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Post by sarah on Oct 3, 2023 18:17:52 GMT
Great stuff; thanks for sharing sarah :-) I have registered for Mr. Mould's talk, 'Facing the Queen' and had a look at some of the other presentations offered by Gresham College; there are a number of other offerings of interest as well. Have fun and happy collecting! P.S. It is nice to see you back on TSF Unfortunately Mr Mould's talk was not as accurate as it could have been. I know of 2 artist's who have appealed the information that was said in the talk. I was heartbroken that the information was factually incorrect when he had been given the correct information. Unfortunately, one artist has now sadly passed away but his estate has been able to get it changed. The other is still in the process of getting his changed. This is where things get misinterpreted with history and time and is so important that they are factually correct. |
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Post by sarah on Oct 3, 2023 18:39:41 GMT
I am going to go slowly and try and chronically give you a time line of Dorothy Wilding's stamps. Chris has kindly agreed to help me to put it in a more brief format in a way that is presented better as an actual stamp article. I really hope that you will enjoy this look back from 1937 to 2023. (Yes I have found Dorothy Wilding stamps in 2023!) I will add links so that you are able to see the history and where it has come from. We will start with what I think is the very first Dorothy Wilding Stamp of the Royal Family. I would love to be proved wrong so please if anyone can add anything please do. I think the v first stamp was in 1937. It was used to celebrate the coronation. The designer was the great Edmund Dulac. www.postalmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Stamp-History-1937-King-George-VI-Coronation.pdfThe above link gives all the details of how the stamp was developed I am lucky to own the very original coloured portrait that this stamp was made from. (There are no other original copies I can find in any of the large museums) To incorporate portraits of Their Majesties The King and Queen in a decorative design of a relatively simple character. The crown which is particularly emphasised is of conventional design and is interlaced underneath with the initials of Their Majesties. The orb is included in the left border and the Ampulla - the vessel holding the holy oil used during the Coronation ceremony - in the right border. The design is intended to convey a feeling of festivity; the intertwined white lines on the sides suggesting garlands and the device in the shape of Maltese crosses in the top corners suggesting Union Jacks |
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Post by sarah on Oct 3, 2023 18:42:27 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 3, 2023 18:50:45 GMT
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Post by madbaker on Oct 3, 2023 19:08:13 GMT
These are fascinating photos and paintings, Sarah. Sorry if this is too tangential, but these photos get me thinking about how people are represented, and possibly altered, in the images that are shared with the world.
With all the talk of 'deep fakes' and AI these days, it helps to be reminded that it's always been thus. We are posed, shifted, manipulated, and so on. Anything from 'show my good side' to "take that blemish out."
This came to mind especially looking at the painting labelled 126 (the number on the wall, under the painting). The Queen looks impossibly thin in that painting. And by the time she appears on a stamp, (or the painting #124) she's half a head taller as well.
It's a privilege to be able to look at these examples up close and side by side. Thanks for doing the work to capture and post these images. 💖
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Post by sarah on Oct 3, 2023 19:25:22 GMT
These are fascinating photos and paintings, Sarah. Sorry if this is too tangential, but these photos get me thinking about how people are represented, and possibly altered, in the images that are shared with the world. With all the talk of 'deep fakes' and AI these days, it helps to be reminded that it's always been thus. We are posed, shifted, manipulated, and so on. Anything from 'show my good side' to "take that blemish out." This came to mind especially looking at the painting labelled 126 (the number on the wall, under the painting). The Queen looks impossibly thin in that painting. And by the time she appears on a stamp, (or the painting #124) she's half a head taller as well. It's a privilege to be able to look at these examples up close and side by side. Thanks for doing the work to capture and post these images. 💖 I have loved hearing this. I have thought exactly the same with many of the photographs that have been taken over the years. Remember, Dorothy Wilding employed a number of colourists and re touchers to make the photographs "perfect" We forget it has been going on for years! The numbering of the portraits has been done by me for the exhibition. I have had to write about each of the portraits separately. With new regulations and accessibility they are no longer allowed to put details next to the pictures like they did before as it can be seen as not being accessible for people who have difficulty reading. I am hoping that if I ever get the technical ability I might be able to do some Barcode links. Details that I did not say originally. Dorothy Wilding was invited to the Queen's room to help chose the outfit that she is wearing in the photograph . The King was not originally in the photographs. Whilst photographing the Queen, the King came in and Dorothy said to the King (against protocol!) This is a quote from her autobiography "I smiled at the King and said "Your Majesty don't you think the Queen looks rather lonely standing there without you - if you joined her I could make such a lovely portrait of you both" She was awarded the Royal Warrant. She was the first female photographer to get that honour. |
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Post by sarah on Oct 4, 2023 19:57:00 GMT
Day 2 Dorothy Wilding We move to 1944 and the New Zealand Health Stamp This is the first stamp I can find with Princess Elizabeth as a stamp from a portrait by Dorothy Wilding. There is a slight possibility that the 1943 New Zealand Health Stamp was done by Dorothy as well. However, I think it is more likely to have been done by Marcus Adams. Again if anyone knows better please say. I think 1943 is more likely Marcus Adams but cannot find strong evidence either way apart from dates of photographs. The 1944 was definitely Dorothy Wilding but the actual photographs were taken in 1943 The Royal Collection Trust has more details www.rct.uk/collection/2999898/hm-queen-elizabeth-ii-b-1926-when-princess-in-the-uniform-of-a-sea-ranger-1943Princess Elizabeth was in her Sea Ranger uniform This link gives more details about the actual stamp itself. collectables.nzpost.co.nz/1944-health/I am trying to take my time to show the details and information I go into when I am researching a particular stamp. I appreciate it is not quite the way stamp people show items but I hope it appeals to the informative side of stamp collecting that you are learning more about each stamp. Please tell me if it is too much detail. |
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Post by sarah on Oct 4, 2023 19:58:36 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 5, 2023 8:43:42 GMT
Day 3 of our trip through Dorothy Wilding
This is a slightly larger post as I have covered 1947 and 1948 - A busy 2 years for Dorothy Wilding stamps
Dorothy Wilding portraits were used to celebrate the Royal Family tour to South Africa in 1947. It was also the year that Princess Elizabeth turned 21 and the year Princess Elizabeth got married.
The UK did not produce any stamps to celebrate the birthday or wedding of Princess Elizabeth just doing a stamp mark for the wedding with bells.
1948 was the year that King George V1 and Queen Elizabeth celebrated their 25th Wedding anniversary.
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Post by sarah on Oct 5, 2023 8:48:00 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 5, 2023 8:51:38 GMT
The different Dorothy Wilding portraits celebrating the 1947 tour. Photographs of the whole family.   |
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Post by sarah on Oct 5, 2023 8:59:58 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 5, 2023 9:03:07 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 5, 2023 9:06:22 GMT
1948 silver wedding anniversary and cinderella stamp sheet showing the stamp at stampex 1962 The stampex sheet also shows Dorothy Wilding Portraits of the Queen taken from 1952 coronation portraits.   |
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Post by sarah on Oct 5, 2023 9:12:28 GMT
Last set of pictures for this time period. Now I have found a stamp cover from 2002 which shows one of the portraits taken from the same photoshoot so tried to make it stamp related. The actual portrait was never made into a stamp. This is my very favourite portrait of Princess Elizabeth by Dorothy Wilding. I own this as the original bought direct from the Illustrated London News. Have shown before on the site but thought worth sharing again. This portrait is from 1946 and is just stunning.   |
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Post by sarah on Oct 5, 2023 12:21:41 GMT
What I meant to say I did go on the Antique roadshow with this actual portrait. It was an interesting programme as they talked and showed the penny black and looked at the new King Charles stamp. This is the link to the programme. I gave them all the information for the expert to tell me all about it lol x www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001lt2k/antiques-roadshow-royal-treasures |
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Post by Linda on Oct 5, 2023 12:55:41 GMT
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 5, 2023 13:10:21 GMT
What I meant to say I did go on the Antique roadshow with this actual portrait. It was an interesting programme as they talked and showed the penny black and looked at the new King Charles stamp. This is the link to the programme. I gave them all the information for the expert to tell me all about it lol x www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001lt2k/antiques-roadshow-royal-treasuresSadly, BBC iPlayer is only available in the UK. I found the programme on another channel and was impressed as usual with the show. Always loved the Antiques Roadshow. And sarah was a star !! |
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Post by sarah on Oct 6, 2023 19:50:18 GMT
Not a long post tonight. These photographs were taken in the 1930s and 1940s and then used as stamps and covers. The 1937 coronation portrait is unfortunately in the exhibition so I can't show you a close up. You can see the 1937 coronation portrait that is signed and the 2000 stamp on the top shelf. I will take close up pictures when I go up next.  On the engagement of Princess Elizabeth they had many family portraits. These are 2 examples turned into stamp and stamp covers.    Please feel free to rotate the images as they drive me potty. Londonbus1 kindly rotated the last lot. I may not post until next week as taking my children to Cardiff at the weekend. Once back I will start and show the 1952 stamp and portraits which is a very large topic. |
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Post by sarah on Oct 9, 2023 20:05:19 GMT
For my next set of posts I will talk about the Definitive Wilding stamps. I am no expert on the different variations and designs. Please anyone who can add more detail feel free, mine is more a discussion and show of stamps from 1952. The Wilding stamp would remain in use for 15 years.
On November 10th 1952 Queen Elizabeth visited the High Wycombe works of Harrison and Sons limited to witness the production of the first postage stamps of her reign. I have been fortunate to find a brochure of this first visit and special card.
I have sheets of the first 2 stamps as well as a first day cover from December 5th 1952.
The first 2 stamps were designed by Enid Marx and M C Farrar Bell.
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Post by sarah on Oct 9, 2023 20:11:32 GMT
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on Oct 10, 2023 10:16:16 GMT
Congratulations for a great exhibit. You should be proud of it!
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Post by sarah on Oct 15, 2023 9:43:36 GMT
Extra part to the 1952 5th December stamp. The Illustrated London News 6th December 1952 showed the first photograph and article. Took me a long time to find this particular edition.     |
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Post by sarah on Oct 15, 2023 9:51:54 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 15, 2023 9:56:22 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 15, 2023 10:12:48 GMT
This is an example even with all my research I am still finding new things. I found this article in one of the magazines I buy. Find the prices interesting. I was able to buy the stamp book very recently on ebay.      I haven't taken photos of the pages but it is a fascinating album. Found on ebay for £20 in August of this year. |
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Post by sarah on Oct 15, 2023 10:17:18 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 17, 2023 21:08:49 GMT
This was a whistle stop tour of the Wildings. There were many variations of the Wilding stamp with different crowns different markings, different portraits etc at this time. Fingers crossed one day you may get to see the other work which will be in progress. For this particular piece, I will continue.
The next set of stamps has to be the first High Value stamps of Queen Elizabeth's reign, The castle stamps of 1955 by Lynton Lamb
They used the Dorothy Wilding definitive portrait featuring the castles of Carrickfergus, Caernarfon, Edinburgh and Windsor.
The 1955 Castle series had a rebirth when for their fiftieth birthday, they were reissued all together for a miniature sheet.
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Post by sarah on Oct 17, 2023 21:11:22 GMT
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Post by sarah on Oct 17, 2023 21:20:45 GMT
The next GB stamp I believe to have a Dorothy Wilding portrait is HM 60th birthday stamp set. The Wilding stamp is the last stamp on the first set of 3 stamps.   The next item is a postcard from the postal museum issued to coincide with her 60th birthday  The last photograph tonight is a very special cover for HM Queen 60th birthday signed by 5 of her wedding bridesmaids. It is one of my favourite covers.  |
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