!
Posts: 242
What I collect: NZ - especially FFQ, Pigeongrams and Postage Dues
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Post by neilmac on Mar 30, 2024 1:55:29 GMT
Hey Neil Do you mean you have a '10' to trade or there is one on 'Trademe' currently. PM me with details. Dave There is one on trademe (which this programme self corrects to Trade I just realised) and I think I have one somewhere too. |
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neilmac
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Thanks for having me - glad to be here. Looking forward to learning more in 2024! Cheers!
Posts: 242
What I collect: NZ - especially FFQ, Pigeongrams and Postage Dues
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Post by neilmac on Mar 30, 2024 21:17:04 GMT
A recent addition to the collection. I looked at this a long time before acquiecing and paying the money. A fascinating piece showing the plate wear and retouches aplenty. Really nice to see a block such as this up close. I also have a Hausberg block but only two bottom rows, but still great to compare.   |
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skid
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What I collect: NZ Chalons, 1800's NZ, Thames Valley NZ, and other interesting NZ stamps
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Post by skid on Mar 30, 2024 21:51:42 GMT
Nice, I was looking at the 2d block for a while to complement my reprints to be part of a future exhibit, but could not convince myself that the price was worth it. Congratulations on getting it.
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neilmac
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Thanks for having me - glad to be here. Looking forward to learning more in 2024! Cheers!
Posts: 242
What I collect: NZ - especially FFQ, Pigeongrams and Postage Dues
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Post by neilmac on Mar 30, 2024 22:16:25 GMT
Nice, I was looking at the 2d block for a while to complement my reprints to be part of a future exhibit, but could not convince myself that the price was worth it. Congratulations on getting it. Yeah, it took me a while to get my head around it. Glad I did in the end, but there's always the opportunity cost of what else could I have bought instead. |
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gc
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Post by gc on Mar 31, 2024 3:47:21 GMT
One of the Stafford correspondence covers from the auction. SG4 1d red on blue paper on cover. Magnificent piece. Complete with Christie's Robson Lowe opinion.   Hi Neil I wonder why the stamp has been excised on the certificate scan. certainly a rare item cheers Grant |
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Post by gc on Mar 31, 2024 3:48:26 GMT
A recent addition to the collection. I looked at this a long time before acquiecing and paying the money. A fascinating piece showing the plate wear and retouches aplenty. Really nice to see a block such as this up close. I also have a Hausberg block but only two bottom rows, but still great to compare. Stunning block Theres not too many large blocks around any more. Grant |
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neilmac
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Thanks for having me - glad to be here. Looking forward to learning more in 2024! Cheers!
Posts: 242
What I collect: NZ - especially FFQ, Pigeongrams and Postage Dues
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Post by neilmac on Mar 31, 2024 20:58:45 GMT
One of the Stafford correspondence covers from the auction. SG4 1d red on blue paper on cover. Magnificent piece. Complete with Christie's Robson Lowe opinion. Hi Neil I wonder why the stamp has been excised on the certificate scan. certainly a rare item cheers Grant I'm not Sure it is excised, just a dark shadow which didn't illuminate the image maybe? |
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neilmac
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Thanks for having me - glad to be here. Looking forward to learning more in 2024! Cheers!
Posts: 242
What I collect: NZ - especially FFQ, Pigeongrams and Postage Dues
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Post by neilmac on Mar 31, 2024 21:02:10 GMT
A recent addition to the collection. I looked at this a long time before acquiecing and paying the money. A fascinating piece showing the plate wear and retouches aplenty. Really nice to see a block such as this up close. I also have a Hausberg block but only two bottom rows, but still great to compare. Stunning block Theres not too many large blocks around any more. Grant I'm aware of a block of 80 of this same stamp. I might have an image somewhere actually. Yes - here it is. 84 stamp block.  Block description from Hackney auction Part One. 2d. vermilion block of eighty-four (12x7), being the complete lower seven rows of the sheet with full sheet margins, showing all thirty-six stamps which were inadvertently damaged and retouched, fresh bright color with the resultant damaged positions giving the appearance of being under-inked, virtually full original gum; brown gum spotting and one horizontal row with crease, however a very rare and impressive showpiece multiple. Sc. 48; S.G. 138, 138a, £13,920+. provenance: Maurice Burrus, July 1963 Note: After the replacement of the worn 2d. Plate I in 1865, Plate II was inadvertently damaged, possibly caused by overheating of the lower half of the plate during the printing operation. Some 36 impressions were retouched by James Macgregor Lloyd, a skilled engraver, in 1867. Though a large number remained untreated and many retouches were executed, printings were made from the damaged plate both before and after retouching |
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skid
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What I collect: NZ Chalons, 1800's NZ, Thames Valley NZ, and other interesting NZ stamps
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Post by skid on Apr 2, 2024 5:16:34 GMT
Anyone know what happened to andrewsnzstamps.com? Andrew had a great collection including the reprints and proofs and posted it all on his website.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Apr 2, 2024 7:22:01 GMT
Anyone know what happened to andrewsnzstamps.com? Andrew had a great collection including the reprints and proofs and posted it all on his website.  |
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gc
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Post by gc on Apr 2, 2024 7:56:44 GMT
Stunning block Theres not too many large blocks around any more. Grant I'm aware of a block of 80 of this same stamp. I might have an image somewhere actually. Yes - here it is. 84 stamp block. Block description from Hackney auction Part One. 2d. vermilion block of eighty-four (12x7), being the complete lower seven rows of the sheet with full sheet margins, showing all thirty-six stamps which were inadvertently damaged and retouched, fresh bright color with the resultant damaged positions giving the appearance of being under-inked, virtually full original gum; brown gum spotting and one horizontal row with crease, however a very rare and impressive showpiece multiple. Sc. 48; S.G. 138, 138a, £13,920+. provenance: Maurice Burrus, July 1963 Note: After the replacement of the worn 2d. Plate I in 1865, Plate II was inadvertently damaged, possibly caused by overheating of the lower half of the plate during the printing operation. Some 36 impressions were retouched by James Macgregor Lloyd, a skilled engraver, in 1867. Though a large number remained untreated and many retouches were executed, printings were made from the damaged plate both before and after retouching I will try and find an image in an old catalogue of another large bottom block. I do have a block from the top of the sheet. And know the owner of the large block shown above ( they want to remain anonymous ). Cheers Grant   |
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skid
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What I collect: NZ Chalons, 1800's NZ, Thames Valley NZ, and other interesting NZ stamps
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Post by skid on Apr 2, 2024 15:14:14 GMT
Don't forget about the almost complete full sheet at Te Papa |
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skid
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What I collect: NZ Chalons, 1800's NZ, Thames Valley NZ, and other interesting NZ stamps
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Post by skid on Apr 2, 2024 15:19:02 GMT
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DK
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Post by DK on Apr 2, 2024 18:41:14 GMT
Yes that is a good source of info on past sales, for sure.
Dave
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Post by redkiwi on Apr 4, 2024 10:12:59 GMT
I have a 3d imperf that I think may be an example of A3d (T) given the fairly large margins on the vertical sides and the Christchurch cancel. I'd be interested in other's views. I note that there are perhaps signs of trimmed perfs on the close top margin; I don't know if that affects the identification? Second question: assuming that it is an A3d (T) - CV $1500 - is it worth getting a RPSNZ certificate? I know this is a personal preference that collectors differ on, but I'd be interested to hear other's opinions. Some further info - I paid 22 Euro for it, and there are no thins or other signs of damage that I can see. |
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Post by gc on Apr 4, 2024 17:02:59 GMT
I have a 3d imperf that I think may be an example of A3d (T) given the fairly large margins on the vertical sides and the Christchurch cancel. I'd be interested in other's views. I note that there are perhaps signs of trimmed perfs on the close top margin; I don't know if that affects the identification? Second question: assuming that it is an A3d (T) - CV $1500 - is it worth getting a RPSNZ certificate? I know this is a personal preference that collectors differ on, but I'd be interested to hear other's opinions. Some further info - I paid 22 Euro for it, and there are no thins or other signs of damage that I can see. At a glance I would say yes it's a A3d (T). Colour / shade fits and also "C" cancellation. However, I believe the RPSNZ have new guidelines for giving certificates on these. So, you wouldn't get a definitive YES. If it was mine, I would not get it certified. Cheers Grant |
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Post by redkiwi on Apr 4, 2024 17:38:17 GMT
I have a 3d imperf that I think may be an example of A3d (T) given the fairly large margins on the vertical sides and the Christchurch cancel. I'd be interested in other's views. I note that there are perhaps signs of trimmed perfs on the close top margin; I don't know if that affects the identification? Second question: assuming that it is an A3d (T) - CV $1500 - is it worth getting a RPSNZ certificate? I know this is a personal preference that collectors differ on, but I'd be interested to hear other's opinions. Some further info - I paid 22 Euro for it, and there are no thins or other signs of damage that I can see.
At a glance I would say yes it's a A3d (T). Colour / shade fits and also "C" cancellation. However, I believe the RPSNZ have new guidelines for giving certificates on these. So, you wouldn't get a definitive YES. If it was mine, I would not get it certified. Cheers Grant Very helpful. Thank you, Grant. RK |
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DK
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Post by DK on Apr 5, 2024 6:35:05 GMT
I have a 3d imperf that I think may be an example of A3d (T) given the fairly large margins on the vertical sides and the Christchurch cancel. I'd be interested in other's views. I note that there are perhaps signs of trimmed perfs on the close top margin; I don't know if that affects the identification? Second question: assuming that it is an A3d (T) - CV $1500 - is it worth getting a RPSNZ certificate? I know this is a personal preference that collectors differ on, but I'd be interested to hear other's opinions. Some further info - I paid 22 Euro for it, and there are no thins or other signs of damage that I can see. I will echo gc's sentiments and agree it does look ok, shame if being picky about the small top margin, but as Grant says, looks ok at first glance. Dave |
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DK
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Post by DK on Apr 5, 2024 6:44:07 GMT
I have been in Auckland this past week, so just got home to find my winnings from Mowbrays Sale #44 waiting here :-) Over the next couple of days I will scan in some of the better ones. There were over a hundred Chalons in the lot so a few nice items amongst them! First, a quite nice & respectable SG119 4d Rose mint (they described it as 'regummed')! How do you feel about a mint stamp being 'regummed'? Does it put you off it? Unused are perfectly acceptable so it could be soaked I guess, not that I am going to do that! SG119 Mint:  Dave |
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DK
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Post by DK on Apr 5, 2024 6:47:59 GMT
SG139 & SG138 Mint No wmk. p12½  Dave
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Post by redkiwi on Apr 5, 2024 6:49:20 GMT
I have been in Auckland this past week, so just got home to find my winnings from Mowbrays Sale #44 waiting here :-) Over the next couple of days I will scan in some of the better ones. There were over a hundred Chalons in the lot so a few nice items amongst them! First, a quite nice & respectable SG119 4d Rose mint (they described it as 'regummed')! How do you feel about a mint stamp being 'regummed'? Does it put you off it? Unused are perfectly acceptable so it could be soaked I guess, not that I am going to do that! SG119 Mint: Dave Nice looking stamp, and lovely shade. I have a FSF that I think is likely regummed. Doesn't bother me much as it's a good looking example. |
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DK
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Post by DK on Apr 5, 2024 6:54:24 GMT
A couple of mint SG117 3d lilac mint. A small amount of ageing evident but not too bad.  There is also a mint SG114, but I had to soak it off the page it was attached to as it was stuck down pretty well. It is currently drying! Dave |
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DK
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Post by DK on Apr 5, 2024 6:58:14 GMT
I will do some of the used ones in the lot tomorrow as I need to soak them all to get rid of 'all the gook & gunk' & old hinges off most of them. There are some nice items amongst them, none super rare tho'  Dave |
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skid
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What I collect: NZ Chalons, 1800's NZ, Thames Valley NZ, and other interesting NZ stamps
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Post by skid on Apr 5, 2024 18:38:00 GMT
This might help you decide if the margins are large enough on the sides to eliminate any cutting down. I would personally say there are several stamps that look like they could have been cut down to the stamp you have.  |
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Post by gc on Apr 5, 2024 20:53:57 GMT
I have been in Auckland this past week, so just got home to find my winnings from Mowbrays Sale #44 waiting here :-) Over the next couple of days I will scan in some of the better ones. There were over a hundred Chalons in the lot so a few nice items amongst them! First, a quite nice & respectable SG119 4d Rose mint (they described it as 'regummed')! How do you feel about a mint stamp being 'regummed'? Does it put you off it? Unused are perfectly acceptable so it could be soaked I guess, not that I am going to do that! SG119 Mint: Dave Nice looking stamp, and lovely shade. I have a FSF that I think is likely regummed. Doesn't bother me much as it's a good looking example. Hi Dave I don't mind at all having Mint Chalons with no gum. I would soak it off, however as you know some unscrupulous peolpe have added gum in the past to hide tiny thins / pin holes. Cheers Grant |
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Post by gc on Apr 5, 2024 20:55:14 GMT
This might help you decide if the margins are large enough on the sides to eliminate any cutting down. I would personally say there are several stamps that look like they could have been cut down to the stamp you have. Hi Mark Just checking what this post / mage relates to. Cheers Grant |
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DK
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Post by DK on Apr 5, 2024 23:55:06 GMT
Mark was referencing Klem's 3d mauve 'Provisional imperf' above - in relation as to the possibility of it being a trimmed perfed example.
You and I both feel it is probably legit - although you never know for sure, unless the margins are so large, or it is still on the original cover.
Dave
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